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There were no manufacturing issues regarding iPhones catching on fire.

Says who? Tim Cook?


iPhones burning = user's fault (*)
Samsung phones burning = evil Koreans fault


(*) Although, the US media teaches us that Apple users are smarter, richer, more attractive than lowly Android and Windows users...
 
I still don't see much major news covering this, if it had happened to an iPhone it would be running non-stop in the headlines..
Is it the fast charging or the battery that is the problem?


Good question.

Samsung is the company who spend more money in advertising (even more than Coke). Thats why you don't see the media bashing the company. Would you say bad things about your best client?
 
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Says who? Tim Cook?


iPhones burning = user's fault (*)
Samsung phones burning = evil Koreans fault


(*) Although, the US media teaches us that Apple users are smarter, richer, more attractive than lowly Android and Windows users...
Says basically every article I read on MacRumors, 9to5Mac, 9to5Google, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and everywhere else. This is literally the first time I'm hearing your so-called issue.
In no way I was implying that it's always the user's fault for your made up iPhone explosions. There are many charging cables out there being sold that damage batteries and if in any case the battery was to get punctured either by dropping it or the 1/1,000,000 chance of a manufacturing issue, that would be the likely cause.
Koreans are not evil. Why you were even saying this begs the question on whether you have something against them. I have family friends in Korea. The Note 7 batteries are not even Samsung's fault.
In no way does US media tell anyone that Apple users are these characteristics. This post in general makes no sense. Are you even here in America?
 
Good question.

Samsung is the company who spend more money in advertising (even more than Coke). Thats why you don't see the media bashing the company. Would you say bad things about your best client?

Another commonly repeated, but false, myth.

In the USA, Apple spends more on advertising than Samsung!
http://www.adbrands.net/us/top_us_advertisers.htm

Additionally, Apple has an army of bloggers and websites who are doing free advertising for them.

So, another myth shot down!
 
I can see why Apple likes as much control over their supply chain as possible. These kinds of incidents that come out of left field really tarnish a brands reputation. This is going to cause some changes at samsung for sure.
 
Samsung Note 8. Stylus doubles as fire extinguisher.
iPhone 8. Comes with wireless fire extinguisher
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I think it's silly to get involved with the tech firm rivalries when you don't work for either.

We are consumers of Apple products. Just like many people are consumers of Samsung products. These rivalries are as silly as rivalries by customers of sports entertainment companies (AKA: teams).
 
Samsung Note 8. Stylus doubles as fire extinguisher.
iPhone 8. Comes with wireless fire extinguisher
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I think it's silly to get involved with the tech firm rivalries when you don't work for either.
Sort of like sports teams. Rooting for one over other even though you don't work for them. And the teams are made up of individuals from all over the world,not local talent to that city. Sorta silly like that?

Can't rid ourselves of millions of years of evolution. We are a tribal species. Defend our tribe against all outsiders. Phones are just the latest incarnation of our brain chemistry from brain stem overriding cerebral cortex part. Cars, nationalities, religions, political parties, race, phones, same old same old.
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This is bad news for longtime iPhone fans like myself. Apple need strong competition to keep them on their toes - case in point the iPhone 7 - a design that is at best phoning it in, at worst outright user-hostile. I am still shaking my head about them restricting the double camera to the plus and removing the headphone jack.
What we need is stronger effort on implementing the newer safer coated LI Ion technologies. Spend the money, make them safer and will also increase run time. Look em up, several universities have made breakthroughs. Just need to get into mass production $$$.
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The Note 7 was on its normal release schedule. There is no guarantee that extra time (in the "lab" would have revealed this issue). And you could say the same thing about so many OEMs (including Apple). Having an issue is not automatically an indication that something was rushed. But keep on believing that.



Oh there's evidence? Where is it? How do you know that it exists? Have you seen it? Do you work for Samsung?
And here weeeee gooooo.
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The pro-Apple media is at it again. Or rather anti-Samsung. I made my mother ditch the stupid iPhone for a Note and I told her not to worry and just use her phone. Apple has way more problems with their inferior iPhone. Every year it's something. Yellow screens, bending, antenna, faulty buttons, touch disease. Apple's legendary design is a myth. As is their "custom" chip design. Inferior to my superior Samsung chip. Enjoy your dumb 3D Touch, iPhone users. I'll enjoy genuine features of my Galaxy.

This Note situation is really just racism against Koreans.
What? Racism? Oh I get it the yellowing screens........In other news today four people were injured, thankfully only mentally, when their phone screens turned yellow. Manufacturers are sending out blue tinted glasses to rectify the over yellow. Meanwhile in Asian markets phone sales took a dive as consumers said their screens were too white.
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I don't think that's necc true either. Things can get by QA even when done properly.
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No.. it's not. There's no evidence anything was rushed. There is evidence that there was an issue with production. ONE possibly reason COULD be that it was rushed. But having an issue is not evidence of something being rushed.
If you don't think Samsung, Apple and all other manufacturers don't push their suppliers and the suppliers push the sub suppliers to rush, well you must never have worked in a manufacturing just in time environment. Sorry Samsung you will have delay releasing your new phone because our part did not meet all safety concerns. No way Jose, just sign the certification and ship those parts.
 
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If you don't know think Samsung, Apple and all other manufacturers don't push their suppliers and the suppliers push the sub suppliers to rush, well you must never have worked in a manufacturing just in time environment.

Hmm - then it sounds like this is status quo... so how would this make Samsung any more or less "guilty" of rushing QA. Regardless, I stick to my opinion that currently it is not fact that they rushed anything - not internally or to "beat" the iPhone 7. But we can each believe what we want.
 
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Who needs a headphone jack??
Man admitted to hospital today moaning about head phone jacks. Investigators believe the over polluting Audi diesel he was driving crashed when the Samsung phone exploded in his hands as he was fiddling with it trying to insert head phone jack while distracted driving. The Takata air bag over exploded upon crashing driving the burning Samsun Note 7 into his skull. Surgeons feel they have a good chance of saving him once they remove the burned phone and air bag shrapenl from his brain.
 
Needless to say, Apple -- behind the scenes -- is working overtime on promoting and hyping this story.

If you think otherwise, you are naive and need to re-read the report on "Apple media control" by Mark Gurman.
Exactly, but I also bet Apple is double and triple checking all of their batteries before shipping right now, as is every other manufacturer out there.
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Small children being burned badly by an exploding phone that has not been issued a mandatory recall... I don't think anyone needs to 'hype' it.
You do remember this story, right?
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/French-Teenager-iPhone-shatter-explode,news-4435.html

Or this one:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/13/exploding-iphone-5-allegedly-injures-chinese-womans-eye/

No? how about this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ned-exploding-iphone-lawyer-article-1.2131869

Or this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iphone-explodes-8th-grader-back-pocket-article-1.1599058

There are many others out there as well. Is it sad that it happens? Absolutely, but is this a problem that is exclusive to Samsung? Absolutely not, the fact is we are cramming more and more power into smaller and smaller places and it is actually amazing that this doesn't happen more often.
 
I am trying to speculate what the "unfortunate accident" is which will happen to Spotify and its users soon...
I bet its some kind of "hack" with credit-card info being leaked.
 
Exactly, but I also bet Apple is double and triple checking all of their batteries before shipping right now, as is every other manufacturer out there.
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You do remember this story, right?
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/French-Teenager-iPhone-shatter-explode,news-4435.html

Or this one:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/13/exploding-iphone-5-allegedly-injures-chinese-womans-eye/

No? how about this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ned-exploding-iphone-lawyer-article-1.2131869

Or this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iphone-explodes-8th-grader-back-pocket-article-1.1599058

There are many others out there as well. Is it sad that it happens? Absolutely, but is this a problem that is exclusive to Samsung? Absolutely not, the fact is we are cramming more and more power into smaller and smaller places and it is actually amazing that this doesn't happen more often.

Your point being? We all know damage to LiIon or LiPo cells causes them to do rather nasty things. If that is the same in your eyes to an issue with quality control resulting in a defect, I really am not sure what to say. Sure, the result is the same (people get burned) but the place to lay the blame is in a very different place.

I'm really at a loss for many of you, the world in your eyes must be a very interesting place being in capable of sorting things like this out.

Edit : If you can differentiate between these incidents I would suggest calling your local consumer protection office to file a complaint about it. I am sure they can explain the difference.
 
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Edit : If you can differentiate between these incidents I would suggest calling your local consumer protection office to file a complaint about it. I am sure they can explain the difference.

The only difference is that one is a US company under the protection of the US government, and the other one is one of Apple's last remaining non-US competitors. Not hard to see what is going on. Thus the involvement of the FAA.

Spotify is next!!
 
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The only difference is that one is a US company under the protection of the US government, and the other one is one of Apple's last remaining non-US competitors. Not hard to see what is going on. Thus the involvement of the FAA.

Spotify is next!!
You obviously didn't read his post either...

Ignore list spot achieved since I'm nice enough not to report you.
 
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Exactly, but I also bet Apple is double and triple checking all of their batteries before shipping right now, as is every other manufacturer out there.
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You do remember this story, right?
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/French-Teenager-iPhone-shatter-explode,news-4435.html

Or this one:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/13/exploding-iphone-5-allegedly-injures-chinese-womans-eye/

No? how about this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ned-exploding-iphone-lawyer-article-1.2131869

Or this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iphone-explodes-8th-grader-back-pocket-article-1.1599058

There are many others out there as well. Is it sad that it happens? Absolutely, but is this a problem that is exclusive to Samsung? Absolutely not, the fact is we are cramming more and more power into smaller and smaller places and it is actually amazing that this doesn't happen more often.

Meaningless. All companies have the occasional battery fire. Apple and Samsung included.

The Note 7 is several orders of magnitude worse than the iPhone or any other smartphone. That's why this is a serious issue for Samsung. Let me know when you can link to 20,000 articles of iPhones catching fire. Because that's how many you'd have to find to be comparable to the Note 7.


BTW, there's now been 70 incidents in the US of Note 7 fires. Now who keeps yapping there's only been 35, as if they stopped exploding on Sept 1st?
 
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Waterproof but not fireproof it seems. Maybe that's a feature they could add to next years model.

That's pretty funny, and actually a good idea!

And people that are saying that it's not Samsung's fault but the battery manufacturers are complete idiots, it's clear that Samsung wanted to outsell the iPhone and rushed the manufacturing -

That's not clear at all. As has been pointed out, at the rate it's being seen, it would've been unlikely for even a long test period with a thousand units to run across the problem.


Incorrect. You're talking about the wrong phone, for one thing.

That report says that while the AT&T S7 Active failed their test (Samsung has found and fixed the problem at the assembly factory), the regular S7 and S7 Edge passed all the water tests.

In any case, it has nothing to do with the NOTE 7, which is a different phone made on a different assembly line.
 
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Meaningless. All companies have the occasional battery fire. Apple and Samsung included.

The Note 7 is several orders of magnitude worse than the iPhone or any other smartphone. That's why this is a serious issue for Samsung. Let me know when you can link to 20,000 articles of iPhones catching fire. Because that's how many you'd have to find to be comparable to the Note 7.


BTW, there's now been 70 incidents in the US of Note 7 fires. Now who keeps yapping there's only been 35, as if they stopped exploding on Sept 1st?

"20,000 articles"... and they keep saying Apple media control is not real...

"70 incidents" in the US. So? How many of these are even real? How many of them are deliberately caused by Apple fanatics and/or US/Chinese nationalists?

Interesting to note how the US media writes about "fires" in the case of Apple, but in case of Samsung they write "explosions".
 
"20,000 articles"... and they keep saying Apple media control is not real...

"70 incidents" in the US. So? How many of these are even real? How many of them are deliberately caused by Apple fanatics and/or US/Chinese nationalists?

Interesting to note how the US media writes about "fires" in the case of Apple, but in case of Samsung they write "explosions".

Welcome to the ignore list.
 
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"20,000 articles"... and they keep saying Apple media control is not real...

"70 incidents" in the US. So? How many of these are even real? How many of them are deliberately caused by Apple fanatics and/or US/Chinese nationalists?

Interesting to note how the US media writes about "fires" in the case of Apple, but in case of Samsung they write "explosions".
Not from what Ive seen. The reason Samsung is being treated differently in this case is the number within such a short peroid of time. Plus you cant compare 70 out of hundreds of millions of devices compared to 35 out of 1.4million devices that made it into peoples hands
 
Yup. If it were Apple, everyone would be mitigating this "issue." But it's Samsung, a Korean company that makes superior designed products than Apple's multicultural crap, so people are blowing this out of proportion.

This isn't an issue. It's only a small percentage affected of the vast millions of the incredible Note 7 sold. iPhones have greater failure rates but the commentariat is silent.

Apple creates 3D Touch, a useless feature that allows an extra dimension of UI interactivity, and everyone goes crazy. Samsung creates genuine features like Smart Scroll and no one cares. Bias, pure and simple.

I think you're in denial or are just oblivious to what is happening in the world.

Let me see if I have this correct...

You're attempting to minimize the fact that Samsung recalled 2.5 million Galaxy Note 7 phones that have destroyed property and injured people, while at the same time trying to somehow shine a negative light on Apple for creating, what you are saying, is an "inferior" phone? Tell the child that was injured from the Note 7 how "incredible" the phone is. Or to the family displaced from their home because the Note 7 exploded and burned down their garage.

Please elaborate on how this is blown out of proportion?
 
Even if they fix the very serious issue, it would be completely imbecilic to bring the Note 7 back onto the market. The public perception of the phone is abysmal, and that won't change. Carriers are better off not having this almost literal bomb in their store catalog.

I doubt the public cares. If you are an android user, just get a replacement.

The ones that care the most are apple fans making fun out of it.

You realize the effected units are no longer being shipped? and the replacements are fixed ?

FYI the public got over antennagate jsut fine, and that flaw was never fixed.
 
All you folks reveling in schadenfreude over this are in serious need of a slap in the face. This is a matter of potentially tragic personal injury and property damage. Snap out of it and grow up.
 
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FAA paranoia stuff. Nobody is perfect. Defects happen especially when you are producing millions with people who are imperfect. S**t happens. When 9-11 happened, did it stop people from using American Airlines and United because they were afraid of terrorists? Do people never go back eating meat or go to a fast food chain during a Ecoli outbreak? If a Catholic priest molests a child, does that mean every Catholic priest does it?

Until it personally happens to me is when starts to matter. Less than 40 incidents now represents the majority of the 1M owners? This isn't even a generalization. This isn't as bad as the Xbox 360 red ring of death which was faulty from the start. Yet, Microsoft didn't do a damn thing to recall them. This is probably less common than iPhone 5 Scuffgate or iPhone 6 Bendgate or Touch Disease.

It's cool though. It ticked me off at first and ranted about Samsung's QC but all I will do is turn it off, put in my backpack, and not use it for 16 hrs and another 1.5 hr roundtrip to Vegas. Wanted to use Gear VR because movies on planes are censored. Like what I said going caseless with a jet black iPhone 7. Shrug it off! I got four other phones to use, so I am cool. If it was an iPhone 7, I wouldn't be able to use my 3.5mm headphones though.

Nobody is perfect. Nothing is perfect. Some -gate issue will happen to iPhone 7 after a few weeks especially with people looking for a problem and then they will post it on YouTube and whine about it online that it isn't perfect. Media will feed on it. Man up. All of this is just temporary. But some people act that they will take these possessions with them after they die or these phones will work forever with an eternal working display, battery, speaker, etc.

If my Note7 blows up on me, buy another one or get S7 edge. If Samsung phones keep blowing up, then buy LG V20. If not V20, maybe Mi 5. There are a bunch of alternatives. Apple or Samsung are not the only phone brands. Stay persistent though. Don't run from problems. Figure it out. It isn't like every Note7 is infecting all people who touch it with AIDS, leprosy, or has "Touch Disease."
 
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