Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple seem to have forgot the meaning of the word “innovation”.

No, they are just not adhering to -your- definition of innovation.

Many people can't recognize innovation when there's so little visual differences from one generation to the next, even if that device is packed with new technology (software and/or hardware). If the outer shell didn't change, nothing changed.
 
I’ve always made sure to have the carrier service plan on my phones. I had a Note 8 with a badly swollen battery. Instead of dealing with Samsung, I went to the Verizon store down the road. I had a new (well, like new) phone the next day. I have dealt with Samsung on Tv issues and I learned a long time ago that customer service is something that they are very bad at. I can’t imagine dealing with them over an issue with a phone. Even making them understand the problem would probably take hours. But that’s what happens when you deal with a company that is more dedicated to selling you something than supporting that something after the sale. You end up with a bunch of off-shore support centers staffed by people who are impossible to understand that are just reading off of scripts. Customer service is largely dead these days. Apple is one of the few companies that actually gets it right.

Yeah I agree, the carriers service trumps them all, but that may just be anecdotal. I noticed Apple has become much more stringent with their warranty claims, pushing customers to their AppleCare plans. I recently brought in an overheating phone and was denied service because 1) my Wife had a UFC shirt on and 2) the employee saw a defect in a camera lens that the manager didn't see. I brought it to Verizon, I didn't even have a monthly insurance plan with them, but after literally 5 minutes they replaced it on the spot.
 
Yeah I agree, the carriers service trumps them all, but that may just be anecdotal. I noticed Apple has become much more stringent with their warranty claims, pushing customers to their AppleCare plans. I recently brought in an overheating phone and was denied service because 1) my Wife had a UFC shirt on and 2) the employee saw a defect in a camera lens that the manager didn't see. I brought it to Verizon, I didn't even have a monthly insurance plan with them, but after literally 5 minutes they replaced it on the spot.
The last time I was in an Apple Store was to have an iPod with a swollen battery replaced. They charged me $200 to replace it but it was way out of warranty.
 
If I were a professional journalist, I would refrain from using dated slang within the headlines of my articles. But then, I actually care about professionalism so... yeah.
 
I really don’t see the folding to be a good thing, maybe I’m wrong and I couldn’t care less about having such a large pixel count, the files would be way too large.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SFjohn
It's clear after taking a rather amusing skim of the comments, this forum needs trigger warnings for the blind loyalists. 🤣
 
I really dont understand the need want for smaller bezels. Its not like having a bezel that is 1mm thinner is gonna be some game changing thing.

It's not for everyone but I appreciate the edge to edge screen. It won't be game changing but atheistically pleasing.
 
If I were a professional journalist, I would refrain from using dated slang within the headlines of my articles. But then, I actually care about professionalism so... yeah.

I don't know if I'd call clickbait professional journalism, but hey they accomplished their goal and got everyone to click and argue. Plus they love the "throw shade" euphemism, you see it pop up every few months.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Unregistered 4U
Yet they still slap iOS 16 redesign on the Samsung Flip/Folds. 🤔


FbqSbIFXoAAPrgJ.jpg
 
  • Haha
Reactions: hellojohnny
No. They actually do it quietly and don’t release half baked ideas or vaporware just to get attention. I think 48 MP is overkill unless they release it with a brand new form of compression that is light years ahead of what is available today. Samsung uses a 2005 OGG format that is horrible because size of the photo files on their phones had been out of control for years.
Apple doesn't do vaporware? Ever heard of AirPower???
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nicole1980
That is a myopic viewpoint. No one in the smartphone market has truly innovated since the iPhone came out. There have been iterations and features added, but true innovation? Not so much. They all still look like slabs of glass with icons on them. Some are bigger, some you can fold, some you can swim with, but they are all still basically the same as they were in 2007. Even tablets and smart watches are just iterative of the smartphone. True innovation comes along very rarely. And being disappointed or saying a company has "forgotten" how to innovate, misses the lesson history gives on innovation.
I find this to be a confusing way to contradict an argument…

To paraphrase: “You’re not seeing the bigger picture if you think Apple have forgotten innovation… even though it’s true that everything they’ve done since 2007 is iterative rather than innovative… innovation is rarely achieved.”

So basically… Apple haven’t figured out how to innovate since 2007 (according to your post)… I think that means you can agree with the comment you tried to contradict. It seems the situation is either:
1 - Apple never knew how to innovate, they just fluked it, or
2 - Apple has always known how to innovate, but are wilfully choosing not to, or
3 - Apple knew how to innovate, but now they don’t (or have run out of ideas), essentially “forgetting” how to do it.
 
I find this to be a confusing way to contradict an argument…

To paraphrase: “You’re not seeing the bigger picture if you think Apple have forgotten innovation… even though it’s true that everything they’ve done since 2007 is iterative rather than innovative… innovation is rarely achieved.”

So basically… Apple haven’t figured out how to innovate since 2007 (according to your post)… I think that means you can agree with the comment you tried to contradict. It seems the situation is either:
1 - Apple never knew how to innovate, they just fluked it, or
2 - Apple has always known how to innovate, but are wilfully choosing not to, or
3 - Apple knew how to innovate, but now they don’t (or have run out of ideas), essentially “forgetting” how to do it.

Or point no.4 - Apple knows the difference between innovation, and meaningful innovation.

No.5 - considering how Apple owns and controls the entire ecosystem, innovation isn’t confined solely to hardware features on the iPhone. Something as simple as airdrop is an excellent example of what is possible when Apple controls both hardware and software, as evidenced by the lack of a similar feature on the android side.
 
It's clear after taking a rather amusing skim of the comments, this forum needs trigger warnings for the blind loyalists. 🤣
Blindness works both ways.
1. Blinded by our shiny objects so we can't see the great thing outside.
2. Blinded by the shiny ads so we can't see the mess inside that ads.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.