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To be fair, I think Samsung has come along way with their devices and granted they have some excellent hardware, it really comes down to preference of software with what somebody chooses. Hardware is superficial that initially attracts the user, but it’s the software experience long term that will win over the customer. I think android has improved greatly over the years, but my preference is with iOS and its security.
 
Smartphone innovation has become boring and not very innovative.

I Don’t think every iteration of a smart phone needs to become ‘innovative’. I think smart phone manufacturers need to refine the user experience through software, as hardware is not really much of a concern. It’s the software experience that will keep the user retaining what they prefer with android or iOS.
 
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Face ID isn't secure either so it's no better than Android face unlock that came before. For single factor authentication iris > fingerprint > face but best is multi-factor authentication with combination of iris + fingerprint.

Completely wrong.

Samsung face unlock is easily fooled by a picture. Their iris unlock is easily fooled by a picture and a generic contact lens.

FaceID required the construction of a detailed mask to fool. And the people who claimed to have done it most certainly cheated (like putting in a PIN after a false try on their mask) as they famously refused to answer the most basic questions presented to them and dodged others.
 
Max aperture is max aperture. How is variable (ie ability to close the lens) going to help in low light, when it reduces the ability for it to pull in light.

Good bump on the other features, but more proof that the smartphone market is essentially Mature.
 
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The lack of dramatic new hardware changes further proves that software/services will be the X-factor from now on.

Not true.

They are on more of a tick tock strategy now. The S6 was a dramatic redesign, the S7 refined it. The S8 was a dramatic redesign, and the S9 refines it. Next year will likely be something more dramatic again.

Amazing cameras. Can't wait to see the comparison between the S9 and iPhone X.

TBH it is more about comparing these to the Pixel 2 as well!

A lot of Galaxy S8 owners I'm seeing on social media are saying they are switching to iPhone after this snoozefest. Samsung has no new ideas and people seem to be sick of all the Sbloat.

Well the S8 was literally last year, so everyone who knew anything about the S9 realised it was a refinement year, and it is a lot less bloated than before.

Regardless, Pixel is slowly becoming the way forward for Android. But Samsung is still the market leader by a huge distance.
 
Hey look a reasonably priced flagship.

Does it have a headphone jack though...
Yes it has. B74E9DB0-C668-4086-A0D8-34CE4B789CF0.jpeg
 
So the same thing as the S8 with some old camera tricks. Probably a fine phone, but I’m surprised how little Samsung is criticized when they make little to no changes to phones and software for years.
Todays smart phones have matured to the point where small changes are the norm. This includes Apple. I'm surprised how many people feel the need to spend so much money on a device which, in the end, doesn't do anything for them than what came before.
 
And why would it? It's an Android phone. It's not supposed to be the same experience.

Because my experience with a brand new Galaxy phone has been nothing but terrible (work given phone mind you). The speed of the OS slows down to a crawl after a few days of usage. Not to mention doing anything is beyond not intuitive.

After a few months of using it, I "forced" my HR & Supply Chain depts to give me an iPhone instead as doing any work on that piece of garbage was maddening.
 
Not true.

They are on more of a tick tock strategy now. The S6 was a dramatic redesign, the S7 refined it. The S8 was a dramatic redesign, and the S9 refines it. Next year will likely be something more dramatic again.
Disagree. The S6, S7, S8, and now S9 are all refinements on the previous generations. Smartphone technology has matured to the point where refinements are where it's at. Both with Android and Apple.
 
Max aperture is max aperture. How is variable (ie ability to close the lens) going to help in low light, when it reduces the ability for it to pull in light.

Good bump on the other features, but more proof that the smartphone market is essentially Mature.

It’s not for low light. Smaller apertures give greater DOF (depth of field). Large apertures give shallow DOF (great for portraits to soften the background).

However, with a range from f1.5-f2.4, there’s not much range at all (a typical SLR lens would have a much wider range, like f2.8-f22, for example).
 
For what people are calling an incremental upgrade to the S8, it's one helluva increment with that Camera. Keeping the beautiful design of the S8 with even slightly less bezel on top and bottom was a wise decision. Not having a hideous and intrusive afterthought notch, keeps the phone looking sleek and very modern. You want animated emojis? Samsung does it better with AR Emojis. I don't know anyone that uses Apple animojis. But already, hands on users are saying they would most definitely use AR Emojis. Why wouldn't they? We use emojis all the time, and Samsug just took it to a new level with the way they implemented AR emojis to use across all social media. There's not a doubt in my mind that more than a few people here, and few of the Apple butt kissing tech reviewers, secretly wished Apple did the same thing. Instead, Apple gave you a poop faces and unicorns. smh.


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Because my experience with a brand new Galaxy phone has been nothing but terrible (work given phone mind you). The speed of the OS slows down to a crawl after a few days of usage. Not to mention doing anything is beyond not intuitive.

After a few months of using it, I "forced" my HR & Supply Chain depts to give me an iPhone instead as doing any work on that piece of garbage was maddening.
I don't have a problem with my Android slowing down after a few days of usage.
 
Samsung has come a long way nice phone, I won't give up my X for it though.

Just curious does iPhone do that thing with the camera where you take a picture of a foreign language and convert it, I like that feature.
 
Disagree. The S6, S7, S8, and now S9 are all refinements on the previous generations. Smartphone technology has matured to the point where refinements are where it's at. Both with Android and Apple.

True. However, do you remember the complaining about the iPhone 8 looking the same as the 7 and the 7 looking like the 6S? You’d think it was the end of the world.
 
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I Don’t think every iteration of a smart phone needs to become ‘innovative’. I think smart phone manufacturers need to refine the user experience through software services, as hardware is not really much of a concern. It’s the software experience that will keep the user retaining what they like about android or iOS.
They won't sell as many phones that way. Might as well just keep your phone for years if all they really improve is the software. There won't be any reason to upgrade every year, every 2 years or even every 3 years. If software is all they improve, they will need the new software to overload the older phones causing major slowdowns. Oh wait, they do.
 
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