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If they took their time, a couple more months, this wouldn't have happened. They tried to release before iPhone 7 but failed miserably.

The Note 7 was on its normal release schedule. There is no guarantee that extra time (in the "lab" would have revealed this issue). And you could say the same thing about so many OEMs (including Apple). Having an issue is not automatically an indication that something was rushed. But keep on believing that.

There is evidence. Samsung is not going to say that since it will make it even worse, so ...

Oh there's evidence? Where is it? How do you know that it exists? Have you seen it? Do you work for Samsung?
 
The Note 7 was on its normal release schedule. There is no guarantee that extra time (in the "lab" would have revealed this issue). And you could say the same thing about so many OEMs (including Apple). Having an issue is not automatically an indication that something was rushed. But keep on believing that.



Oh there's evidence? Where is it? How do you know that it exists? Have you seen it? Do you work for Samsung?

Do you sleep with samsung? because it feels like it's the case.
 
Do you sleep with samsung? because it feels like it's the case.
Why? Because you're uncomfortable with me calling you out for not having any facts? Is that the best come back you have? Probably better just not to respond.
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Maybe phones exploding?

That is not evidence of a product being rushed. That's evidence of a manufacturing issue. You do realize it's not the same thing, or do you not?
 
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Why? Because you're uncomfortable with me calling you out for not having any facts? Is that the best come back you have? Probably better just not to respond.
Phones are exploding, people got injured, property was damaged. There is a recall. Not enough evidence for you? Unless something gets leaked from samsung that's all you are going to get.

Also phone doesn't perform as it should, other android phones with same specs outperform it. Everything points to rushing the phone out before iPhone 7.
 
Phones are exploding, people got injured, property was damaged. There is a recall. Not enough evidence for you? Unless something gets leaked from samsung that's all you are going to get.

Also phone doesn't perform as it should, other android phones with same specs outperform it. Everything points to rushing the phone out before iPhone 7.

Ok - so we established that you have zero evidence. Got it. Thanks.
 
Pffffft. Apple shares drop more than that on a rumor about supply shortages.

How does it feel, Samsung?
 
I keep seeing posts about this situation being blamed on Samsung trying to beat the iphone release date. Wasn't last year's Galaxy Note 5 launched in the same third week of August as well?
 
Danger Will Robinson, Danger! Samsung Note 7 approaching!

Seriously it's too bad Samsung steped on it's own toes with it's new phones just when it had a chance to put some heat in the market, but in a good way, not as actually is happening.
 
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Now, I agree Apple has its shortcomings with hardware faults with certain things, I.e., The bending of aluminum in 6 Plus, Touch Disease in the 6/6 Plus and yes, I am impartial to Apple, but their far from perfect as well.

That being said, when a manufacturer releases a Phone that has the potential harmful effects to seriously injure someone or something with exploding batteries, it now goes beyond "Yeah, there trying their best though to fix the problem."

There is no cover up possible when a company initiates a world wide recall. It is though, commendable to acknowledge the problem at hand, but again, it will always be a problem until every one of those faulty Note 7's have been accounted for.

I can only imagine the fury Someone like yourself, would endure if your Note 7 imploded in one of your own children's hands. Not good.

Faulty hardware is one category, potential hazard to cause significant harm and to present unknown danger is another, in what a battery can present.
Absolutely, this is serious. They must examine how this happened and ensure it never happens again. They need to talk to everyone no matter how humble and get real insight into what went wrong if it was just a manufacturing error. You never know who has seen what. If there's an engineering and design problem, that needs to be addressed as well.

When I was fresh out of college and working as a bank teller closing down my cash box, I made some goof that could have left my cash box open to theft from another employee. My manager caught it and called me out on it. I didn't make excuses and I didn't get defensive. I acknowledged it was serious and set about examining how I made the mistake I did and wrote a step by step end-of-day lockdown protocol that was disseminated to other branches and adopted as policy. Oddly enough, there had never been one developed nor any standards put into place for end of day closing and lockdown in the entire long history of that bank's existence going back to at least the 1930's. For all I know, the protocol I wrote might be in use to this day. It was that basic and that effective.

I got no credit for it, but I got the satisfaction of knowing at least one aspect of that job would be done securely and nobody else would make a mistake that could cost them their job. I went on to close security gaps for other future employers, making observations and writing analytical reports and suggesting protocols and procedures that were actually heeded and implemented. Doing so was not officially part of my job, but I did it because it was the right thing to do for my employers and coworkers. I credit my employers for being receptive to my efforts. In one case, implementing my suggestions resulted in the discovery and end of a white collar crime.

Samsung and all managers need to encourage and reward employee initiative and oversight and reporting of flaws at any level it takes place. If this experience teaches them to address problems rather than sweep them under a rug before the public finds them, so much the better. They could emerge from this with the ability to build a better reputation. They need to change their ways.

Oh yeah and stop building stuff that's too hot to hold, dammit!
 
Isn't it ironic that the first people to bash Apple for everything they do are also the first people to take up their sword and shield for Samsung? And then they'll complain about people on an Apple forum who like Apple.

Quite chuckleworthy.

I personally don't hate samsung and i don't agree with everything apple does, but people like that make it impossible having a rational discussion.
 
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