The only way I can see Apple doing that successfully is they take a 6S body with some newer internals and sell the phone in China or especially India, and have it geolocked to those two countries only so it can't be exported. And at a price just higher than that of Indian Android manufacturers. If they could get an iPhone in the hand of just a third of India's population, then that's something big.
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You can also turn your argument around:
Apple is always being hammered for not being the first with:
TouchID, tablets, AirPods, Apple Watch, notch, etc. But they were the first to bring this to mass market and have a good implementation of the features.
If you look at it from that perspective, samsung isn’ t any better than apple at innovating .
And you also can’ t buy the fold yet, in more than 2 months you can....
And since Huawei will also be showing a foldable in the very near future, they might just beat samsung to the punch to get it in stores earlier. And who would be first? Samsung giving a very limited tech demo or Huawei that could bring it to the market earlier.
It is all just about creating illusions that you are first these days and the most innovative company in stead of showing a real product you can buy right now.
I'm not using an argument, mate. I said if we used the typical logic seen on this site. Personally, I think Face ID is silly, just as I thought Samsung was stupid to implement Face Unlock years ago. Fingerprint scanner or pin/pattern are good enough, IMO.
Both companies need to learn KISS engineering. Overly complex stuff doesn't matter. KISS would alleviate either's phones of numerous components that don't need to be there. I find Face ID and Face Unlock incredibly poor methods of locking down a phone.
It's actually 4.6" for the Fold's external display.
But you're forgetting the biggest difference... aspect ratio.
Outside screen on the Fold is 21:9.... iPhone 8 is 16:9. This radically affects screen area.
7.66 inches² for the Fold
9.44 inches² for the iPhone 8
It honestly seems like they started with the tablet first... folded it in half... and then figured out what size screen they could squeeze into the remaining area on the outside.
It looks like they put a tall skinny screen on a TV remote...
Nah apple don't like to create dilemmas. They'll probably raise the MBP price as well, to solve the problem.
This Galaxy Fold, though... not so great imo, and surely they picked only specific apps that play nicely with it. Too small for a phone and too small for a tablet. But it's all about marketing and who did it first, I guess...
It may fit in some pockets, but for many it will be too uncomfortable, or too lumpy, meaning the best tablet will be the phablet they have with them. 2 times smaller screen, but realistically pocketable, and 50% more screen for much of what it's used for.
I think you are right. Making the first punch seems to be what drives it. I don't think I would call it innovation though...not like the original iPhone. I certainly wouldn't want to carry tha thing in my pocket. Can Apple make it better or do it right?
Do people really want or need a foladble cell phone with an even more enormous size given the devices already available?
And the total area is larger than an XSMax, and twice as fat...
The screen on an xsmax is 12.86 sq in.
Sure... but I was replying to a comment about the Fold's outside screen as compared to an iPhone 8
Cost is one thing, but the big thing is the *big* thing.
Development cost, unheard of technology, 6 cameras, and 2 screens are not figures of merit on a device that is not realistically pocketable.
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Say what you will, Samsung outdid Apple this time. For a first-gen product, the execution is astounding. The thickness is most likely due to battery size. It might be a niche product now but the foldable technology has great potential, probably enough to have a category of products of its own.
Sorry, I had trusted Wikipedia.
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Thickness is partly due to the bendable display needing the maintain a minimum radius resulting in not a clean fold but in something with a significant gap around that bending radius. Plus there are three displays that each have their own thickness. Plus the battery, as you allude to, has to power the larger display (which in itself probably means you get at least twice the thickness of a tablet + the radius + the extra outer display).
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The technology of the folding display is awesome. And anyone can’t deny that Samsung is trying to push limits that other tech manufacturers aren’t. The reality is, will Apple _ever_ provide us with something similar? Maybe, but I don’t think that will be anytime soon. And even if Apple does, you would have to expect it to be a similar price that Samsung is also advocating. No matter how I look at this, it’s a fascinating world to see the technological changes over the years, and Samsung always seems to try to be different in that respect, and I can appreciate that.
For me, the only useful application of this tech would be a clamshell 13-20” iPad/tablet that folds in half to be more portable and fit easier into your bag. But without the weird extra screen on the outside. This mutant half-phone half-tablet monstrosity seems like a nightmare that should be put out of its misery.
Strongly disagree. This is going to be really big in a few years when the prices comes down and they thin it down a little.
Well done samsung. Completely outdid Apple this time. Ridiculous to say otherwise.