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The way I see it:

- awesome camera (Phase Detect AF won't mean anything to many here, but believe me, it's the holy grail of autofocus - if you've switched from an X-Pro1 to an X-T1, you'll know what I mean)

It may be the holy grail, except when it's not because it depends greatly on the implementation. Samsung already had phase detect hybrid AF in their mirrorless cameras such as the NX300. It's better than their old models but far from great, especially when the light gets low where the hybrid AF often slows things down even.

To be fair to Samsung, they always had a pretty nice camera on the top Galaxys so it'll be a fine shooter. But I'll hold my judgement on the PD AF based on my previous experience with Samsung PD AF.
 
No I agree, we'll see a ton of people jogging outside and in gyms using their 5 inch smartphone for heart rate monitoring..This is what the customers have been really craving..

I doubt it - on these forums you always here how no one sees anything but iPhones out and about ;)
 
id like a water resistent iPhone not gonna lie but i wonder if its covered under warranty? like lets say u stay under water for 31 minutes instead of 29 minutes and it dies and doesnt turn on again or what happens in salt water?

so basically even if you get a water resistent phone you are still scared to actually put it in water because of the "what if" situation unless it is indeed under warranty for water damage

I think you are getting water resistant, confused with waterproof.
 
I like that article you posted. It was a gold phone released AFTER the rumours that Apple was making one - it looks like a flip phone too. As it's Samsung it looks like it was just any crap rushed out to beat Apple ;)

Any other company I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. But that just shows how Samsung have this amazing ability to rush out things based on Apple rumours!



If this is configurable this might be good.

I'd never want my phone to switch to black and white and turn off all features except calls and texts just to get an extra 24 hours when it hits 10%.

When the phone is at 10% I might still want to do some browsing, look up info or send an email.

So if it's fixed at 10% I can see most people turning the feature off, because who wants their phone to turn into a 90's cellphone as soon as 10% is hit?

Much more useful would be if this kicks in at 3% and gives an extra three hours. Once the battery gets that low is when you start to worry about the phone dying. But when the phone is at 10% I still want to be able to use it properly.

There's also the use case where some may want to enable it at 100% for example if they're on a camping trip with no access to power so want to keep the phone alive as long as possible. Particularly with the water resistance people may be keen to take this camping.


Ah, the good old "Samsung copies rumours" rubbish that keeps being thrown around. Samsung have a history going back many many years of making gold coloured phones.

As for the Ultra Battery Saving - Its a setting. You either set it to activate at a certain battery percentage, or you can turn it on manually.
 
It's coincidence. You have no evidence that Samsung would not have offered the Galaxy 5S with a fingerprint sensor in the home button and also would have not selected gold as a standard colour if it weren't for the iPhone 5S. So it's all speculations.

And we will ignore all the people who said that the Galaxy S5 will have a fingerprint sensor and a gold edition as soon as the iPhone 5S was released.

With Samsung everything is coincidence, bordering on precognition. All we have to do is look at their previous releases, that they following what Apple does.
 
With Samsung everything is coincidence, bordering on precognition. All we have to do is look at their previous releases, that they following what Apple does.

Will the same apply in reverse if Apple:

Bring out a larger screen
Make the phone water resistant
Incorporate fitness
Attach privacy folders to the fingerprint scanner

Or does it only work if it appears Samsung is "copying"
 
Will the same apply in reverse if Apple:

Bring out a larger screen
Make the phone water resistant
Incorporate fitness
Attach privacy folders to the fingerprint scanner

Or does it only work if it appears Samsung is "copying"

Quite a different concept. Apple does not primarily rely on one company for their idea's.

They get it from a variety of sources, often old technology not widely used. Then they perfect it enough to be actually useful.
 
Quite a different concept. Apple does not primarily rely on one company for their idea's.

They get it from a variety of sources, often old technology not widely used. Then they perfect it enough to be actually useful.

I wouldnt have expected an answer any different. ;)

If Samsung implement first - They must have heard the rumour Apple was going to do it at some point in the future.

If Samsung implement second - Samsung copying Apple

Basically Samsung can never win against an "irrational" Apple fan
 
If Samsung implement first - They must have heard the rumour Apple was going to do it at some point in the future.

I cannot foresee apple using a heart rate sensor on a phone..

If Samsung implement second - Samsung copying Apple

Copying is too harsh a word and often misused in high-tech..I'd rather say that apple set a particular trend by bringing back biometrics into a device..Thats about it! They apparently also set a trend by having a metal ring around the home button, although at least on the 5s it has a function.
 
I wouldnt have expected an answer any different. ;)

If Samsung implement first - They must have heard the rumour Apple was going to do it at some point in the future.

If Samsung implement second - Samsung copying Apple

Basically Samsung can never win against an "irrational" Apple fan

Probably because you could not come up with a better answer. I suppose the Apple fanboy reply will always work in a pinch.

I'm not saying using ideas past or present from existing technology is bad, but if you have to rely solely to your biggest competitor for your next product line is not really improving anything. Its just matching it.
 
I cannot foresee apple using a heart rate sensor on a phone..

Copying is too harsh a word and often misused in high-tech..I'd rather say that apple set a particular trend by bringing back biometrics into a device..Thats about it! They apparently also set a trend by having a metal ring around the home button, although at least on the 5s it has a function.

You get the jist of my post though.

Personally, I believe when companies incorporate good ideas, whether they have been implemented by another competitor first or not - we all win as consumers.

EG: Apple successfully incorporated a finer print scanner. Samsung has also incorporated a fingerprint scanner and protected folders. Apple should now look at incorporating protected folders..... This is how technology evolves and we all win as consumers. Its just a shame a lot of people that post in threads such as this cant see/understand that logic.

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Probably because you could not come up with a better answer. I suppose the Apple fanboy reply will always work in a pinch.

I'm not saying using ideas past or present from existing technology is bad, but if you have to rely solely on your biggest competitor for your next product line is not really improving anything. Its just matching it.

I couldn't think of a better answer? Sorry, but yours was a typical answer I would expect of any Apple fan.

Please point out where Samsung have relied solely on Apple to create the S5?

Does Apple have any of features that were announced yesterday?

Water resistant
Secure folders
Heart sensor
Fitness applications
Child settings
Advance camera technology
Ultra Battery Saving
4K Recording

People on here seem to ignore all of that.
 
You get the jist of my post though.

Personally, I believe when companies incorporate good ideas, whether they have been implemented by another competitor first or not - we all win as consumers.

EG: Apple successfully incorporated a finer print scanner. Samsung has also incorporated a fingerprint scanner and protected folders. Apple should now look at incorporating protected folders..... This is how technology evolves and we all win as consumers. Its just a shame a lot of people that post in threads such as this cant see/understand that logic.

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I couldn't think of a better answer? Sorry, but yours was a typical answer I would expect of any Apple fan.

Please point out where Samsung have relied solely on Apple to create the S5?

Does Apple have any of features that were announced yesterday?

Water resistant
Secure folders
Heart sensor
Fitness applications
Child settings
Advance camera technology
Ultra Battery Saving
4K Recording

People on here seem to ignore all of that.

Iphone5s users can protect folders iirc using JB ;)
 
Iphone5s users can protect folders iirc using JB ;)

Were not talking about jail-broken or rooted devices though.

Ive said this a few times, you try and have a genuine discussion with some apple fans and they just widen the goalposts each time.
 
Does Apple have any of features that were announced yesterday?

Water resistant
Secure folders
Heart sensor
Fitness applications
Child settings
Advance camera technology
Ultra Battery Saving
4K Recording

People on here seem to ignore all of that.

I do find the heart sensor & 4K recording look interesting. Not sure on how advanced their camera technology is really. Just adding more megapixels is not going to always make the biggest difference. Improvements in the lens system, low light sensitivity and so on are just as important.
 
If I was carrying groceries, getting into my car or had my hands full, I wouldn't answer my phone anyway, fingerprint sensor or not.


Also, I haven't used the 5s, but I imagine, just like the 5 and every other iPhone, you don't have to unlock it to answer the phone.

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;) really, I highly doubt the iWatch will meet the vision I have in my mind. But I'm hopeful we'll see SOMETHING a bit different.



And the fact that Apple hasn't thrown NFC into the iPhone yet gives me hope that we'll instead see it in the iWatch.



I'd much rather flick my wrist at a payment terminal than pull my phone out of my pocket.....because it really isn't any different than pulling my wallet out.


I really doubt that you'll see NFC in any Apple product. They seem do be going in a different direction for mobile payments.
 
I do find the heart sensor & 4K recording look interesting. Not sure on how advanced their camera technology is really. Just adding more megapixels is not going to always make the biggest difference. Improvements in the lens system, low light sensitivity and so on are just as important.

Below is an article that explains it better, but apparently is a first in smartphones.

It has nothing to do with megapixels—instead it's all about that weird-sounding feature called "phase-detect" autofocus, which allows the camera to focus in just .3 seconds. Samsung claims that's the fastest in the world, and it could seriously change how you use the camera.
http://gizmodo.com/the-samsung-galaxy-s5s-killer-camera-feature-speed-1529922377
 
Yes, if I remember correctly, Samsung's announcement, the next day after the 5s was revealed, was that the very next Samsung smart phone would have a 64 bit CPU.

Imagine the extra uproar if they had included a 64bit cpu!

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BTW How many folks actually use your iPhone or android device to check heart rate?

Apart from the Galaxy S5, what other iPhone or Android phone has a heart rate sensor built into it?
 
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