No - what I'm saying is that moving a release date up does not equate to lack of quality control. You'd have to also show whether or not they did the same or less amount of QA, right? You'd also have to know the ratio of those batteries found to be defective vs the others that were in the QA process. Was one more rigorous? Did they test the same way they tested previous devices. Lawyer or not - you still need more than speculation. You have to draw harder lines in that connection. And based on what is available - that simply doesn't exist. Do you have the makings to get a court date - I would say yes. Would I say (to day) that it would go to trial. Not convinced. I'm not talking about an injury case. I'm talking a lawsuit specifically targeted at Samsung claiming they are guilty of rushing the QA process and/or the entire phone.
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No - what I'm saying is that moving a release date up does not equate to lack of quality control. You'd have to also show whether or not they did the same or less amount of QA, right? You'd also have to know the ratio of those batteries found to be defective vs the others that were in the QA process. Was one more rigorous? Did they test the same way they tested previous devices. Lawyer or not - you still need more than speculation. You have to draw harder lines in that connection. And based on what is available - that simply doesn't exist. Do you have the makings to get a court date - I would say yes. Would I say (to day) that it would go to trial. Not convinced. I'm not talking about an injury case. I'm talking a lawsuit specifically targeted at Samsung claiming they are guilty of rushing the QA process and/or the entire phone.
. . . and you're continuing to not understand circumstantial evidence. No one is saying that all of this evidence directly shows that Samsung rushed the phone. However, the amount of evidence that exists shows that there is likely a link to rushing the phone and quality control issues. You also don't understand the court system since you think that there must be some irrefutable proof in a civil case. That's just not reality. In reality, a good plaintiff's attorney would have to show some level of rushing to get the product out and some corners cut in quality control. That's where the internal documents would come in.
As stated for the second time. This is all typical. This is exactly what I expected too see as this story has grown. Keep your head in the sand if you wish.
I understand more than you think. Isn't it possible I just don't agree with you in this regard? Because I don't. That doesn't make me ignorant to the rest. We're at an impasse, so let's go our own way and circle back on some other issue/thread. Waste of time to go back and forth
Needless to say, Apple -- behind the scenes -- is working overtime on promoting and hyping this story.
If you think otherwise, you are naive and need to re-read the report on "Apple media control" by Mark Gurman.
If you think otherwise, you are naive and need to re-read the report on "Apple media control" by Mark Gurman.
iPhones are the most popular individual phone model. While other companies may have bigger market share they have a lot more phone models than Apple none of which are anywhere near as popular when taken individually, and that is why problems with iPhones get more news coverage than problems with android phones.
This totally true. Apple has the US government's backing.
Remember, when a judge banned some Apple iPads and iPhones from import due to patent infringement and, in an unprecedented move, the US government quickly overturned this ruling.
Oh well, racism (especially against Asians) and protectionism is alive and well in the USA.
Why?
Apple had burning iPhones in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
But all under-rug-swept by the US media.
You're obviously trolling, thank goodness. For a moment I thought you were being serious!
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TouchéSmall children being burned badly by an exploding phone that has not been issued a mandatory recall... I don't think anyone needs to 'hype' it.
This is really a disaster for Samsung. And also I am so so so sorry for that little kid I hope he will recover soon. I hope that his parents ignored the fact that the device was dangerous if not they are very dangerous parents.
Tsk tsk
Didn't the notice you received from Apple HQ tell you to promote this "happy news" but not publicly show glee?
Can't say it I will miss it at the slightest and I am glad Apple is the type of company that can do that. People get attached to old stuff like doogs when mating, and they are happymove use same old technology for a century, too lazy to move on. ! But I totally agree that Apple needs a strong competitor and I hope this is not gonna hurt Samsung to much.
I can see where your interests are.
I'd bash Apple if they released a phone that had issues like this and didn't pull a mandatory recall. Without being mandatory people are lulled into a sense of security thinking "it wont happen to me".
The sadness here lies with people like you who would promote another corporation at any cost.
Where are your posts "bashing" Apple, then?
For they had burning (or, how it is called when it is Korean company -- "exploding") iPhones in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
Are you too lazy to search through my post history? I've bashed Apple plenty. Just shows you're a worthless troll with nothing better to do than stir the pot here.
Have a good day sir, don't get burned by that Note 7!
Are you too lazy to search through my post history? I've bashed Apple plenty. Just shows you're a worthless troll with nothing better to do than stir the pot here.
Have a good day sir, don't get burned by that Note 7!
Where are your posts "bashing" Apple for burning iPhones, which happened in 2014, 2015, 2016 (and probably happens right now).
And finally, exhibiting insufficient amounts of fanboism is not "trolling".
I have read some of you posts in this thread. You refuse to address the safety concern that faces the Note 7 right now and bring up opinions completely unrelated to the actual thread. This is not an Apple vs. Samsung debate, only to inform that there is a situation and that users should take advantage of the exchange program to make sure they don't run the risk of getting first degree burns on their hands.
If an iPhone had battery issues right now, it would get the same (if not more #bendgate) attention, however we are not talking about the iPhone nor are we comparing specs or features that the Note 7 may have.
with this in mind I feel that you are indeed trolling and as stated in the MacRumors forums:
Trolling. Posts that appear to be designed to cause argument or irritate rather than contribute to a constructive discussion are considered trolling and will be treated as such.
Meaning you will probably continue to get flak from other members because you basically asked for it. However I will not get involved. I am more worried about my friend who bought this phone (under my recommendation) and how it seemed to overheat yesterday.
See, here is the big difference. The only iPhone batteries catching fire (that I could search on) were due to the phone suffering a large impact or the owner using cheap charging accessories. LiPo/LiIon batteries store a tremendous amount of energy, if those are punctured or damaged they tend to have poor responses. If you're trying to say that and the current issue with some Note 7 devices is the same thing, you are very obviously a troll.
If you care to actually find a case where phones burned up because of a defect with the batteries such as what the Note 7 suffers from now, feel free to post those links right here, because I haven't been able to find anything.
I'm waiting
If an iPhone had battery issues right now
You still do not get it (or pretend to do so). iPhones caught fire in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
And Apple's newest -- best! awesome! magical! perfect! -- iPhone 7 will too.
Only difference is, the English speaking media will continue to ignore it.
You still do not get it (or pretend to do so). iPhones caught fire in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
And Apple's newest -- best! awesome! magical! perfect! -- iPhone 7 will too.
Only difference is, the English speaking media will continue to ignore it.
There were no manufacturing issues regarding iPhones catching on fire. You're probably referring to LiIon batteries getting punctured or damaged by bad charging cables. This happens to all phones if you are not careful.
All and all, you didn't read my post.
See, here is the big difference. The only iPhone batteries catching fire (that I could search on) were due to the phone suffering a large impact or the owner using cheap charging accessories. LiPo/LiIon batteries store a tremendous amount of energy, if those are punctured or damaged they tend to have poor responses. If you're trying to say that and the current issue with some Note 7 devices is the same thing, you are very obviously a troll.
If you care to actually find a case where phones burned up because of a defect with the batteries such as what the Note 7 suffers from now, feel free to post those links right here, because I haven't been able to find anything.
I'm waiting
How could I do that?
The only information I (and, presumably, you) have is what is being reported in the media.
All we know is that iPhones keep catching fire since 2014 and that the reports about it get buried/under-rug-swept very quickly.
Did you read the report by Mark Gurman on "Apple media control"?
And no, disagreeing with you does not make one a "troll".
Eesh. I wouldn't wish this kind of result on anybody, even if they did kind of earn it by rushing to release. Here's hoping this doesn't result in any serious injuries or death.
And this is exactly what I expected to get back. It is interesting to me how someone here is going to claim that Apple controls the media about their products when things like "bendgate, antennagate, and the other several gates" were very, VERY widely reported on. I would venture to say those were more widely reported on than the Note 7 battery issue.
However, you're going to believe what you want and that is fine, really is no sweat off my back. If you want to throw out conspiracy theories as you did above, you're not going to garner any respect except those from fellow conspiracy folks. Again, have a good day I am throwing you on the ignore list.