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This will probably be my next phone or maybe the Pixel 3. iPhone not even in consideration for me unfortunatly.
 
I really need to catch up a lot sooner ... page 1 replies sorry if already done ... ignore if so.

The lack of dramatic new hardware changes further proves that software/services will be the X-factor from now on.

New processor, New camera, new sensors, faster ram/storage ... but no new dramatic hardware changes. Oh wait I'm sorry you're talking about the EXTERNAL visual queues and hardware changes. Well like Apple they've made it slightly (shorter, wider, thicker) ... not unlike the iPhone 7, 8 was compared to the iPhone 6s/6.

Are you employed by Apple to write this dribble? I LOVE Apple always have and always will ... but I cannot subscribe to such blind faith for comparison just due to an announcement.

Because it sounds more stupid and unnatural than Animoji.

Not a minute into the presentation and the guy dissed Apple for ditching TouchID and the Headphone Jack. Then went on to copy Animoji (creepily) and faceID (not as securely).

At least the end user will know it's related to AR ... with Animoji the consumer doesn't. Oddly enough let's see which gets more expansion and at how fast a rate ... or which applications can tap into this? I know security for the end consumer maybe a big concern but utilizing EMM/MDM KNOX management not so likely as hardware encryption is from the CPU on upward ... is now Samsungs 3rd generation at this.

I was waiting for the MR front page to mention the S9/S9+. Interesting how this is becoming a common thing each new Galaxy device.

Considering last weeks global report that Android + iOS = 99% of the global smartphone sales and usage ... why not? Frenemies and rivals, Apple & Samsung, need one another both in partnerships and in competition to push the envelop ... we need to know what the grass is on the other side to see potential or what we're missing and request that.

No, they started doing that right after Apple used the word "Plus"

Took Samsung about 1 or 2 years to do so. SGS 8 was the first to get the Plus/+ moniker.


From this presentation I'm taking away the following each very impressive.
1. KNOX ... a renewed sense of business/enterprise push.
- Samsung is allowing their DEX desktop (hardware and software) to use full Linux Desktop Distro's to be installed, and used.
- Dex ... as already mentioned now supporting full Linux Desktop Distros (minimal but growing) allows for:
> 3rd world consumers that have never owned nor cannot afford a recently new (6yrs or earlier) laptop/desktop to have an alternative along with their smartphone. Data connectivity with their carrier or over WiFi. This will spawn new use cases and a LOT more developers (make no mistake this IS a threat to Windows, and to MacOS in time as hardware/software evolve). For those that may laugh at this ... remember XServe/XRaid ... both lost out to much cheaper (hardware/software/tech support) Linux server implementations globally.
> Also can run the full Eclipse SDK for Android. I don't know much about this but it's significant as there have been many posts and threads of iPad only users vs MacOS users wanting development and file management access on iOS on the kernel to the complete OS. Looks like Samsung is getting this happening.
- Apple seems to be "rumoured" to combine macOS and iOS ... yet personally I'd LOVE to have IOS launch MacOS via Lightning cable or a portable desktop hub, allow bluetooth keyboard and mouse, with USB-A/C ports for a full MacOS desktop experience. iPad's will remain to have their place. Desktops too but for ultra mobile travellers this is HUGE!

Many corporations are heavily or considering the move (if they haven't lagged already) to iOS for mobile smartphones. Many are on contract or can renegotiate or change providers with a HUGE corporate incentive to buy back quality used hardware for resale back to Apple or to consumers as loaners or repaired devices to say Samsung. I think small Silicon Valley companies may consider Samsung Dex as a viable low cost alternative or in India, West/S.Africa, mainland China (outskirts), Central Europe, etc.

Apple has always been slow to implement technologies ... which served the need for perfection very well for decades. I just feel their consumer base is getting far more advanced than what Apple is considering internally ready to deliver. I want macOS on my iPhone X v2 or v3 some accessories and compatibility like Dex. Tie this into what Apple already offers with software and we can be onto a beautiful new Apple.
 
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Acording to DxOMark and Displaymate the Galaxy S8 doesn't have the superior camera or the superior display. But they are pretty much identical in practice.
 
Oh wow looks like Mii, Bitstrips, Xbox Live Avatars, etc....

Animojis are unique and use the real emojis that people like to use.
Animojis are not unique at all. Everyone has the same 10 or so choices. AR Emoji creates your own with your facial features. And they have Disney characters. That’s huge. Apple totally blew that deal.
 
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I am genuinely excited about this. I bought an 8 Plus on launch day and while I love the phone, I find it a bit bulky at times. I've also played about with the iPhone X and I simply don't like it. I don't like FaceID at all. I don't like the notch. It genuinely takes away from the phone experience. I watch videos and I end up with a compromised experience. It's simply not good enough. I also don't like Siri. It genuinely sucks and never understands my posh British English accent!

Even though my next update is still over 18 months away, I am beginning to think about switching to Android. I bought a cheap BQ handset to play around with the OS and try new things out and I have to say, it's excellent. My only concerns are my existing HomeKit devices, but my Philips Hue, Logitech Circle, Harmony remotes, and Amazon Echo all work great with the Android....
 
The unwashed! Such is a vile term. Some would say it makes you part of the snob effect!. Now I like iPhones and iOS but its nothing about status and price make a product good. The S9 looks to be a good phone at a sensible price point for a flagship model, that can have via expandable storage have up to 400GB.

Having played with an X with is rounded screen corners (because all TV's and monitors have that right) Its slight but annoying at least to me, lip where the stainless band goes round the glass and its incredible fragility. Add to that the OLED screen with its own inherent issues and what I perceived as awkward gestures, meant I stuck with a seven this year. Call me a cynical consumer maybe or just aware that other operating systems and devices like the S9 can be good too. The X to my mind for its usefulness to me compared with previous versions was not £700 better (with apple care) than the 7 for my own needs, nor will any phone costing over £1000. Your wallets mileage may vary of course.
Indeed such comments are offensive, snobbish and belong in the gutter. Clearly the person who posted such a vile comment worships at the Apple altar.
 
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Their version of Animoji or whatever was really creepy "WHERRRE ARE YOU"

The phones are gorgeous though. The 8/8+ and X are just not very attractive imo, especially with The Notch. Hope Apple decides to try a different design before I upgrade from my 7+

Wait till you see Sony's full body copycat of Animoji ... let's just say if you're female get used to your digital self having a beard. lol.
 
Samsung flagship: S9 - $720
Apple flagship: iPhone X - $999

iPhone X pricing is ridiculous.

If they relaase a iPhone X Plus we'll have:
Samsung flagship: S9+ - $840
Apple flagship: iPhone X Plus - $1099


Apple could have increased the iPhone 7's $700 pricing to $750 or even $799 which would already had been a %10 to %15 yearly increase, but the $999 pricing was a %42 increase which is ridiculous.
 
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Because my experience with a brand new Galaxy phone has been nothing but terrible (work given phone mind you). The speed of the OS slows down to a crawl after a few days of usage. Not to mention doing anything is beyond not intuitive.

After a few months of using it, I "forced" my HR & Supply Chain depts to give me an iPhone instead as doing any work on that piece of garbage was maddening.

you sound like a director or executive at a corporation since you're still employed. Any manager (non director or senior level) would be shown a sideways shaken head or pointed to I.T. for sound advise on how to use the phone or limit applications that maybe causing the performance drop.

However you are correct Android phones are known to drop in speed performance, yet so is iOS when storage gets VERY low too.
 
The only really notable new features are dual camera aperture and dual speaker with ATMOS. Was hoping for game changing Windows 10 DeX to eliminate the need for a basic remote and home PC but nothing mentioned. That would easily justify the price.
Speaker with ATMOS? LMAO!!
 
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Indeed such comments are offensive, snobbish and belong in the gutter. Clearly the person who posted such a vile comment worships at the Apple altar.

I actually think the unwashed comment indicates a broader problem with the Apple brand and who it is starting to attract. In some weird anti snobbery fashion it was a (small) component of why I left the ecosystem.
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If you think you're getting a version update after a year, however, you're out of luck. Security-updates wise they've been quite ok lately.

..project treble will address this and the fact Samsung are pushing out Oreo to S7/S8 owners despite it still being a royal PITA to do so indicates their intentions in this area. They really seem to be listening lately, perhaps they smell blood in the water as Apple have lost direction?
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Ooh so a cheaper price then the iPhone and a headphone jack and new camera tech, for a phone, will be an interesting battle this one, shame about Samsung’s OS though, if it had naked Android it would be an easy sell.

Exactly how I felt until I used a Samsung device. Some of their additions are very good indeed and make it much better than vanilla Android in a lot of ways. e.g. multitasking, secure folder. The bloat reputation is out of date IMO.
 
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Hehe...doing work on a smartphone! Give me a break.

Samsung SGS 8/8+/9/9+
Samsung Dex (hardware connection) + BT Keyboard/Moue + External Monitor + External charger for SGS (& LCD plug)
Install Linux Desktop Distro for ARM
Results:
Full Desktop OS and Applications
Full programming SDK (Eclipse for Android)
Full Web browsing, plugins, codecs, cloud based storage access (we already get this on smartphones), full VPN and connections to corporate networks, file systems, and corporate intranet sites (Sharepoint etc), network/infrastructure for I.T.

So yeah getting work done an a smartphone is VERY possible, capable and available since Oct 2017. Look this all up ... you'll find you maybe very surprised. Many videos just show Samsung's Dex not the full installation of say Suse/Fedora/Ubuntu desktop distros.

I'm doing some digging this week and I'm heavily fascinated and haven't been interested in Linux Desktop OS since Fedora Core 2/3 ... and I am once again. Exciting times.

What's our alternative or match from Apple again? I still await Apple to feel their consumers (me/you/us) are ready to have MacOS loaded on iOS iPhones and some comparable accessories to be used like I've mentioned above for full mobile computing.

Motorola tried this all twice before and failed, no full Linux Distro possible.
I think Cannonocal (Ubuntu) tried this as well and failed too. no traction.

Samsung is getting somewhere.
 
Samsung SGS 8/8+/9/9+
Samsung Dex (hardware connection) + BT Keyboard/Moue + External Monitor + External charger for SGS (& LCD plug)
Install Linux Desktop Distro for ARM
Results:
Full Desktop OS and Applications
Full programming SDK (Eclipse for Android)
Full Web browsing, plugins, codecs, cloud based storage access (we already get this on smartphones), full VPN and connections to corporate networks, file systems, and corporate intranet sites (Sharepoint etc), network/infrastructure for I.T.

So yeah getting work done an a smartphone is VERY possible, capable and available since Oct 2017. Look this all up ... you'll find you maybe very surprised. Many videos just show Samsung's Dex not the full installation of say Suse/Fedora/Ubuntu desktop distros.

I'm doing some digging this week and I'm heavily fascinated and haven't been interested in Linux Desktop OS since Fedora Core 2/3 ... and I am once again. Exciting times.

What's our alternative or match from Apple again? I still await Apple to feel their consumers (me/you/us) are ready to have MacOS loaded on iOS iPhones and some comparable accessories to be used like I've mentioned above for full mobile computing.

Motorola tried this all twice before and failed, no full Linux Distro possible.
I think Cannonocal (Ubuntu) tried this as well and failed too. no traction.

Samsung is getting somewhere.

Dex is fantastic. Had a play with it in the s8 a while back. Didn't realise you could install a full Linux distro though? That's insanely cool.
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you sound like a director or executive at a corporation since you're still employed. Any manager (non director or senior level) would be shown a sideways shaken head or pointed to I.T. for sound advise on how to use the phone or limit applications that maybe causing the performance drop.

However you are correct Android phones are known to drop in speed performance, yet so is iOS when storage gets VERY low too.

The iphone slows when the battery has "issues" at the same time the new iphone model comes out :p
 
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Because it was a needless decision. Waterpoofing? BS as Samsung and Sony both have had waterpoof phones with headphone jacks for years. Space? BS again, we know they could have fit it in there.
Space is like the single biggest constraint in a phone, you can't deny it.

The lack of a headphone jack in iPhone 7 allowed them to move the Taptic Engine down quite a bit, while making it significantly larger and still having a taller battery compared to iPhone 6s. This is important, since the Taptic Engine is what makes the home button "click" on iPhone 7 and 8.

The real reason was to disrupt the market and pretty much force consumers to spend more money on their wireless headphones. It pisses off consumers, but it doesn't matter because Apple DOES NOT CARE what it's consumers want.

Don't they include cabled EarPods with every iPhone, and even an adapter so you can connect any pair of analog headphones? Nobody forces consumers to spend money on anything. However if consumers decide to go wireless, maybe even because they feel forced, most of them will discover that's what they wanted all along but didn't realize.

The analog headphone jack in smartphones is done. Get over it. Apple wasn't even the first company to do away with it, they're just the major player that made everyone else follow (yes, Samsung will too, eventually).
 
Wait till you see Sony's full body copycat of Animoji ... let's just say if you're female get used to your digital self having a beard. lol.
Sony already has a 3d camera system on their phone that turns you into a 3d model. It's very cool. You can even print yourself in 3d on a model or a cake :D

https://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-xz1/3d-creator/

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Samsung SGS 8/8+/9/9+
Samsung Dex (hardware connection) + BT Keyboard/Moue + External Monitor + External charger for SGS (& LCD plug)
Install Linux Desktop Distro for ARM
Results:
Full Desktop OS and Applications
Full programming SDK (Eclipse for Android)
Full Web browsing, plugins, codecs, cloud based storage access (we already get this on smartphones), full VPN and connections to corporate networks, file systems, and corporate intranet sites (Sharepoint etc), network/infrastructure for I.T.

So yeah getting work done an a smartphone is VERY possible, capable and available since Oct 2017. Look this all up ... you'll find you maybe very surprised. Many videos just show Samsung's Dex not the full installation of say Suse/Fedora/Ubuntu desktop distros.

I'm doing some digging this week and I'm heavily fascinated and haven't been interested in Linux Desktop OS since Fedora Core 2/3 ... and I am once again. Exciting times.

What's our alternative or match from Apple again? I still await Apple to feel their consumers (me/you/us) are ready to have MacOS loaded on iOS iPhones and some comparable accessories to be used like I've mentioned above for full mobile computing.

Motorola tried this all twice before and failed, no full Linux Distro possible.
I think Cannonocal (Ubuntu) tried this as well and failed too. no traction.

Samsung is getting somewhere.

This is literally so cool.

 
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