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iPad for Apple Pay? Lol.
Why not?
Imagine holding a 12.9" in store.
Imagine directions reversed where the included NFC electronics are set up for receiving electronic payments. For people that do business on the go this would be ideal. Say you are an electrician and just removed some woman's shorts, you could receive your payment through Apple Pay. Hell it would work for freelance programmers, vets, plumbers, landscapers even the kid running the lemonade stand down the street.
Apple should announce iPad at the same time as iPhone, main difference is screen size / cellular chip, and not much differentiation between the 2.
Actually this in one sense might seem reasonable but you need to remember these launches are very demanding on Apples employees. As such they need to be spread out simply to allow people to manage the stress. Then you have the problem of available transportation through the various shipping channels, so while it might be good for us I don't think it is a possibility for Apple.
 
Gospel? I don't know about that, however DigiTimes has been the source of news on here for quite some time. There are some references starting back in 2006, and 2007, back on the mostly Page2 of Macrumors News of that time.

Used to be that most DigiTimes references (say around 2011-2012) were marked with "this source has proven very unreliable in the past, so take this with a hefty dose of salt" or something similar. They stopped doing that rather recently.
 
Samsung already makes a 12" tablet. :)

Shhhhhh, you are not supposed to bring facts into this forum.

Of course, you will have it pointed out to you also that Samsung only make a 12" tablet as they used their evil magical crystal ball powers to see into the future, and copy a product Apple has not made yet. :D
 
Some of us don't need it to run OSX. It would be nice but it wouldn't a "must". I am professional musician. It would be great to have a screen the size of A4 paper. The iPad screen size is almost too small. That's the main purpose of my iPad. If I couldn't read music with it, I would have never bought an iPad.
If it has OSX, it would be even better. If not, I imagine many people will find it useful for so many other things anyway.

I can see both sides of the fence here and in the end would rather see iPads remain iOS devices only. For people that need a more powerful OS I'd rather see Apple deliver an ARM based laptop that can also run iPad apps. An ARM based laptop with these capabilities should be easy for Apple to deliver. The only real problem being processor power and that can be dealt with by enhancing the current A series chips so that they can better support Mac OS.

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Apple is not going to make a 12" MacBook and 12" iPad. It will be either, and my guess is the MacBook.
I see many possibilities and as such wouldn't completely dismiss any of them!
Btw, I don't get a comment that iOS is a crippled OS for a device like iPad... What is not working, what is crippled?

IOS isn't crippled per say but it doesn't provide all the features needed to become a complete laptop replacement. There does seem to be a contingent out there that would like to ruin iOS's good points by turning it into Mac OS. Those people can continue to dream. Personally I think the best avenue for Apple to deal with the needs of more demanding users is a machine that runs Mac OS but yet can also run iPad apps in a Window(s).

In any event the people that can't see the value in a larger iPad just don't have any imagination.

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Can someone make sense of why Apple would want their competitor to manufacture their displays when it's like an open invitation to corporate espionage?

Because it isn't an open invitation. Samsungs display division has products that it sells and frankly Apple could be inquiring about screens for a laptop. Samsung doesn't need to know what Apples intentions are for the display just like Intel didn't know why Apple needed the special low power chips for the first Air's.

Beyond that the divisions at Samsung aren't as tightly coupled as people here seem to think.
 
Shhhhhh, you are not supposed to bring facts into this forum.

Of course, you will have it pointed out to you also that Samsung only make a 12" tablet as they used their evil magical crystal ball powers to see into the future, and copy a product Apple has not made yet. :D

Just as they have made 3 versions of the Gear watch before Apple announced theirs, but Samsung copied them? :eek: :D:D
 
Yep zero imagination! I can see Apple producing a whole series of hardware optimized for point of sale usage and do so by teaming up with the various software vendors out there. Of course the reality is the NFC hardware is so cheap that they could easily wrap it into all iPad devices but it might make sense to have some hardware optimized for this usage. Optimization a might include barcode reader interfaces (USB ports), interfaces for cash drawers and the like. All of this to provide low cost solutions for small businesses.

My god people lack vision. It could be used at retailers/small businesses as a point of sale interface so instead of an iPad with a square reader or something, it's ipad with apple pay nfc accepting payments
 
iPad Pro. I don't get it... What's the advantage of having more screen real estate on an iPad? A laptop running a full OS sure, but a tablet crippled with a feature-missing mobile OS? :confused:

As someone who uses a iPad for reading textbooks, magazines, manga and eBooks, I would definitely buy a iPad Pro as I believe you can never have enough screen space on a iPad (and hopefully they'll do a 256gb version at a reasonable price as well!)
 
Samsung is exiting the laptop and Chromebook market in Europe

Apple is losing favour in the education market because its prices are too high for schools that are always strapped for cash (and not all parents can afford to buy a tablet for each of their kids), not to mention iPads aren't tough enough when put in the hands of kids that have to carry them around all day, which only shoots replacement/maintenance costs through the roof.

We have seen so many "an iPad per student" initiatives here when the iPad first came out, it was the thing in education, but it didn't last. And part of it is Apple's own fault.

This is why ultra-cheap Chromebooks are doing so well these days in schools, yes the quality is much lower than with Apple products, but replacing a Chromebook hurts a lot less than replacing an iPad or Macbook Air.

Except Samsung is exiting both the laptop and Chromebook market in Europe:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...t-victim-as-firm-exits-european-laptop-market

"Samsung has revealed that it will stop selling Ativ Windows and Chromebook machines across Europe, following in the footsteps of Sony."
 
Apple is losing favour in the education market because its prices are too high for schools that are always strapped for cash (and not all parents can afford to buy a tablet for each of their kids), not to mention iPads aren't tough enough when put in the hands of kids that have to carry them around all day, which only shoots replacement/maintenance costs through the roof.
Sadly this says a lot about our schools, in many cases they are just too cheap to modernize.
We have seen so many "an iPad per student" initiatives here when the iPad first came out, it was the thing in education, but it didn't last. And part of it is Apple's own fault.
Maybe it is the wrong tool for the job. The problem is tablets are great at what they do and can be extremely useful in education. However realistically students need a device with a keyboard, especially if they will have only one device.
This is why ultra-cheap Chromebooks are doing so well these days in schools, yes the quality is much lower than with Apple products, but replacing a Chromebook hurts a lot less than replacing an iPad or Macbook Air.

The only way I can see Apple re-entering this market is if they switch to ARM in a notebook class machine. They would need to drive the costs down to below $500 for a machine with a keyboard.

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1GB of RAM wasn't good enough for iOS7 either. As for iOS 8 they did improve RAM usage but even so 1GB isn't enough.
It's not really that they were saying though, it was more "I've never had an issue with 1GB RAM", on the iPhones anyway. iPads had the Safari refresh issue.

What they were missing is the fact that it's iOS 7 that was fine on 1GB, but missed the point that iOS 8, 9 & 10 will progressively suffer for sure.
 
Does anyone else see that the iPad screen is like 2 inches bigger than the MacBook airs? They really need to get a new comp.

Is it really that serious?

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As someone who uses a iPad for reading textbooks, magazines, manga and eBooks, I would definitely buy a iPad Pro as I believe you can never have enough screen space on a iPad (and hopefully they'll do a 256gb version at a reasonable price as well!)

Agreed. Some people can't see outside their own little bubble.
 
Samsung, Chromebooks, Europe, education doesn't compute

Uh, before someone goes hyping the value of Chromebooks in education in Europe, please read the following:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...t-victim-as-firm-exits-european-laptop-market

"A Samsung spokesperson confirmed the firm's exit from the European laptop market in a statement sent to The INQUIRER.

"We quickly adapt to market needs and demands. In Europe, we will be discontinuing sales of laptops including Chromebooks for now. ""

And consider from the same article:

"... the Korean firm is the leading maker of devices running Google's desktop software with 65 percent of the market."

If there was such a gold mine to be made selling Chromebooks for education in Europe, why is Samsung the exiting the market?!
 
i've been waiting for a "PRO" model, but if the only thing pro about it is that it's larger and a chip upgrade that's not going to do it for me. they need to make something that "competes" with the surface even if they don't actually need to.
You realize that makes no sense at all.
i'm not looking to switch but if apple doesn't feel threatened by loss of customers they will never go for a big change. i'm going to stick with my ipad 3 until i see a big leap. how about an osx ipad? with a pressure sensitive pen to compete with the wacom digitizers??
But why? I don't get this Wacom non sense at all, if you need a Wacom go out and buy one. The iPad isn't meant to be a digitizer.
bigger flash going up to 256GB o even 512GB? running actual apps.
Well everybody needs more flash, can't argue with that. However what is this non sense about actual apps? Are you telling us that the App Store isn't actually selling us apps for our devices. If you mean more capable apps you should say so, however that is all about RAM which you seem to ignore here.
that's a pro model. one that professionals can use. give us some ports. usb, lightning and hd video out.
Ports are useless unless you can easily develop custom apps to use them. Apple would have to get rid of the MiFi program for such ports to be really useful.
they put out new products that the day you buy them samsung and htc already have phones with cutting edge features. i love the iphone 6 but is it really revolutionary??
It is a device for a mature market, a market Apple defined, there is no way it can be revolutionary. Really I don't understand this mentality, it is like expecting a revolutionary Mac every year. Not going to happen fella.
i'd say the software is more of an advance than the hardware. i contend that it's more the software than the hardware that keeps customers loyal. i'n have 100's if not 1000's of dollars in apps. so i'm never changing but it is frustrating!!!
Then you have no idea what is in an iPhone, it is literally bleeding edge technology. Wrapped inside that glass and aluminum is the worlds most advanced ARM processor, the most advanced Camera system in a cell phone and a bunch of other goodies that go to support your software. In fact I'd go so far as to say that with iOS devices Apple has never enjoyed the technological advantages it has with these products.
even the new watch. yes it's very nice, but does it blow the competition out of the water as far as what it does? it may look better but where are some of the rumored sensors medical professionals were anticipating??
Have you ever worked with the FDA? If so you would realize how foolish your statement is. No experience medical professional would have expected anything more than what Apple is shipping right now because they would realize that the paper work itself would take years to process.
why would you make it so it could work without the phone? i know, we carry our phones everywhere anyway but still...
Huh?
bottom line, apple knows it has a rather rabid customer base so they don't have to compete with samsung, htc, MS or anyone else. so it doesn't bother to do so.
You would have to be delusional to believe that.
be honest, some of the stuff those other companies have in their phone you want! so hey apple start making phones, tablets and watches that do everything and more than the competition, not less!!! siri could use a voice upgrade and why doesn't it learn like cortana supposedly does?? still just one speaker?? where is the saphire? no pen not pressure sensitivity, no pro app, still no multitasking.
Again I don't know where you get the idea that there are no pro apps for these devices. Every time I turn around I'm finding new apps that support Pro users.
apple is behind but as long as we keep buying new stuff every year they won't feel the need to inovate. why overtake the competition in that area when you can ad a couple bells of whistles each year, stay behind and still sell millions of you products the first day now, not the first weekend or month.
Your statements defy all sense of logic or cause and effect. First off they have innovated significantly with each iPhone releases and iOS release. If you are un willing to see this then you have a very serious problem and probably should be seeing a doctor or other professional. Everything about the iPhone 6's involves innovation. You have the A8 with which Apple lapped the rest of the industry. Within that A8 you have a new processor devoted to supporting the camera, improved ARM cores and improved GPUs. That is innovation just within the A8. Then you have a state of the art camera, new cell processors, the M8 and a bunch of other innovation outside of the A8. People are buying these cell phones in record quanities because they are state of the art and don't have anything that comes close competition wise.
i'm a bit of a hypocrite because i bought an iphone 6, but i'm not buying a new ipad til i see a real pro mode not just a bigger model!!!

Good for you! Honestly I don't think you even know what a Pro model would be if you saw it.
 
But why? I don't get this Wacom non sense at all, if you need a Wacom go out and buy one. The iPad isn't meant to be a digitizer.

The thing that doesn't make sense is that 3rd party providers (including Wacom themselves) have been providing pressure sensitive Bluetooth stylus products for the iPad for years, including models that now have the same 2K+ sensitivity and small nibs that are almost identical to Wacom's own portable Cintiq line of tablets.
 
Just as they have made 3 versions of the Gear watch before Apple announced theirs, but Samsung copied them? :eek: :D:D

You are a dirty liar!!! :mad:There's no way in hell Samsung could come up with 3 versions of their Gear Watch. Stop making up stuff Scruff. Look I understand you're bucking for a job with Samsung, but saying they did something you know they could not have done is just plain wrong. The Gear Watch is just a blatant copy and you know it. Admit it! :mad: Admit it Scruff!:mad: ADMIT IT APPLESCRUFF1!!:mad:

/shakes violently

/breathes hard

/drools a little

/receives calming slap from Renzatic

"What's that you say Ren? 6? OMFG 6!!! You have got to be turding me?!?"

Uh, sorry Scruff. I was off my meds. Looks like you're closer to the truth than I was. Renzatic told me they're actually on their 6th iteration of the Galaxy Gear. Who knew?

Disclosure: Just joking with Scruff.:D:D:p:p:D:D:p:p:D:D:p:p
 
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Why does the 12.9" iPad have a significantly bigger screen than a 13" Macbook, in that rendering?

Because it is 4:3 aspect ratio instead of 16:10.The diagonal is the same length on both, but the height on the iPad is much bigger. Or it might be a mislabeled 11.6", but what I said is still true.
 
You are a dirty liar!!! :mad:There's no way in hell Samsung could come up with 3 versions of their Gear Watch. Stop making up stuff Scruff. Look I understand you bucking for a job with Samsung, but saying they did something you know they could not have done is just plain wrong. The Gear Watch is just a blatant copy and you know it. Admit it! :mad: Admit it Scruff!:mad: ADMIT IT APPLESCRUFF1!!:mad:

/shakes violently

/breathes hard

/drools a little

/receives calming slap from Renzatic

"What's that you say Ren? 6? OMFG 6!!! You have got to be turding me?!?"

Uh, sorry Scruff. I was off my meds. Looks like you're closer to the truth than I was. Renzatic told me they're actually on their 6th iteration of the Galaxy Gear. Who knew?

Disclosure: Just joking with Scruff.:D:D:p:p:D:D:p:p:D:D:p:p

Poor Renzy is still in the dog house. :( He really helps liven things up and take the seriousness out of non serious seriousness.
 
I hope they include proper stylus support with a nice Wacom digitiser.
Of course they will, because after waiting several years for Apple to produce an iPad I could use to create (professional) artwork, I just gave up and bought a Surface Pro 3. That means Apple's about to introduce an iPad for half the price that has everything I've ever needed.
 
iPad for Apple Pay? Lol.
Imagine holding a 12.9" in store.

But then, people take photos with iPad, including during busy and fast-paced events. I guess these same people will use Apple Pay on their iPad too...
 
Because it isn't an open invitation. Samsungs display division has products that it sells and frankly Apple could be inquiring about screens for a laptop.

Or maybe Apple is asking for an exclusivity on that LCD and Samsung display division agreed on that because it will give them a huge amount of business...
I know it happens in DSLR between Nikon and Sony. Nikon buys LCD from Sony (which is a competitor), but frequently has them custom made with features for the exclusive use of Nikon. That's a way to disable competition.
Likewise, we did not see the retina display of the macbooks and iPad in non-Apple devices...

Beyond that the divisions at Samsung aren't as tightly coupled as people here seem to think.

If it's like at LG, I would even say they're internal competitors... The Display division might wish that the Mobile division sells less, because that would mean they would have less power inside the company...
 
There seems to be a sad contingent of Apple fans that inevitably get their collective panties twisted whenever Samsung is mentioned as a supplier for Apple. This I don't understand. Apple doesn't seem to care enough not to use them. So why should we? In the end, it's business. It always has been. It always will be. Apple will use whomever they have to use to continue generating profit... moralizing be damned.

I personally don't give a hoot about who's components are inside as long as the final product meets my expectations. If it's Samsung's components, so be it.

What?? someone just open a window??? I smell fresh air!:cool::cool::D
 
Nothing "Pro" about iOS or any ARM-equipped device. It makes the Macbook Air look like a NASA machinery.
 
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