Samsung Shows Off Prototype Smartphone With Foldable Display

[bbednarz]

Do you have a problem with me having a comment on almost every page. If not, what is your point.

You do you... But don't tell other posters to get a life without looking internally first. You sound much more like a Samsung/Android spokesperson than many here sound like an Apple employee.

 

[tromboneaholic]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the screen brightness (or lack of it). I believe that may be why they dimmed the lights, not to hide the hardware.

I don't understand why 'folding' is suddenly a bad idea for stuff we want to put in our pockets.

It will probably need a plastic screen on the folding side, so not a great surface.

 

[chasonstone]

I understand that it's purposely obscured with a case. But my issue isn't the blockiness/thickness (I'll reserve that for seeing an actual product) but rather the screen on the front seems small... and leaves alot of not screen above it.

 

[scubachap]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the screen brightness (or lack of it). I believe that may be why they dimmed the lights, not to hide the hardware.


It will probably need a plastic screen on the folding side, so not a great surface.

I hear what you're saying but taking a step back I've never thought smooth, shiny slabs of glass and metal have felt particularly pleasant (cold and slippery) - we're just used to them now. Anyways - we'll see.

 

[tromboneaholic]

I hear what you're saying but taking a step back I've never thought smooth, shiny slabs of glass and metal have felt particularly pleasant (cold and slippery) - we're just used to them now. Anyways - we'll see.

Plastic tends to scratch more easily, but not shatter. At the last minute, the original iPhone screen was changed to glass because it was scratching too easily.

 

[Burger Thing]

As useless as their devices with rounded infinity displays. It can be done. But why?

 

[chronos1919]

I’m not convinced the technology is as ready for mass adoption as Samsung seems to be claiming. I’m sure this comes with a ton of caveats and compromises. Still, I’m curious to see the final product.

 

[Dragonlord_66]

and thats it.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Oh well it won’t be long until we hear that Samsung rushed it to the market to beat Apple to the punch.

 

[1050792]

Ummm.... because it is 5x more expensive.
Are you trying to say that you believe the Note series is 5x more expensive than other Android flagships??
*confused*

Don't tell me you don't check the prices?

 

[1050792]

1. Ferrari has intentionally limited production to 7000 cars per year in order to make their brand more exclusive. Toyota makes over 10 million per year. [edit: they are making a little more than 8000 this year.]
2. The average Toyota costs $33,000 while the average Ferrari sells for $315,000 (not factoring in their super-cars (like the Pininfarina Sergio) which go for $3 million.
3. Ferrari makes a range of specialty cars all designed for people who enjoy driving and are willing to put comfort and utility as low priorities. Toyota focuses on building a variety of functional vehicles including cars, vans, and trucks.
4. The average Toyota owner owns 1 to 2 cars. The average Ferrari owner has 5 or more cars. (65% of Ferrari owners have more than one Ferrari.)
5. Ferrari is owned 23% by Exor (who owns Fiat Chrysler) while Toyota is the parent company of itself. This means there is more pressure on Toyota to sell more cars at the expense of quality, while Ferrari's investors encourage low volume high value sales to avoid competing with its other brands.

Ferrari and Toyota make different products targeted at different consumers and run their organizations with very different business plans. Ferrari makes an estimated $80,000 per car while Toyota averages less than $3000 per car. Toyota' market cap is 171 billion to Ferrari's 11 billion.

For the record, these companies are leaders for their target demographic. For example, GM makes less than $700 per car across their less than 8 million cars produced annually. (And yes, these are averages across their entire fleet - I am not trying to say that they only make $700 on every car.) Lamborghini, which might be the closest comparison to Ferrari (despite being a division of VW) only sells a little over 2000 cars a year and only averages about $5200 per car.

Anyhoo... that's my explanation as to why Ferrari doesn't sell as well as Toyota.



You answered faster than me, but you underestimated your very valid point. Ferrari is about 10x more expensive on average. Still, your insight was going in the right direction.

You made a huge wall of text comparing car brands when you know that was not even my main point.
Here's your simple answer:
"Ferrari and Toyota make different products targeted at different consumers and run their organizations with very different business plans."
Galaxy Note series is a product targeted at different consumers and run their own complimentary software to meet the needs of those who take use of it.

 

[Baymowe335]

So you can defend their incompetence to the hilt once more?

Or just not overreact to a tiny issue still within their own guidance?
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Why doesn’t Ferrari sell better than Toyota?

Well, the top Samsung phones are in a similar price range to Apple, so not really sure I follow your example of a 10X more expensive car.

 

[harrisondavies]

Cars are not investments, Apple is.

The BMW is just for fun and I do floor it every day, so I do use it enough.

Check this out: Samsung was already beaten and does it really look like something you’d want to use? Honestly, I have an open mind here, but Samsung needs to do like WAY better than this. If it’s anything like this, total fail.

I I think Samsung will say but that’s not really a fold that’s a bend is probably what they’re thinking. From Samsons demo I got the impression that it was almost a proper fold as if folding a piece of paper some shall see.
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Many here just hate anything that apple products don't have.

My problem with the statement is that Apple will not release any products that are less than perfect, yes they make mistakes, but they’re not gonna release it until it’s perfect so why complain. do you wanna perfect product or do you want a half baked product?

 

[DNichter]

Cool screen tech, but that's all it is. Once the technology advances to the point of it actually being a compelling product, I'd assume Apple may take it seriously. At that point, Samsung will be happy to sell their biggest customer the best screen possible and Apple will come out with an innovative product, building on the chunkiness the first round is sure to bring. Samsung and Huawei can battle this one out for a couple years.

 

[harrisondavies]

No it's not that, Apple simply can't develop a foldable screen phone before Samsung no matter how much they try.
Samsung is in a unique position of being able to design, develop and manufacture the best mobile screens on the market. They've been working on this longer than any of their competitors(including Apple). This is why they are the first to launch a viable folding screen device.

Second.

 

[rjohnstone]

I’m not convinced the technology is as ready for mass adoption as Samsung seems to be claiming. I’m sure this comes with a ton of caveats and compromises. Still, I’m curious to see the final product.

They said it was ready for "mass production" not mass adoption.
Adoption will depend on the quality and durability of the final product.

 

[harrisondavies]

Such a weak trolling attempt.

I’m no troll. I was asked for proof and there it is. In black and white.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Samsung makes the technology for testing, and Apple perfects it. Thats how its always been. Apple makes the things that the average person wants to use, and Samsung, Microsoft, etc make the ideas. Apple just makes them user friendly.

 

[harrisondavies]

As a Samsung Galaxy S9+ owner and a Galaxy S8+ owner before that, I would much rather see Samsung focus on bringing their software update process on par with Apple instead of focusing on a folding smartphone.

I know several have commented that Apple will adopt this in several years and be considered “innovative”, but the truth is the future belongs to eliminating the need for a display, not folding it in half.

Bravo.

 

[Sevanw]

It's a brick.

No you're mistaking it for the millions of Apple watches that got bricked from an update.

 

[rjohnstone]

Samsung makes the technology for testing, and Apple perfects it. Thats how its always been. Apple makes the things that the average person wants to use, and Samsung, Microsoft, etc make the ideas. Apple just makes them user friendly.

How did Apple make AMOLED panels better? I'll give you a little help here... they didn't.
Samsung AMOLED panels have been the best in the industry for years. They set the benchmark by which all others hope to achieve.

 

[4jasontv]

You made a huge wall of text comparing car brands when you know that was not even my main point.
Here's your simple answer:
"Ferrari and Toyota make different products targeted at different consumers and run their organizations with very different business plans."
Galaxy Note series is a product targeted at different consumers and run their own complimentary software to meet the needs of those who take use of it.

No. I made a list to answer your question "Why doesn’t Ferrari sell better than Toyota?" There is no other text in your post. I like cars and you asked a car question.

 

[iReality85]

That’s not what it looks like. It was disguised inside a case. They said it was their thinnest screen to date.

That's a meaningless statement by them, since screen thinness does not equal phone thinness. I'm talking about the phone's physical thickness.

If it's twice as thick when closed compared to the thickness of current phones, then I don't think very many people are going to be buying it.

 

[iZac]

for such a potentially innovative form factor, they sure did an abysmal job in presenting it.

You know what's fantastic about this though? The device doesn't seem very wide. I'd happily use this in closed mode all day long.

 

[chronos1919]

They said it was ready for "mass production" not mass adoption.
Adoption will depend on the quality and durability of the final product.

Obviously.