Would be quite fragile with that size. Can't see the benefit. Today's phones are nice and thin.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Samsung to Begin Work on Apple's 14-nm A9 Chips Before End of 2014
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Would be quite fragile with that size. Can't see the benefit. Today's phones are nice and thin.
Maybe I was not clear on my post, I meant part of the reader is in the screen itself and rest on the home button but it's clear at this point the Samsung reader is not that good.
There is way but I don't know if Apple will be able to do it. They need to relocate the home button to the back of the phone. I have seen reviews of the LG G3 which has a button on the back, and the reviewers say it totally works after getting used to it. I've played w/ the G3 and its actually easier to hit the button on the back one handed.
Anything is better than the "Soft" buttons on the Nexus devices.
God they sucked so much, quit everything accidentally.
You were crystal clear but still that's not the case. The entire fingerprint scanner is on the home button. It shows a graphic indication on the screen where and how to swipe the finger so people know how to use it and they do't swipe left to right etc.
Sorry stupid question here: what happens after 14? 7? 3.5? Then what? Does the chip cease to exist? Lol
^^This.
Galaxy S5:
1. Hold phone with hand you're not going to swipe with
2. Wake phone
3. Take finger, swipe down at the right speed and angle over the scanner
4. Hope that it works
iPhone:
1. Hold thumb over home button
This is also great example of why comparing spec sheets is redundant. Both look the same on paper but one is a thousand times better in real world usage.
As I've been saying forever - it's not what it does, it's how it does it that matters.
It is about balance. For example, they could cut the batter by 75% and make the current phone way thinner but you may have to charge it very few hours. Apple has a tendency to put too much emphasis on "thin" in all their product lines. In many of them, they forgo useful features to give a slightly thinner product. (example, removing ethernet and soldering RAM on rMBP to gain a mm - A professional model product should have ethernet )
In my si-fi turns reality mind, all this miniaturization and thinness can be useful when combined with other technology. Through the bendable glass and liquid metal, I do not see it as out of reach to have phones that are transparent or that wrap around your wrist until needed or that scroll into a pen (all have been seen in si-fi movies). We are still nowhere near the end of what can be done. It is just a matter of the technology maturing enough and the cost coming down to make it feasible commercially.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
A decade from now, the iPhone 11 will be invisible, made so thin you can't even see it anymore. Many of "us" will praise the thinness while Apple can shift to a strategy of shipping empty boxes and having some of "us" faulting the complainers for "misplacing" the phone.
They probably should. An A9 based iPhone will not sell well in Germany. "9" has very negative connotations there.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Seems they are up against the headphone jack. And the camera. My sense is that thin won't get much thinner.
No Apple has some history of ejecting functional utility to support further thinning. For example, they kicked the super drive out of iMacs so they could deliver those thinner edges (that do nothing). Some rationalize that ejection as "dying tech", etc. Whether true or false, that "innovation" arrived without a cut in price.
So it's not hard to imagine Apple kicking beneficial hardware out of iDevices in support of "thinner" too. Of course, the loss of such utility probably won't come with a price cut. And a chunk of this crowd will spin those drops as innovations even if we have to spend more to replace that utility in adapters and/or cases.
Last edited:
As you seem to have no issue with size, then why not purchase a 6 plus which gives you 2 days of battery
I don't want to agree with you but knowing Apple it's a possibility..
They still have another grade of thinness to go yet - they managed to squeeze a headphone jack into the 6.1mm iPod Touch 5 (The iPhone 6 is 6.9mm) so that gives us at least another 2 design revisions before it's a possibility which gives us another 4 years if we're lucky.
2014 - iPhone 6 (Design revision 0)
2015 - iPhone 6S
2016 - iPhone 7 (Design revision 1)
2017 - iPhone 7S
2018 - iPhone 8 (Design revision 2)
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
And Apple-license-required adapters to make all the existing headphones work OR we have to buy a special set of headphones to use with this ONE thing. Of course, the cheerleaders will spin it as "superior audio experience" and similar but the bottom line is paying either price in the name of thinner. Once again, I ask anyone: is the 6 "too thick"? Was the 5s "too thick"? I just don't see or hear much griping about existing iPhones being too thick. So what "problem" is thinner solving... especially if it means kicking out functional utility like a headphone jack that works with everything?
I want to trade in my iPhone 6 for a thinner 7. My 6 doesn't even bend easily.
Same thing that happened from cm to um to nm. You can call the 14 nm process the 14,000 picometer process if you want. There are still micron processes being used out there. Once we get down to the atomic scale, we will have to go to the subatomic scale, which would be quantum computers. And those are a very very long way off.