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Samsung to Cease Providing LCD Panels to Apple in 2013
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No, Bang and Olufsen is the Ferrari of consumer electronics. Everyone's grandmother owns Apple something. Apple is more like the BMW of CE.
Nonsense. Silicon valley has had its best days behind them. Asia is where it's at.
Now for software is a different matter, the us and Canada are dominant here, supported by India for outsourcing.
Asia is and always has been hardware developers.
Mmmmm Peter Luger, I haven't been there in a while. IMO the best steak not just in the city but in the US and maybe the world.
What are you talking about. Samsung use Android. It's developed by Google. You know, that software Internet Giant that Apple also cannot get along with. You will next be claiming that google are copying Apple maps.
The Power Mac. You know, that really slow computer Apple marketing called 'The Power Mac'! Yes Apple really have been lieing to us for decades now.
Apple had no choice but to stop development on their own CPU because they could not keep up with the competition. Every Mac user was happy to see them switch intel.
Never said it was the first -- said Apple only does it when their interests are being affected.
Don't recall Apple ever built their own CPUs. As long as I've been using Macs it's either had a Motorola, IBM, or Intel chip.
But leaking unannounced product details is a betrayal of trust. A company has to be able to trust its suppliers. No?
Honestly, I've owned dozens of Mac laptops since my first Duo 210. I also got what I paid for. Same with the SSDs. Apple only puts the Samsungs in the more expensive machines, not the low end MBAs. So instead of Samsung, Apple starts using Intel 520s or such. Crucial makes decent ones too, and its parent co, Micron, has supplied Apple with RAM, esp SODIMMS. Again, these are all commodities, and if Apple wants the best quality it can arrange for it.
Panasonic along with Sony getting out of LCD manufacturing business. Both Sony and Panasonic wants to sell only larger TVs because of LCD mfg issues. Sony had a joint venture with Samsung, sold its share back to Samsung. Sharp and Toshiba are also small players compared to Samsung & LG.
Who knows this could be just posturing on both sides. One fine day we may see headlines both Apple and Samsung reconciled, withdrew all cases and back together.
We don't have the big picture
No matter what MacRumors posts, and no matter what anybody says in the forums, none of us actually knows all the details.
It's quite possible that Apple asked Samsung for a deal on OLED panels for future iPhones / iPads and Samsung said no. Maybe Samsung wants to keep their Super AMOLED Plus technology to themselves, for use on their own phones and pads. Yields still aren't extremely good, so it's doubtful that Samsung could handle the demand for their own smartphones and pads plus iPhone and iPad.
If Apple is planning to switch to some kind of OLED technology in the next few years, now is the time to cut deals with the supplier(s). And apparently Apple's deal with Sharp goes way beyond just IPS LCD panels with IGZO-based transistors. IGZO can be used in OLED panels too, and apparently Sharp has developed a new, high-yield "printing" technology for making OLED panels. Who knows? The 2014 iPhone and iPad might use Sharp IGZO-based OLED panels. No need for dual LED backlights. Vastly less power consumption than LCD.
No matter what MacRumors posts, and no matter what anybody says in the forums, none of us actually knows all the details.
It's quite possible that Apple asked Samsung for a deal on OLED panels for future iPhones / iPads and Samsung said no. Maybe Samsung wants to keep their Super AMOLED Plus technology to themselves, for use on their own phones and pads. Yields still aren't extremely good, so it's doubtful that Samsung could handle the demand for their own smartphones and pads plus iPhone and iPad.
If Apple is planning to switch to some kind of OLED technology in the next few years, now is the time to cut deals with the supplier(s). And apparently Apple's deal with Sharp goes way beyond just IPS LCD panels with IGZO-based transistors. IGZO can be used in OLED panels too, and apparently Sharp has developed a new, high-yield "printing" technology for making OLED panels. Who knows? The 2014 iPhone and iPad might use Sharp IGZO-based OLED panels. No need for dual LED backlights. Vastly less power consumption than LCD.
Well that's like saying Bakery A on Smith Street doesn't "create" an apple pie when they turn out the village's best ones by all account. Once the recipe for apple pie has been around the block a few times, there are still bakeries who will produce better ones than others seem able to do. Samsung does have a great rep for LCD quality no matter who "created" the first one. I'm not actually into trying to get a particular manufacturer's screen on my next laptop but the Samsung displays really are pretty world class.
Some other poster commented that Apple should just buy its LCD supplier. I think not. How to ensure you're not reliant on one supplier if your primary one is under your own roof?! If your market share of the finished product is high, that can tend to discourage other same-component manfacturers from trying to compete. And, if you buy up enough different component fabricators then eventually you either run into antitrust issues or you find yourself with excess capacity (or unrelated regulatory issues) that you have to manage. That will cost money unrelated to why you bought some darn production facility to begin with. So much easier and probably cheaper to make contracts for component supply and keep a raft of lawyers on call to resolve quality issues.
Panasonic only makes good plasma. For now I prefer plasma myself, but I have actually chosen a Samsung plasma over Panny. Sammy has better color reproduction and overall better balanced TV. The best TV I've ever seen though is Samsung OLED ES9500. Both plasma and LCD technologies are on they way out, but nether Sharp or Panasonic come even close to make OLED.
HP monitors are made by Chi Mei. Enjoy those
Samsung has been churning out defective panels by the ton for years and I'm glad it is coming to an end. I'm tired of yellow stripes on every iMac and MBP I buy and discolored retina iPads and MBPs.
LG has a serious image persistence problem on the rMBP, so this won't solve Apple's quality problems overnight, but getting Samsung out of the picture is an important first step. I hope Sharp IGZO turns out to be a winner.
LG has a serious image persistence problem on the rMBP, so this won't solve Apple's quality problems overnight, but getting Samsung out of the picture is an important first step. I hope Sharp IGZO turns out to be a winner.
Even if it is true, the end result for Apple customers is just the same - inferior displays in the future products.
Can't be the best - clearly SIZZLER is - you know - because they sell more
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Further - Apple has done the same (spinning) - and would do the same. So kudos to Samsung for spinning first in this case I guess.
You're right fanboys will come up with our theories. My theory is that if LG doesn't rise up to meet the challenge, Apple will put their sizable investment into companies that will.
Yes right now this is bad for apple in terms of losing the quantity and quality that Samsung delivers. But for a future trajectory it's really quite bad for Samsung and brilliant for apple. Just like Jurassic park - "life will find a way." The industry will rise to meet the challenge and apple will make sure that their quality is at the very top as they always have, plus Samsung as others have mentioned no longer will have the inside track to apple components, tech and designs.
Yes this is a loss for both companies right now - but sorry samslugs it will hurt your beloved long after apple and her partners evolved past the parasitic lower life-form slug that is sammy.
I think Samsung is unwilling to give discounts Apple is demanding for the panels. Apple is known to get bulk orders at very reasonable rates. Don't think it would have much effect on any company. Samsung's LCD business has been running on very low margins so far, so I guess they want to improve on that. With $7.3billion profit (2/3rd of it is from mobile division), they are in a strong position to take certain risks on a business which has not been adding much to profit margins lately.
Tim Cook is the supposed pragmatic supply maestro I'm sure that the dumping of Samsung has been well planned and ultimately inevitable anyway. You've gotta give Tim the benefit of the doubt.
Umm...
Sure, that's great, IF you're not the typical shareholder who only cares about the short-term.....
Pursuing the highest profit margins without due consideration for the long-term effects (positive or negative) to changing components is the reason for decline or failure of many a great company.
Sure, that's great, IF you're not the typical shareholder who only cares about the short-term.....
Pursuing the highest profit margins without due consideration for the long-term effects (positive or negative) to changing components is the reason for decline or failure of many a great company.
They didn't cancel current contracts, they're just not creating future ones. No one screwed anyone. Why is it somehow "screwing" when my scenario of Apple having to pay more for components/sacrifice quality comes true?
I said this several months ago - and still believe it. Samsung has a contract with Apple and Apple is getting a great discount. Now that negotiations for a new contract are due, Samsung doesn't want to concede as much (and knows Apple has a HUGE profit margin as well) and the relationship is simply ending. Fact is - without Apple's order, Samsung can produce the same screens and charge more to other companies since they aren't locked into a contract at a bargain rate.
I also doubt any "emotion" is involved here. Quite simply - a contract was coming to a close. Both parties were negotiating a new one and/or put out their offer and it wasn't acceptable to either party so they are going their separate ways. Not everything is about some "vendetta" which more often than not is only in the minds of some forum members here.