As a conglomerate, I don’t think the head of Samsung’s mobile division can use that as an excuse for declining sales. Imagine telling your boss that you sold fewer phones, but it’s fine because another unrelated division sold more components to your greatest competitor. That’s good for him, but a disaster for you.
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As a conglomerate, I don’t think the head of Samsung’s mobile division can use that as an excuse for declining sales. Imagine telling your boss that you sold fewer phones, but it’s fine because another unrelated division sold more components to your greatest competitor. That’s good for him, but a disaster for you.
Didn’t know their sales were going down, although it explains the several deals on their phones I see everywhere.
Think he just meant relevancy in the smartphone industry, they’ll never go out of business as whole, heck I bought a Samsung microwave a couple weeks ago.
Samsung has to change to compete with premium lower priced Chinese phones. That's why the F.
Apple can rest on laurels and treats their buyers like sheeps thinking that all sheeps will happily pay for over priced under specced phones forever. Apple will most probably implodes faster than Samsung in this aspect.
What I have gathered is that sales of their higher end devices has been declining year after year, while their low and mid end devices are facing pressure from Chinese OEMs in developing countries.
https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...e-winning-in-shipments-but-losing-in-business
So Samsung phones are being squeezed on both ends by Apple and Chinese companies.
And that’s precisely the thinking which leads critics to keep getting Apple wrong time and time again.
I still remember how pundits were predicting in 2013 that the iPhone would be commoditised by Samsung phones which were cheaper and sported better specs on paper. In hindsight, that grim future never materialised and to add insult to injury, Samsung appears to be suffering the very same fate it was supposed to inflict on Apple.
All this crap talk of “Clayden’s theory of disruption” simply failed to apply to Apple. The critics haven’t even shown the faintest iota of understanding of to why Apple grew and how it grew to be as large and successful as it is today, and they expect me to now believe that they know why Apple will fail now?
If my eyes could roll into the back of my head, they would.
Apple doesn’t manufacture anything, smart guy. That doesn’t stop them from prototyping and developing stuff—some of it with partners. Stuff that those partners wouldn’t have done on their own. That’s literally how business works.
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Wow, that’s a really important narrative for you, isn’t it? No matter how many times you repeat it, it won’t make it true.
If Apple is developing something privately and chooses to release it later that Samsung, when it’s actually technically viable, it does not equal “copying”. It equals “smart” and “disciplined”.
Anything is possible in tech industry. What happened before bears no relevant for the future. Now we are seeing many more premium phones from many manufacturers when there were just Samsung and apple before.
I disagree. Your theory is actually the opposite of Apple’s corporate philosophy . Anyone who paid attention to what Steve Jobs said, and did, knows that “disrupting yourself” is it important part of Apple’s DNA. The iPhone cannibalized the iPod, And the iPad cannibalized MacBook sales. It’s a convenient narrative to believe that everything Apple does is based on milking their users, but it doesn’t reflect reality. They have the highest user satisfaction in modern business, and the greatest list of product innovations in the last century.
Perhaps they just don’t release new products until they’re ready, or until they feel they can transform an industry.
No, it's an important narrative for Apple. They claimed they invented multi-touch when they didn't. They steal ideas, buy out smaller companies, claim everything as their own when they do next to nothing other than perfect GUI (which they do very well).
Nice technology. Now see what devices Apple can use it for that actually make practical benefits.
I saw the video. The thing is thick now, and it’s gonna be fairly thick when it comes out. They are hiding the aesthetics, not masking the size. If they somehow did manage to make it “really thin”, no one else is going to be able to copy that just by looking at it. I would be very surprised if this device is not about as thick as 2 1/2 smartphones. It’s physics.
It will be a brutal phone experience, and a slightly convenient “micro tablet” that is significantly smaller than the smallest tablets on the market. Which also happen to be the worst selling, least in-demand tablets on the market. This product is going to be a real money loser for them.
The folding form factor will only really be useful at a lager scale (imagine a 13” iPad Pro that folds down to the size of a mini, or a device that’s the size of at 13” iPad when folded, and opens to become a huge work surface that’s twice as big) or once it’s thin enough to fold out 3-4 times from its “phone” size to create something that’s a better phone experience and a lager jump up in size when it becomes a tablet.
You look but you are not seeing.
Why is smaller ipad not selling? Simple. Because it is not portable/pocketable. If you are going to use it on your couch anyway, why not just get a bigger screen.
But the Galaxy F is a portable "tablet". A 7.4in 4:3 ratio screen is much bigger than a 7.4in phablet 19.5:9 ratio. This makes many use cases that are not so ideal/convenient to do on a phablet (e.g. watching video, multi-windows, web-based applications, editing and drawing) become much better. This opens up a lot possibilities since we never had a truly portable and pocketable tablet before
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You really think that’s clever, don’t you? A real gotcha!
Apple was extremely vague about the Mac Pro, and didn’t promise that we would see anything in 2018, so your Mac Pro comment is simple not a valid point. If you have been paying attention at all to what’s been going on with Apple lately, you would know that that announcement was made because they realized that they had made some design mistakes with the old Mac Pro, and wanted to reassure pro users that they were not being forgotten. It was a very rare moved buy them, but extremely welcomed. And, as promised, they have released a number of great pro products to satisfy 75% of what pro users needed in the meantime (iMac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac mini pro).
As far as the charging pad, it’s clear to anyone who reads this site that they have encountered an unforeseen heat problem, and they’re not releasing the product until they get it right. It’s a mistake. Even the best companies make them.
Are you suggesting that this mistake is representative of Apple’s corporate philosophy on how to strategically introduce products, or that this is a one-off exception because of a technical issue?
Yeah, didn’t think do.
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This is going to be a bulky phone and a tiny tablet. And a square screen will have a negligible impact on the size of video images. I stand by my projection that this will be in awkward product that is not ready for prime time and will not have a significant enough market or use cases to turn a profit.You look but you are not seeing.
Why is smaller ipad not selling? Simple. Because it is not portable/pocketable. If you are going to use it on your couch anyway, why not just get a bigger screen.
But the Galaxy F is a portable "tablet". A 7.4in 4:3 ratio screen is much bigger than a 7.4in phablet 19.5:9 ratio. This makes many use cases that are not so ideal/convenient to do on a phablet (e.g. watching video, multi-windows, web-based applications, editing and drawing) become much better. This opens up a lot possibilities since we never had a portable tablet before
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Really? Interesting. Please find the quote where Apple claims to have “invented” multi-touch, rather than simply being the innovators who made it practical on a tiny screen and the first to bring it to market. Please. Find these outrageous claims they’ve made and paste them below. I’m waiting...
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It’s just being observant, Smiley.This sounds like puffing smoke up Apple's behind.
Give it a rest. Go spew your Apple hatred elsewhere. And insulting people to start your message does not help make your case. I'd respond with an actual counter-argument, if I thought you were someone actually worth discussing with.
Skip to 7:04, Jobs CLEARLY says 'We have invented multitouch'
Don't tell me this is the first time you're seeing this.
It's raining outside. I suspect it's Steve Jobs tears from heaven watching what the fans of his innovations have become; dull, conservative, bullying, closed minded individuals, lacking in imagination, uninterested in new technology and all too often measure Apples success by the quarterly reports, not by being the leader of innovation.
Nope.
Here’s the slide of just the screen from later in their presentation.
By FAR the absolutely hugest top & bottom bezels we’ve ever seen on a mobile device so far.
Makes sense as the main screen, the one that matters, is inside. The small one is only there for quick interactions, like quick responses to messages, caller ID, selfies, etc.
I have no doubt that there will be a bunch of these Samsung foldable phones at Cupertino as soon as they become available. They’ll be the “grandfather” of the iPhone 12 (being optimistic) or 13 (being realistic).
That's true.
So are you supposed to unfold the phone for anything that requires more than a quick glance? That will surely get annoying quickly.
Right now I can use my traditional slab phone for everything... without constantly opening and closing it.
The big concern is that the outside screen is 4.6" but with 21:9 aspect ratio. It's SKINNY. It's even narrower than an iPhone SE.
That would make the keyboard very narrow with very tiny keys.
But the alternative is to open it up into something TWICE the width of a Galaxy S9.
I understand the idea, though. You've got a screen on the outside for quick stuff... and then a bigger screen on the inside for everything else.
I'm just afraid that the "everything else" will end up being 95% of your daily use. You'll really be testing the durability of that bendy screen... open, close, open, close...