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How is the samsung fingerprint tech stored?

Didn't see anything about if it's stored locally or remotely....details please.
 
HTC, LG, Motorola et al are partying like never before tonight. Samsung add a fingerprint scanner, a Band-Aid cover plate, a "turn my phone into a 1960's TV mode," and they expect people to buy this, especially questionable when the S4 failed to meet expectations. This Galaxy looks so cheap; it makes me think they may lower the price by $100. This will NOT sell well. Samsung had this one last opportunity to impress before Apple takes a 1/3 of their customers overnight with larger-screen iPhones, and this is what they did?! Laughable.
 
The guy you are quoting may have given a bit of extreme example but you should get his point. If I was walking on the rain with my umbrella on my hand, I would definitely want to answer my phone.

With the S5 you don't need an ambrella. It's water resistant :p

Wouldn't bet my money on the the fingerprint scanner in the wet though. Seems like it has a hard time to cope in the dry already.
 
Some of the comments are funny. Forget the Gear. The Gear Fit is pretty much what some people here have been "asking" for from Apple and yet they are still complaining. Why? Because it's Samsung. Because Samsung was inspired by Apple's non-existent rumored wearable?

I think you've missed the point entirely. Yes we want something like the Gear Fit, but we want a well thought out and useable version. Look at Samsung's fingerprint implementation and then look at apples. One is useful, the other is a gimmick that, at least from a home screen , it less useful than a 4 digit code. The same is true of the gear fit. It just looks and feel clumsy. We don't want that. We want something that integrated into our lives seamlessly and intuitively.
 
Why has nobody asked where the fingerprint data is being stored? There was such a huge kerfuffle when Apple announced their fingerprint scanner, people freaking out about privacy and the government having access to it (even though Apple made a very large point in the keynote about it having a secure enclave). Now that there's a fingerprint scanner on the world's most insecure mobile OS nobody seems to mind. It's always so one-sided.

From:
http://leaksource.info/2013/12/30/n...early-every-major-software-hardware-firmware/

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“A document viewed by SPIEGEL resembling a product catalog reveals that an NSA division called ANT has burrowed its way into nearly all the security architecture made by the major players in the industry — including American global market leader Cisco and its Chinese competitor Huawei, but also producers of mass-market goods, such as US computer-maker Dell and Apple’s iPhone
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All large intelligence agencies can read your fingerprint data.
 
So Samsung is competing with other Android devices.

It's funny - with regards to sales numbers, when we want to make Android look good we say "Holy cow Android has 80% world marketshare"! But we're talking hundreds of devices versus 1 iPhone line and a smattering of WP8 devices.

We shouldn’t look at this from the viewpoint of the product, but from the viewpoint of the customer where the product is aimed at. Samsung is targeting both Apple AND Android interested customers (See how they mock Apple products) and so does Apple target both customer segments.

In that sense we should view the competitive space as the entire smartphone market, including all players. In that sense Samsung IS competing with Apple and vice versa.
 
I invented finger print scanner before anyone, when I was about 2 years old I put my finger print on a piece of paper and told my parents that they needed this piece of paper to come inside my bedroom. Therefore I did all the hard work for Apple and Samesung is perfect!

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I wasn't aware that 6 months was a long while ago. The 64 bit is too advanced for the current hardware at the moment.

which do you prefer to use, your iPad mini or Note 3? They are about the same size :rolleyes:
 
I invented finger print scanner before anyone, when I was about 2 years old I put my finger print on a piece of paper and told my parents that they needed this piece of paper to come inside my bedroom. Therefore I did all the hard work for Apple and Samesung is perfect!

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which do you prefer to use, your iPad mini or Note 3? They are about the same size :rolleyes:

They are not the mini is significantly bigger. It depends what I'm doing really. I use both on a daily basis. The note 3 is great but it isn't a tablet.

I think we were all a bit over-excited yesterday :D
 
I know people will think I'm just bashing Samsung because I like Apple stuff, but honestly, my first impression of this when I glanced at the photo, was that it looked so '90s. The design, IMHO, is quite disinteresting and blah.
 
I personally really like the look of the Gear Fit and it seems to be doing very well from the early impressions.

I'm a massive Apple fan but after having the Note 3, I really need an iPhone with a bigger screen. It is so strange using my girlfriends iPhone 4 now, it feels like a toy!

The only thing (other than the screen orientation) about the Fit is the name, it might put people off as for me this does everything I want a smart watch to do. I really don't want to take pictures, talk to my strap etc (why I was disappointed with the Gear), I think too many companies are trying to create a small smart phone on your wrist.

One last thing, I see some fellow Apple fans criticizing 2 things, one the Gear 2 has come out too quickly for the people that bought a 1 - I agree, however I was annoyed beyond belief when Apple did the same thing with the iPad. Also I noticed some say about the screen orientation error on the Fit and how could this not been tested. I think we need to mention the mess up on the old iPhone that needed Apple to send out complimentary rubber bumpers just so we could make a call.

It's all very well criticizing, but being both an Apple and a Tech fan I think we should show some respect that Samsung are trying new things.
 
I'm a big fan of apple products (Iphone5, Ipad3, Mac Mini) and how well they work together. Never really looked back or even considered switching to another cellphone since I got the my first Iphone in 2009. That would require an extraordinary difference in features and better design/UI, considering the time and money I've invested in apps.

But I have to say I like what Samsung is doing. "Copying" substitute- and complimentary-product's strengths and improving upon them is expected and should be encouraged. It all works for the benefit of the consumers in terms of price and functionality of the products. I think Samsung is testing the market to see if this demand for wrist-products is real and not just a gimmick, and also what features it "must" have.

Water resistance or any kind of resistance to external environment is a welcomed feature. (Living in cold Norway my iphone sometimes shuts down with 30+% battery, even while making calls. Also I have experienced signal strength has gone down on the iphone 4 and later models compared to earlier models. So packing more features into the phone and loosing attention on that it IS still a phone is not the way to go.) I have not made up my mind if I really want a bigger screen than my current iphone 5.

Apple should take the time to make products that work well and strive for high standards and build quality. If they stick with that philosophy, I will keep buying their products.

But I still hope that these Samsung products push Apple to work fast and hard to get their own Iwatch onto the market. I have given up on their TV initiative which they had such "intense" interest in. I hope the same will not happen to their Iwatch iniative. If they get the right battery capacity, health sensors, communication with Iphone, and a good design, then I'm sold. (I hope their development is not slowed down by putting unnecessary features like a camera into a wrist-product.)
 
Nothing revolutionary: expected incrementals and some catching up features, plus a very arguable design.

Is Samsung losing its mojo?
 
I have understood few things....

1. SamSung is biggest Apple fan.
2. SamSung CEO tries to duplicate himself like Steve Jobs.
3. People from Apple sect see SamSung as inferior/ less Homo sapiens
4. SamSung is live example of how to copy and yet keep it original

I have chosen iPhone 5S to help me drag through digital slavery for next 3 years.
 
@Jimmy76

Agree with your post.

I think the competition is healthy. Personally I will go back to Apple, but the iPhone does need a bigger screen and have the ability to split screen apps (something that I personally think is far more useful than finger print scan).

The Note 3 has an incredible display and I love the screen, not too bothered about the rest of the gimmicks, and I do miss the build quality of the iPhone.

I still think if the Gear Fit had been designed by Apple, people would be going crazy on here. It's pretty much what we have wanted - the screen looks amazing and thankfully it doesn't have a stupid earphone, speaker or camera.

I think it's simple and stylish...
 
looks very nice..now do i get the s5 or the 5s??

Neither. The Galaxy Note series are Samsung's real flag ships, and the Note 4 has not yet been revealed. But according to product history, it's safe to assume that the Note 4 will blow everything out of the water, including Apple's 5S, the forthcoming iPhone 6 and Samsung's own S5.
 
Whatever the Judge says.

You do realise that Apple wasn't the first company to implement a fingerprint scanner in a phone?

Also the fact that the way Apple and Samsung use their scanners is different.

There is diddly squat Apple can sue for as its not their tech.
 
I'm cured!

Jumped to the Galaxy S3, then back to the Iphone, then the Galaxy S4, then back to the Iphone 5S. The Galaxy S5 is a pretty nice phone, and has a lot of good features, like the removable larger battery and micro sd, but I am staying with the Iphone 5S until the Iphone 6 comes out.

I am not a Samsung hater and they did announce that they have sold over 200 million Galaxy phones, so a lot of people like them. For this reason I am happy that because of the competitive threat of Samsung, it will push Apple to go to a larger screen with the Iphone 6.
 
There's a difference between assumptions and straight-up science/facts. It’s hilarious that people are actually believing all the rumors about a larger iPhone 6 screen size without knowing anything about how screen technology / pixel mapping works. For a 4.7” screen

Did you just say that the iPhone3GS -> 4 doubled pixel density so the larger screen on a 6 is not possible because they can't double the density again?

If so then that is flawed logic.

The 3GS -> 4 doubled in density to achieve what Apple called retina display while making it easier to scale images, albeit losing quality

They won't double the density when going to a larger screen, developers will just have to cope with multiple screen sizes.
 
Neither. The Galaxy Note series are Samsung's real flag ships, and the Note 4 has not yet been revealed. But according to product history, it's safe to assume that the Note 4 will blow everything out of the water, including Apple's 5S, the forthcoming iPhone 6 and Samsung's own S5.

Really? I had a Galaxy Note and wasn't particularly impressed. It felt slower than my previous S2. It had a big screen which I liked, yes, and A stylus, which I used four times. Over the last 2 years, I have seen exactly one Note owner, who used the stylus.

And reading through ArsTechnica's review of the Note 3, it seems nothing much has changed.

In terms of performance, the Note 3 is not what I would call "blazing fast." We've run into all sorts of stutters in animation and even outright pauses while testing it. While the hardware is top of the line, Samsung appears to have pushed the software envelope a little too far this time, and it doesn't feel as responsive as other modern Android phones. We've even run into weird error messages like "low memory" warnings when opening GFXBench, despite the 3GB of ram and Android's automatic memory management. While the phone itself sometimes pauses, Samsung isn't helping itself in the "perceived responsiveness" department either, thanks to the way the home button is implemented. You can press it twice to open up S-Voice, which means when you press it once to go Home, it waits for half a beat to make sure you aren't going to press it again to load S-Voice. When the phone temporarily locks up and you frustratedly hit the home button hoping it will wake up and load, every additional home screen press launches some kind of app or feature that isn't the home screen. This probably makes things worse. I've accidentally opened Flipboard (by pressing the home button while on the home screen) so many times I've lost count. Thankfully, if you go into the options of S-Voice and Flipboard, you can turn off the home button integration, which removes the half-second pause.

Don't fall for the benchmarks of the Note series.

They were artificially inflated :p
 
Not only do they unveil a phone on the birthday of their competitor's dead CEO, but they remain blatantly unoriginal and thieving in almost every aspect of their business.

Why should they care about the date? Further, blame the organizers of the Mobile World conference.
 
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The fact that it's actually impossible to install malware on an iPhone unless you jailbreak does in fact make it the most secure mobile operating system, while being able to install what you want with little security to stop you making a mistake on Android does in fact make it the least secure mobile operating system.

Have you seen the latest news article?

Alleged iOS Security Flaw Enables Malicious Apps to Secretly Log User Touch Inputs

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1710512/
 
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