Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Yeah it absolutely does. Or are you trying to tell me the s8/9 would have less screen if they'd have a notch and add extra space left and right of the ear piece.

That would entirely depend on how wide and deep the notch was (e.g. if it was deeper than the bezel currently is). The fact remains that even with the notch, the X has a lower screen to body ratio than the Galaxy phones without the notch
 
  • Like
Reactions: Delgibbons
I'm surprised Samsung keeps promoting the screen's curved edges - in real world use, the curved edge creates some really bad and distracting reflections. What purpose or benefit does having the screen wrap down and away from the viewer provide? I get the benefit of minimal bezels, but overshooting the edge just because you can makes no sense. I assume it's done simply for marketing differentiation.

It's an example of the difference between Apple and Samsung. Samsung clearly created a novel product in their bendable screens, but they adopted them just because they could, not because it provides a benefit to the consumer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrUNIMOG
That would entirely depend on how wide and deep the notch was (e.g. if it was deeper than the bezel currently is). The fact remains that even with the notch, the X has a lower screen to body ratio than the Galaxy phones without the notch
So? What's your point? All I'm saying is that the notch gives you more display. Never said anything about screen to body ratio
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrUNIMOG
I get the benefit of minimal bezels, but overshooting the edge just because you can makes no sense. I assume it's done simply for marketing differentiation.

The screen is really the only significant differentiation that Samsung has ever had. Bigger sizes or OLED or curved...now they've run out of ideas to make the screen different and appear to be floundering.
 
"World's most popular headphone jack" LOL. This is brilliant. Who was the marketing wiz who came up with this? I'm sure this has already been mentioned in the 20+ pages of comments, but I didn't care enough to read all of them. Please tell me they understood that comment had to be made ironically.
 
Except it doesn't - here are screen to body ratios (Source) for Samsung phones and the iPhone X:

S8: 83.6%
S8+: 84%
Note8: 83.2%

iPhone X: 82.9%
Those numbers are misleading because they take the frame dimensions and calculate the screen ratio, the frame shape when it rolls off the screen should not be considered as the screen. The frame dimension should not be included in the calculus, it should be calculated only based on the screen area before the frame rolls off, the screen to body ratios then will be different.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: MrUNIMOG
To be fair, I think Samsung has come along way with their devices and granted they have some excellent hardware, it really comes down to preference of software with what somebody chooses. Hardware is superficial that initially attracts the user, but it’s the software experience long term that will win over the customer. I think android has improved greatly over the years, but my preference is with iOS and its security.

Totally agree. Because of the notch I switched to an Android device with large 6" screen and very slim bezels, it looks awesome. It has a smaller physical size than the 8+, but 0,5" larger screen. Also the hardware and camera is amazing. However i just cant get used to the software, Android works fine, but theres a lot of bloatware on it, and I am in doubt what solution to use for backup etc., theres one from the phone vendor, and one from google. went with google for now. In iOS theres one backup solution, one way to do this, that, and it just works, and youre not in doubt that it works or what to use. Also on Android there has been one software update since i got it, and my company phone which is an iPhone, had 3-4 software updates in the same timeframe. Also stuff like spectre and meltdown has not been patched on the Android phone, but it has been long patched on the iPhone.

I really hate the notch design, but i will have to switch back to iPhone in september, as I just cant get used to Android. -And no i cant go with a 8+ as it looks laughable with the gigantic bezels.

However the new Android phone has amazing HW, but it feels very different to iOS, and even though the hardware is amazing, it just feels strange. Hard to explain i guess. But i will have to go with the notch in september. I think it will be easier to get used to the notch than get used to Android.
 
I was pissed when they removed the headphone jack and didn't buy an iPhone 7.

Then I got my EarPods... They sometimes do know better than we what we need ;):p:D

But your wallet needs to be able to keep up... That's mostly the problem...
 
The 960fps drew me in for a second...but then I noticed that it only records for .2 seconds at that speed.

Um, no thanks. That sounds pretty useless.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrUNIMOG
Face ID vs to Touch ID is night and day for me, Face ID by a long shot. As someone who works in custruction and lives in a cold climate being able to unlock my phone without taking gloves off or with my hands covered in dust is probably the best feature for me

How's that? I work in ships construction and I have to take off my gloves (to swipe up) and my dust mask to unlock.
Quite a step backwards the face id for now..
 
We know that. But Apple users (and I used to be one) are buying into the walled garden and the Big Brother security of its ecosystem.
And Android fans claiming Android is truly open, that is funny.

One of the examples showing how Android is not truly open.
android-lockup1.jpg


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ntrolling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
 
  • Like
Reactions: WWPD and MrUNIMOG
Vivo Apex concept is at 98%. It can be done. As an X owner I would loved if Apple did something like Vivo Apex.
It would be 98% if the lower bezel was as small as the one of the side. Besides the pop up selfie camera is a single point of failure and the ultrasound used for under screen fingerprint scanner is unreliable. I know, it's a concept but I don't think it'll go anywhere, and I certainly don't expect Apple to go down that road.
 
The 960fps drew me in for a second...but then I noticed that it only records for .2 seconds at that speed.

Um, no thanks. That sounds pretty useless.

.2 seconds stretched to 6 seconds. Requires a silly amount of memory and camera architecture even for this:-

"The chip is also behind the remarkable ability of the camera to record speeds of 960 frames a second – dwarfing the rival slow-motion capabilities of Sony and Apple.

Samsung demonstrated this live by having someone pour water into a glass, then playing it back showing a 0.2-second clip stretched to six seconds."
 
  • Like
Reactions: DynaFXD
While i use a iPhone 8 for everyday I actually bought a S8 when it was on sale just for the VR alone.
 
AR Emoji... How did Apple not think of that? Tim has talked so much about AR...

Here is the thing from what I know so far about apple..they wont always be first but they try to be the best....speaking of ar emojis they arent that goodlooking..in terms of quality of animation and texture of the emojis..so basically its a haphazard..lets get this out quick kinda reaction from samsung
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrUNIMOG
While everyone is going back and forth on who copied who and which phone is trash, I'm mostly curious about the variable aperture. Sounds like a really cool feature that has a lot of potential.
 
I really hate the notch design, but i will have to switch back to iPhone in september, as I just cant get used to Android.
You have to think of notch as a design where form follows function and not the other way around. Questioning the notch is is like questioning the wheels on a car, and saying that car would look so much better without the wheels. Or another analogy is the grill or air dam on a car, some might think that it looks ugly too but performs a function. For me the greater beauty of the design is in the 'form following function'.

Another example is that every surface on a plane is not present for aesthetics but for function, and that to me is a really beautiful design. You can find many examples in biology too.

I can only imagine what would happen if the FaceID was on the back of the phone just to get rid of the notch, just like some Android phones have fingerprint sensor in the back. That would be a bad ergonomic choice to serve a distorted assumption about the notch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WWPD
I Don’t think every iteration of a smart phone needs to become ‘innovative’. I think smart phone manufacturers need to refine the user experience through software, as hardware is not really much of a concern. It’s the software experience that will keep the user retaining what they prefer with android or iOS.
With hardware, it's the little things like phone jacks and SD card slots that can make a difference. Wired headphones/speakers work great with the phone jack and SD cards allow for easy information flow between phone, PC, and cameras (like GoPros), and I don't see putting up with a plethora of dongles and lack of storage options as the gateway to a brave future which isn't here yet.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.