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Samsung Tweaks Galaxy Tab 10.1 Design for Relaunch in Germany

Consultant said:
Still a knockoff.
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I suppose they checked very carefully to make it different enough to not match the design that is covered by Apple's community design while still looking as similar to an iPad as possible. The problem is that if you start with the iPad design and make random changes, it _must_ end up an inferior design.

I would think hiring a good designer who designs a nice tablet independently from Apple would be a much better approach. Unless the company feels they cannot compete, but have to copy.
 
HarryKeogh said:
Tough situation for Samsung.

There's only so many ways you can make a piece of glass look different.
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The corners may not be rounded. The glass may not cover a black frame (metal could cover parts of the frame, more like in this case). The frame may be of a different width. The frame may be of a different color. The shape may be different; the tablet could have flat iPhone 4-like back rather than slightly bulging.

I think there are many ways to skirt around this, since patents usually have to be pretty specific. It's probably that Samsung made them too similar in too many ways. That Samsung think that this minor change will allow them to move on is telling as for how detailed the infringement really was.
 
macfanboi87 said:
It makes me wonder how Samsung will survive in years to come now that the laws are being used. Something tells me in 5 years time their TVs will still look the same and the sales will be dropping exponentially. Especially when the rumoured iTV releases. I bet that will drop jaws.
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Five more years for Samsung's TV business - aren't you a bit too optimistic?

Samsung profit slides on slacking TV sales: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2011-10-28/samsung-earnings/50975698/1

Samsung profits drop 18% on falling TV sales: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14337466

;)
 
Have I just spotted an excellent idea by Samsung, that Apple should follow?

Am I mistaken or do I see two forward facing stereo speakers either side in the new narrow metal band?

If that's right, it's actually an excellent idea. Having one speaker that's it's most loud when you are looking at the edge of the device, or cup your hand around it to bounce the sound waves forwards toward the front (where you head is) is, let's be honest a dumb idea.

I really did wonder how the front facing speaker issue could be resolved.
Have Samsung found the most practical and neat solution I wonder?

Top marks if those narrow slits are speakers on both sides. :)

Surprised no one has commented on this yet. It's a real genuine improvement on the initial speaker placement of virtually all tablets up till now.
 
Piggie said:
Have I just spotted an excellent idea by Samsung, that Apple should follow?

Am I mistaken of do I see two forward facing stereo speakers either side in the new narrow metal band?

If that's right, it's actually an excellent idea. Having one speaker that loud when you are looking at the edge of the device, or cup your hand around it to bounce the sound waves forwards toward the front (where you head is) is, let's be honest a dumb idea.

I really did wonder how the front facing speaker issue could be resolved.
Have Samsung found the most practical and neat solution I wonder?

Top marks if those narrow slits are speakers on both sides. :)
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At least, there is where the original tab has the speakers, and they look like that, but they are in the edge
 
I think it's more than that. You see, Apple worked very hard to bring us quality products and a tight system, and when others go and steal their ideas, we take exception because that threatens their ability to continue bringing us world-class products and services in the future. We buy Apple because we like their unique take on things, and because we know they take care of users in return for brand loyalty. Samsung makes some good products, but but they don't exactly change the game, ever. In fact, their development tends to go wherever the wind blows, and they release so many models hoping that one succeeds, and all the people who bought the models that didn't take off can kiss support, updates, and service goodbye. That's a terrible way to run a company.
 
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Kaibelf said:
I think it's more than that. You see, Apple worked very hard to bring us quality products and a tight system, and when others go and steal their ideas, we take exception because that threatens their ability to continue bringing us world-class products and services in the future. We buy Apple because we like their unique take on things, and because we know they take care of users in return for brand loyalty. Samsung makes some good products, but but they don't exactly change the game, ever. In fact, their development tends to go wherever the wind blows, and they release so many models hoping that one succeeds, and all the people who bought the models that didn't take off can kiss support, updates, and service goodbye. That's a terrible way to run a company.
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It all comes back to horizontal business model vs. vertical business model. Even f they are both done right, vertical will win in consumer satisfaction each time, and consumer satisfaction is a major part of the success equation.

Apple is able to do the things they do in the first place because there's really no one else doing vertical integration. It's all universal OS licensing to OEMs.
 
Oletros said:
At least, there is where the original tab has the speakers, and they look like that, but they are in the edge
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Excellent news.

Oddly enough, this is a basic and fundamental improvement in the design then.
Even Apple fans admitted a front facing speaker would be better. I mean, it's obvious to even an amoebae that you ideally want a speaker to be facing you, not sending it's sound waves off side ways away from you.
But the dilemma has always been said, well, how can you fit them in the front? You cant have a load of holes in the glass really

Samsung look like they've cracked this fundamental problem in one simple stroke with this design. Ok, some may prefer the side bands, Black, or Silver, or perhaps even a colour. But It looks like a simple design change has solved this in one easy stroke :)

And I'm talking irrespective of who makes it, or the OS the things running.
 
Formul said:
There is NO samsung logo on current version (only on several PR shots), this practice goes as back as last year's failed Tab 7. Also it is quite funny that samsung alters products based on lost/potential lawsuits - but only for the markets where the lawsuits are/would be, just like SGS2 in US.
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I would say please provide proof of that claim.
 
the true purpose of all these lawsuits is not to bar samsung from selling a tablet, it's to slow them down. As if the iPad didn't already have a huge head start since it's introduction almost 2 years ago, all this cat and mouse stuff is just securing the lead. I think that samsung had the best of the non-iPad tablet out there, and I think that's why they are taking the brunt of the heat from apple.

Eventually someone will make an android tablet that is at least on par with the iPad, and then the real competition can begin.

I will say this much- I like that samsung put there camera in the landscape position.
 
Rafterman said:
You can blame Apple for that. Apparently, sleek and good looking designs aren't just Apple's hallmark, its their trademarked patent too.
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Show me Samsung's no-so-sleek design tablet from 2009 please... oh wait, they never had one...
 
Tiger8 said:
Show me Samsung's no-so-sleek design tablet from 2009 please... oh wait, they never had one...
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Agreed. With all these people who love to say, "There's only so many ways to make a tablet look," I pose the question, "Where the f##k were they before the iPad?"

Trust me, I've had my hands on a couple Windows tablets from back in the day and they were nothing to be excited about. Pens with "buttons"... WOW!
 
deputy_doofy said:
Agreed. With all these people who love to say, "There's only so many ways to make a tablet look," I pose the question, "Where the f##k were they before the iPad?"

Trust me, I've had my hands on a couple Windows tablets from back in the day and they were nothing to be excited about. Pens with "buttons"... WOW!
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maybe you should have had your hands on a joojoo tablet.
 
deputy_doofy said:
Agreed. With all these people who love to say, "There's only so many ways to make a tablet look," I pose the question, "Where the f##k were they before the iPad?"

Trust me, I've had my hands on a couple Windows tablets from back in the day and they were nothing to be excited about. Pens with "buttons"... WOW!
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I'm wondering what happened. Where was HP's big January 2010 tablet unveiling? You know, the one where it would be the HP CEO sitting comfortably in that easy-chair giving the keynote and astounding the tech world. Or Samsung's opportunity in 2007 to say via their CEO in a landmark keynote "It's an iPod (well, not for Sammy), a phone, and an internet communicator . . . an iPod, a phone, and internet communicator . . ."

Wow, everyone's got these amazing ideas - all these big announcements, all these prototypes, all these promises, but it's only Apple that bothers to develop them to any degree of usability, AND do it before anyone else does.

Why is that? Why is it always Apple that manages to churn out these game-changers? Why does my iPhone have an Apple logo on it and not an HP or Samsung logo? Why does my iPad have an Apple logo on it and not an HP or Samsung logo?

THESE are the questions we should all be asking. Why aren't others capable of this, and why don't they do it (and do it right) before Apple? Why does it almost always take Apple to swoop in and change everything and to show everyone else the way forward? What's going on here?
 
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Northgrove said:
The corners may not be rounded. The glass may not cover a black frame (metal could cover parts of the frame, more like in this case). The frame may be of a different width. The frame may be of a different color. The shape may be different; the tablet could have flat iPhone 4-like back rather than slightly bulging.

I think there are many ways to skirt around this, since patents usually have to be pretty specific. It's probably that Samsung made them too similar in too many ways. That Samsung think that this minor change will allow them to move on is telling as for how detailed the infringement really was.
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In this case, as has been previously pointed out, the patent system didn't come into play at all. A different form of intellectual property, known as "community design" was the deciding factor in the German injunction.

The registered community deign that Samsung was found to have been infringing literally consists of a series of line drawings which form a multi-view orthographic projection of a handheld device. Nothing more, nothing less. Assuming that the intellectual property is valid, the only way to avoid infringing it is to build a device with a shape that is sufficiently different from the device depicted in the drawings.
 
deputy_doofy said:
Agreed. With all these people who love to say, "There's only so many ways to make a tablet look," I pose the question, "Where the f##k were they before the iPad?"

Trust me, I've had my hands on a couple Windows tablets from back in the day and they were nothing to be excited about. Pens with "buttons"... WOW!
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Joojoo, electrovaya, tabletkiosk... heck, even Samsung (with its photo frame). Someone had - evidently - thought about the design before the launch of the iPad.
 
MacRumors said:
that Samsung has apparently relaunched the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Germany,
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Not just Germany. I purchased one of these last week for a test device. Used Amazon.co.uk, I'm in the UK. I got the new design also.

All in all the device is 'OK', battery life is rubbish! - and UI is very sluggish compared to iPad 1/2.
 
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