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It was actually a report published in Korea.

“A report published today cites sources close to Samsung as saying that the large tech giant will not meet its target of shipping 350 million smartphones in 2018. Right off the bat, that goal is more aggressive than previously believed. Combined with the fact that sales of its flagship Galaxy S9 are struggling in China, reaching deliveries of 350 million units this year is "far-fetched" says an industry source.”


https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sam...-smartphone-shipment-target-for-2018_id106015


Which is still just forecasts and not actual numbers, from a source "close" to Samsung.

Which is as accurate as Apple not hitting their targets. "According to who?"

There's no actual numbers being verified here by either company, it's all just fluff until actual number are reported.
 
And the link you originally used is any more credible? https://bgr.com/2018/06/22/samsung-galaxy-s9-sales-2018-miss-projections/ Its seems its ok for you to throw figures and articles out there and we all have to take them as gospel but when someone else posts an article you have nothing but excuses.

What excuse?

I asked you who your articles were referencing?
Was it an internal projection being reported or an analyst speculating. I’m sure you have read the articles you posted didn’t you?
 
Which is still just forecasts and not actual numbers, from a source "close" to Samsung.

Which is as accurate as Apple not hitting their targets. "According to who?"

There's no actual numbers being verified here by either company, it's all just fluff until actual number are reported.


Someone else that doesn’t know the difference between an internal projected number Samsung came up with, and an analyst channel checking.
So who is the source everyone is referencing.

I posted plenty of numbers you just want to ignore it.
 
I hope Samsung loses badly in the phone business so that it goes back to its original refrigerator business.

Samsung was making smartphones before Apple even thought about it. And if you like Apple products so much, why would you want their biggest competitor to close up shop. Apple is slow in innovating and expensive now... imagine what they'd be without competition?

Note 7 fatal failure was reportedly due to the rush to the market before iPhone, now they’re rushing even more, good luck! Sammy must be really scared of IPhone X Plus.

There seems to be a reading comprehension problem running rampant in this thread. If they are releasing the Note at the same time they always release it in prior years, how is that rushing anything? Whatever next iPhone X that Apple comes out with next still won't have many of the features of the Note 8... things that people who buy a Note want, so I doubt Samsung is "really scared".

What's ugly about the back? Most phone backs look similar so it just kinda of boggles my mind when people say the back is ugly :/
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Can be argued that Samsung is one of the first companies to start making phones...since 1988.

I always laugh when people make these arguments too... Samsung was making smartphones long before Apple... and the iPhone's back design is not something to brag about. The stupid way they did the camera you can't even lay it flat on a table. They should have at least put a little bump on the opposite side of the camera so it would lay flat, if they weren't able to figure out how to design it not to stick out. SJ would have never accepted that protruding camera design.
 
What excuse?

I asked you who your articles were referencing?
Was it an internal projection being reported or an analyst speculating. I’m sure you have read the articles you posted didn’t you?
Your link was just as speculative as the one I posted which is my whole point.
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Which is still just forecasts and not actual numbers, from a source "close" to Samsung.

Which is as accurate as Apple not hitting their targets. "According to who?"

There's no actual numbers being verified here by either company, it's all just fluff until actual number are reported.

Exactly!!!
 
Someone else that doesn’t know the difference between an internal projected number Samsung came up with, and an analyst channel checking.
So who is the source everyone is referencing.

I posted plenty of numbers you just want to ignore it.
There are forecasts and actual numbers, they mentioned a second quarter, the second quarter has only just begun for the S9, it was released just on three months ago.
How can there be accurate numbers for the future?
It's speculative.
 
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Errrr, Apple didn't met targets for the iPhone X either. But don't bother presenting both sides of the argument that would be silly....

https://bgr.com/2018/03/07/iphone-x-sales-estimates-2018/

At the end of the day how many units sold is not directly related to what device is better, the S9 is a superior device to the iPhone X and thats all I care about. The Note 9 will be a great phone!
No one knows what the target for iPhone X is/was except Apple. Ant target you read is made up by analysts because Apple doesn’t make that information public.

We do know the iPhone X has been the best selling iPhone since release and has propelled Apple to record revenues and profit in the last 2 quarters.

For you or anyone to state or imply iPhone X had been anything but a rousing success is simply ignoring the real facts and making up your own like “missing projections” to support a false narrative.

Every public number and statement from Apple proves iPhone X killed it.
 
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What exactly did the Note 8 or S8 copy about the iPhone X or 8?
Got to be the face unlock or the oled screen, or the edge to edge display.

I know Samsung had them first, for years even, but they heard Apple were going to do it so rushed to beat Apple to the punch.

But always remember Apple are never first but always right!!!
 
No one knows what the target for iPhone X is/was except Apple. Ant target you read is made up by analysts because Apple doesn’t make that information public.

We do know the iPhone X has been the best selling iPhone since release and has propelled Apple to record revenues and profit in the last 2 quarters.

For you or anyone to state or imply iPhone X had been anything but a rousing success is simply ignoring the real facts and making up your own like “missing projections” to support a false narrative.

Every public number and statement from Apple proves iPhone X killed it.
You obviously missed the point of my post lol. Yes the iPhone X has done well, no arguments there. :)
 
As Klyster has pointed out there are no offical numbers from either source here so this is not going to go anyway. Im off to bed. :)

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No wonder you don’t want to post it again.
It’s from March 7.

Your referencing the Citibank forecast
Hahahaha I bet you didn’t even read it.

Errrr, Apple didn't met targets for the iPhone X either. But don't bother presenting both sides of the argument that would be silly....

https://bgr.com/2018/03/07/iphone-x-sales-estimates-2018/

At the end of the day how many units sold is not directly related to what device is better, the S9 is a superior device to the iPhone X and thats all I care about. The Note 9 will be a great phone!



February 21 even better

http://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-sales-are-less-half-apple-expectations-814039

Im just picking one of the many articles on this subject. My point is you to say Samsung have not met sales expectations with the S9 (which is true) when its well publicised that the iPhone X has had the same troubles. Now of Course when it comes to profits Apple is in its own league, the mark-ups they put on their hardware in combination with the power of the Apple name mean they make a killing. So many people have no idea about technology but buy iPhones because they are "cool" to own. Other companies can release a superior phone in every aspect and they still would not sell as many as Apple due to Brand name alone.
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No, the S9 is objectively the better device in many key areas. Do you really want me to list them again? Ive already done so in another thread.


You do realize they have been disproven by Apple at their last quarterly report...where they reiterated to not to try and guess how thier doing through channel checks

The report I provided was given sources within Samsung.
Huge difference... well if you can discern between internal projections and people making things up.

But you claimed to have more recent sources
 
The report I provided was given sources within Samsung.
Huge difference... well if you can discern between internal projections and people making things up.

But you claimed to have more recent sources

Within or close to? There's a difference.
 
Got to be the face unlock or the oled screen, or the edge to edge display.

I know Samsung had them first, for years even, but they heard Apple were going to do it so rushed to beat Apple to the punch.

But always remember Apple are never first but always right!!!

Apple didn’t copy Samsung face unlock.
It’s a completely different technology 3D vs 2d.
Samsung didn’t invent oled or diamond PenTile display either.

Edge to edge? More like corner to corner.
Apple is the first phone that display extends to all four corners. As a plus no curved edges.
 
Considering S9 can beat the newest iPhone X is already a feat in itself. I doubt there was ever a time when the current single model galaxy has ever beaten the current single model iPhone in sales in any months.
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Apple didn’t copy Samsung face unlock.
It’s a completely different technology 3D vs 2d.
Samsung didn’t invent oled or diamond PenTile display either.

Edge to edge? More like corner to corner.
Apple is the first phone that display extends to all four corners. As a plus no curved edges.

But with thick borders, ugly metal rims and notch :p
 
Considering S9 can beat the newest iPhone X is already a feat in itself. I doubt there was ever a time when the current single model galaxy has ever beaten the current single model iPhone in sales in any months.
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But with thick borders, ugly metal rims and notch

Maybe some day. Unforunatly if you compare launch sales between the two handsets (an apples to apples comparison) the iPhone X slaughters the s9 in sales. It’s not even close.


Not until the s10.
Which is rumored to a notch and no 3.5 mm Jack. And it should record more than 5 min of 4K video lol.
 
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Not sure why they would attempt to upstage Apple here. Apple's two year old iPhone 7 already sells more than any Samsung phone. Samsung needs to focus on marketing their features and what makes their products great opposed to always trying to be better than Apple.
 
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Not sure what you are talking about. Samsung provides a lot of apps in their package, but you can easily turn them off if you prefer something else. That is the beauty of Android... you have choice. But personally, I use a lot of their stuff because its pretty good stuff. I am enjoying the flexibility.

You can remove apps from Apple too, so I don't think Android really gives much more choice other than default apps.
 
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