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Doesn‘t look attractive at all to me. As expected, it’s inelegantly thick when folded. Reminds me of the 90‘s Nokia Communicator. And who would actually expect this to last long? Color me surprised if these things don’t break after a few months.
 
The fact of the matter is Samsung are pushing technology to its current boundaries and creating revolutionary new products far ahead of Apple.
In my eyes at least, Apple lost their true innovation power a long time ago.
 
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Doesn‘t look attractive at all to me. As expected, it’s inelegantly thick when folded. Reminds me of the 90‘s Nokia Communicator. And who would actually expect this to last long? Color me surprised if these things don’t break after a few months.

Agreed somewhat, but what you have to understand is that this is "Version 0.1" (edit: And a very good attempt at that)

It's not perfect, It's very expensive, Samsung are very well aware they won't sell very many of these, but this is all about process and technology improvement, 3-4 years down the road all of this will be fixed.
 
The fact of the matter is Samsung are pushing technology to its current boundaries and creating revolutionary new products far ahead of Apple.
In my eyes at least, Apple lost their true innovation power a long time ago.
Only shows that you can look, but you are still blind.
 
I would speculate that although is an engeniring achievement it will fall short in app support and user interest... Would this be a new ‘windows phone’? A tablet is a tablet. A phone is a phone... Different tools for different use cases. A tablet that folds as a phone!? Looking foward to hear the premium guinea pig customers frustrations...
 
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Only shows that you can look, but you are still blind.

I think most are blind to what innovation actually is.
This device seems to be ‘we made it because we can’. I dont find that innovative really and reminds me of the old Pocket PC devices that Apple ignored until they were able to make something that was truly useful.

It is an amazing piece of ‘tech’ and the innovation of the screen is very impressive. Everything else, I am not that excited right now.
 
It takes more than one speck first of all and it doesn't happen always, just sometimes. Get your facts straight.
I'm writing this from a mbp 2017 with a keyboard that is failing on me for the second time already so I'll be sending this mbp in for a replacement soon again. Before this I've had 3 other mbp's and never had a keyboard fail on me. It's obviously a major fault with the design itself. So no actually you should be the one getting your facts straight.
 
I'm writing this from a mbp 2017 with a keyboard that is failing on me for the second time already so I'll be sending this mbp in for a replacement soon again. Before this I've had 3 other mbp's and never had a keyboard fail on me. It's obviously a major fault with the design itself. So no actually you should be the one getting your facts straight.
In my office, we have 7 15" with touch bar and all are working perfectly fine including all keys on every keyboard. Just saying.
 
In my office, we have 7 15" with touch bar and all are working perfectly fine including all keys on every keyboard. Just saying.
Sure. Give them some time and you'll have problems as well. I have friends it happened to as well so it's obviously not something that happens to just a few ppl. Suggesting otherwise is ridiculous. There is obviously a reason Apple was forced to launch the Keyboard replacement service program.
 
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I think most are blind to what innovation actually is.
This device seems to be ‘we made it because we can’. I dont find that innovative really and reminds me of the old Pocket PC devices that Apple ignored until they were able to make something that was truly useful.

It is an amazing piece of ‘tech’ and the innovation of the screen is very impressive. Everything else, I am not that excited right now.
Exactly my point, it's not about if you can make it because Apple could make. It's a case of why we should make it. It has too many issues. It's not a real consumer product.
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Sure. Give them some time and you'll have problems as well. I have friends it happened to as well so it's obviously not something that happens to just a few ppl. Suggesting otherwise is ridiculous. There is obviously a reason Apple was forced to launch the Keyboard replacement service program.
Is a year not enough time? You are basically saying that with time every keyboard will fail on them. Which is very hard to believe.
 
Is a year not enough time? You are basically saying that with time every keyboard will fail on them. Which is very hard to believe.
My sample pool is two out of two personally. Then I know at least 2 ppl who had keyboards replaced as well so yeah it's a major design flaw obviously and very unlike Apple. I don't see how or why anyone would defend that.

Edit: Btw also it took about a year before the first failed on me so maybe your office mates will soon get there. Enjoy the headache.
 
It takes more than one speck first of all and it doesn't happen always, just sometimes. Get your facts straight.

The fact of the matter is dust can break an Apple keyboard on a laptop that costs thousands.
DUST!
 
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My sample pool is two out of two personally. Then I know at least 2 ppl who had keyboards replaced as well so yeah it's a major design flaw obviously and very unlike Apple. I don't see how or why anyone would defend that.
I'm not defending anything and basing it on what I see. He said, she said is not evidence to me.
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The fact of the matter is dust can break an Apple keyboard on a laptop that costs thousands.
DUST!
Dust brakes keyboards? Wow, indeed it's the first keyboard that dust can brake you are right, oh wait ...
 
I'm writing this from a mbp 2017 with a keyboard that is failing on me for the second time already so I'll be sending this mbp in for a replacement soon again. Before this I've had 3 other mbp's and never had a keyboard fail on me. It's obviously a major fault with the design itself. So no actually you should be the one getting your facts straight.
Anecdotal is anecdotal. Clean your desk off
 
I'm writing this from a mbp 2017 with a keyboard that is failing on me for the second time already so I'll be sending this mbp in for a replacement soon again. Before this I've had 3 other mbp's and never had a keyboard fail on me. It's obviously a major fault with the design itself. So no actually you should be the one getting your facts straight.
2015 rev1 MacBook here. Absolutely no issues.
 
I think they have it all wrong. Here is what the proper "Fold" phone should be!

The crowd gathers at Steve Jobs theater.....

Announcing the iPhone Flip X -

1. Thinner on both sides and lighter (so overall its not like carrying a brick).
2. The fold should be horizontal, not vertical. (to emulate a flip phone).
3. Like a flip phone, the fold should be used to make it smaller and easier to fit into your pocket. (Snarky joke regarding a bulge in your pocket)
4. Oh and one more thing....... Priced @ $799

There you have it! Innovation! Boom! :)


Horizontal fold will never happen:
1) It would mean when folded you would have a square 1:1 ratio shape in order to get proper ratio tablet when unfolded
2) If you want to keep rectangle shape when folded, something reminiscent of current phones, when open the screen would have some insane tall ratio completely unusable for tablet or phone purposes.


It's simple as this: take your Razr and imagine the front plate being a screen, flip it open and then imagine all that area being a screen. Did you get a tablet? No. What you got is only a taller phone. And then you factor in that small screen like Razr front plate is completely unusable with Android or iOS interface cause both rely on giant headers and footer with content in between them and scaling it to iPhone 4 like display would be a mess. And on top of that you factor in the that both Android and iOS aren't ready for tall displays either because they require you to constantly go from bottom edge of the screen to navigate to top of the edge of the screen for app contextual actions.

You know what the future is? MicroLED slider. Imagine two iPhone Xes stacked underneath each other, you swipe the bottom one to the left, it hinges right into top display and you got yourself double the screen estate.
 
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Anecdotal is anecdotal. Clean your desk off
Already do that regularly after the first keyboard failed. But yeah you might be right and maybe we've just been very unlucky. Good thing at least Apple came out and admitted the problems so I won't be the one paying for it this time. But let's just say I did not expect to have to replace the keyboard for a $3000 device once a year when I bought it.
 
Ahhh, sorry didn't know you already owned and worked on this new Samsung device..
Care to give us all the inside scoop?
Are you serious right now? Samsung tablets can't compete with an iPad in productivity and you want to tell me it will be any better with no software support on this foldable phone (by foldable i mean two phones glued in the middle)? I don't have to go to the moon to know it's not made out of blue cheese.
 
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