Samsung's Galaxy S9 Expected to Copy iPhone X's Animoji Feature

[apolloa]

So is the standard for innovation whether or not a company creates something on its own or acquires it from another company?

Clearly it’s when a company actually invents something. Not like Apple just buys everything..
That’s obvious isn’t it? Otherwise Apple would never have settled out of court with Ericsson, right before Ericsson ripped them to pieces in court, because it innovated and invented the majority of tech that makes modern cellular work and has the patents to back it up.

 

[deanthedev]

What would that be then?

Well, Samsung could finally make a 6 wide processor. Oh wait, they did - the newest Exynos 9810 coming in the S9 is 6 wide. Finally caught up with the Apple A7 from 4+ years ago.

Or they could give up on using inferior UFS for their storage and catch up with the iPhone 6S.

Or they could abandon software encryption and employ a dedicated inline hardware encryption module and catch up with the iPhone 3GS.

There's 3 quick ones for you.
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Clearly it’s when a company actually invents something. Not like Apple just buys everything..
That’s obvious isn’t it? Otherwise Apple would never have settled out of court with Ericsson, right before Ericsson ripped them to pieces in court, because it innovated and invented the majority of tech that makes modern cellular work and has the patents to back it up.

Hook, line, sinker.

Apple just buys everything? Where does that leave Google? Google must be the least innovative company on the planet, since literally every product they have (except Search) was acquired.

Android, Gmail, Adsense/Adwords, Maps, Docs, YouTube - all bought. Not only were they bought, but Google has acquired countless smaller companies that ended up in these products. Google buys companies at a rate that's around 4-5x as high as Apple does. Does that make Google 1/4 to 1/5 as innovative? I mean, if we're using acquisitions as a measure of whether or not a company is innovative.

 

[sinsin07]

Firstly as I said, did Apple invent Animojis?

Wasn't responding to whether or not Apple invented Animojis.
Was responding to "It's sad".

And I didn’t see many other stories claiming they were copying Apple like this one.

That fact that you didn't see many stories is on you.
The stories are out there.

And secondly, no that story does not cover it, it only pertains to Google and not Huawei:
http://pocketnow.com/2018/02/09/huawei-p20-plus-leaked-renders-three-rear-cameras

My bad.
Samsung is Apple's major high end competitor. Not Huawei.
Maybe when Huawei is on the same level as Samsung and Apple you will see more on Huawei on this site.
Strange how you can find out information on a Huawei upcoming phone yet failed to do find "many other stories" on Samsung copying Apple Animojis.

This is how you copy Apple.

Well, that would be an opinion, therefore irrelevant.

 

[apolloa]

Hook, line, sinker.

Apple just buys everything? Where does that leave Google? Google must be the least innovative company on the planet, since literally every product they have (except Search) was acquired.

Android, Gmail, Adsense/Adwords, Maps, Docs, YouTube - all bought. Not only were they bought, but Google has acquired countless smaller companies that ended up in these products. Google buys companies at a rate that's around 4-5x as high as Apple does. Does that make Google 1/4 to 1/5 as innovative? I mean, if we're using acquisitions as a measure of whether or not a company is innovative.

Why are you talking about google? I thought this was a story about Apple? I don’t know if google buys everyone too as I don’t follow news on them...
However, the founders of google invented the search algorithms on there own that google is based on as I understand, I think that’s pretty innovative no? Did they acquire google maps? And gmail? Where did they buy that from?

Wasn't responding to whether or not Apple invented Animojis.
Was responding to "It's sad".

That fact that you didn't see many stories is on you.
The stories are out there.

My bad.
Samsung is Apple's major high end competitor. Not Huawei.
Maybe when Huawei is on the same level as Samsung and Apple you will see more on Huawei on this site.
Strange how you can find out information on a Huawei upcoming phone yet failed to do find "many other stories" on Samsung copying Apple Animojis.

Well, that would be an opinion, therefore irrelevant.

Ok, it’s an opinion if Samsung is copying Apple too.

Post a link to a none Apple site where they claim Samsung is copying Apple, don’t post google search results which are actually against the forum rules anyway..
Strange how you will claim Samsung are copying Apple for something Apple never invented, yet then go and proclaim it’s an ‘opinion’ when a competitor blatantly rips off the iPhone X design just because they don’t sell as many phones? So are we at the stage now when someone can only be considered to copy Apple when they are big main competitors and smaller ones don’t copy them?

It’s rather confusing keeping up with how you lot pertain someone copying Apple or not....

 

[sinsin07]

Clearly it’s when a company actually invents something. Not like Apple just buys everything..
That’s obvious isn’t it? Otherwise Apple would never have settled out of court with Ericsson, right before Ericsson ripped them to pieces in court, because it innovated and invented the majority of tech that makes modern cellular work and has the patents to back it up.

More research on your part might be beneficial.

This is just 9 of the top companies Samsung purchased.
Please note, some are related or have mobile applications, some don't:
January 2018: Top 9 Companies Owned by Samsung
Here's another:
Samsung buys Harman - here's what it'll mean for your next car, phone, and more
And another:
Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by the creators of Apple’s Siri
I'll leave it to you to find out more on Samsung acquisitions.

 

[kheard73]

Lets see if they come up with a commercial for this...

 

[deanthedev]

Why are you talking about google? I thought this was a story about Apple? I don’t know if google buys everyone too as I don’t follow news on them...
However, the founders of google invented the search algorithms on there own that google is based on as I understand, I think that’s pretty innovative no? Did they acquire google maps? And gmail? Where did they buy that from?

What does Ericsson have to do with a story about Apple? And I already said Google invented Search. If you want to see the list, it's right here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Alphabet

I don't buy the idea that acquiring companies means you're not innovative. It's just a way for people to bash Apple by claiming (incorrectly) that they buy everything, therefore they don't create anything or aren't innovative. If we use this as a measure of innovation, then Google is the least innovative (since they buy the most companies).

Apple acquired several companies related to chip design (like P.A. Semi and Intrinsity). Along with several key hires they put together a world class chip design team that now makes the outstanding A Series processors. That's innovation - recognizing the talents and capabilities of smaller companies and adding them to your own to make something much more impressive than they would ever have done on their own.

 

[sinsin07]

Ok, it’s an opinion if Samsung is copying Apple too.

First thing you got right.

Post a link to a none Apple site where they claim Samsung is copying Apple, don’t post google search results which are actually against the forum rules anyway..

Shifting the deck chairs?
First you say there are not many stories, now you want links posted from non Apple sites.

Strange how you will claim Samsung are copying Apple for something Apple never invented,

Where did I claim Samsung copied Apple?

Did they acquire google maps? And gmail? Where did they buy that from?

Dag, this information is easily found:
Google Maps[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Maps
"Google Maps began as a C++ desktop program designed by Lars and Jens Eilstrup Rasmussen at Where 2 Technologies. In October 2004, the company was acquired by Google, which converted it into a web application. After additional acquisitions of a geospatial data visualization company and a realtime traffic analyzer, Google Maps was launched in February 2005"

Gmail was in house. However not clear why that is mentioned. There was Yahoo and Hotmail long before Gmail came along.

Just a suggestion, don't get hung up on "invented".
It's an argument that never has any winner.

 

[FrozenInferno]

Well Apple 'copied' wireless charging and OLED, so let's call it even.

 

[skitidetdu]

Only thing missing is the removal of the headphone jack

 

[bpp85]

I don’t know why Samsung copies even the gimmick features of iOS, Animojis are not even that popular so why waste time on something so unimportant?

 

[warp9]

Wait a minute, apple didn't create this. Apple copied this from what was already being done in the MOVIE industry. Apple was just the first to add it to a phone.

It's worse than that. It was in a five year old $10 Steam app called FaceRig, and that is just a gui for a face-recognition API (that's also used in movies) that's been kicking around for ages.

 

[Tech198]

Follow the Animoji's

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Is anybody else surprised such a rubbish feature is being copied? Surely there are apps that come close to this anyway?

 

[apolloa]

What does Ericsson have to do with a story about Apple? And I already said Google invented Search. If you want to see the list, it's right here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Alphabet

I don't buy the idea that acquiring companies means you're not innovative. It's just a way for people to bash Apple by claiming (incorrectly) that they buy everything, therefore they don't create anything or aren't innovative. If we use this as a measure of innovation, then Google is the least innovative (since they buy the most companies).

Apple acquired several companies related to chip design (like P.A. Semi and Intrinsity). Along with several key hires they put together a world class chip design team that now makes the outstanding A Series processors. That's innovation - recognizing the talents and capabilities of smaller companies and adding them to your own to make something much more impressive than they would ever have done on their own.

Well opinions varie....

And it’s very confusing if your going to quote me, then refer to another company, in this case google, and then question then I talk about another company.

I don’t consider buying someone else’s tech and then moline ting it into your own device as innovation, just seeing something that’s useful and buying it. Recognising talents isn’t really being innovative, just business.

 

[nephi80]

Everyone bashing Samsung here, be smart. You can be apple fans without being blind. Apple stole the technology and name from an app that was on the app store. They admitted this. They tried buying animoji first, but the company said they weren't for sale. So, apple just ripped them off and used the name and technology anyways. Once again, they admitted this. They said they weren't concerned with legal fees as the outcome would make them more than patent or licensing fees. Why is anyone who genuinely cares about apple and good products not concerned about this abuse?!

 

[apolloa]

More research on your part might be beneficial.

This is just 9 of the top companies Samsung purchased.
Please note, some are related or have mobile applications, some don't:
January 2018: Top 9 Companies Owned by Samsung
Here's another:
Samsung buys Harman - here's what it'll mean for your next car, phone, and more
And another:
Samsung acquires Viv, a next-gen AI assistant built by the creators of Apple’s Siri
I'll leave it to you to find out more on Samsung acquisitions.

Firstly, if your the one making the claim you can provide the proof to back it up. Why should ‘I’ go and find out if their are any facts to back it up? Your the one making the argument. I also never mentioned anything about Samsung in relation to my comment, I haven’t stated they haven’t bought anyone at all, I just requested to know how google has bought other companies.

First thing you got right.

Shifting the deck chairs?
First you say there are not many stories, now you want links posted from non Apple sites.
What's the matter? Google not working on that side of the pond?

Where did I claim Samsung copied Apple?


Dag, this information is easily found:
Google Maps[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Maps
"Google Maps began as a C++ desktop program designed by Lars and Jens Eilstrup Rasmussen at Where 2 Technologies. In October 2004, the company was acquired by Google, which converted it into a web application. After additional acquisitions of a geospatial data visualization company and a realtime traffic analyzer, Google Maps was launched in February 2005"

Gmail was in house. However not clear why that is mentioned. There was Yahoo and Hotmail long before Gmail came along.

Just a suggestion, don't get hung up on "invented".
It's an argument that never has any winner.

FYI:

Instructing other members to search. Instructing members to search themselves for an answer or responses such as ****** ("**************************") are experienced as rude and condescending. We don't have an issue with people linking to Google search results, although we prefer that members also link to a specific page that addresses the question being posed. A few words explaining how you got your search results makes your response even more helpful

http://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201265337-Forum-Rules

Your tone is coming across as a bit arrogant I have to say and for no reason either. Why should I reply?

You seem to be replying on behalf of the other member I responded to and getting confused in the process. Perhaps you should just reply to your line of conversation?

And invention is innovation.

 

[Coffee50]

While I don't personally use the Animoji feature, I wouldn't call it useless. This appears to be the first step in getting people into AR/VR (in mainstream manner). This is a function that's actually available on the phone that many people probably wouldn't have access to otherwise.

How many VR sets, glasses & gear are really out there being purchased by the general public vs the amount of phones people purchase.

While what's presented (the Animoji) might seem like a "useless gimmick", it comes across as putting a specific type of tech in the device & the Animoji is the example they're using to showcase this.

It doesn't bother me at all (and I don't use it). In fact that are many features & functions that are incorporated in the device that people may not use (i.e Apple Pay / Apple Cash, etc.) it doesn't mean that someone else doesn't find a use for it or there isn't a bigger plan for it.

Perhaps the marketing for it went overboard, yet, I see this being about the capabilities more than the actual animojis.

 

[sinsin07]

Firstly, if your the one making the claim you can provide the proof to back it up.

I did not make a claim. I was responding to your statement: "And I didn’t see many other stories claiming they were copying Apple."
Ok on the rules issue. My apologies, the offending item was removed even though it was question, not an instruction.

You seem to be replying on behalf of the other member I responded to and getting confused in the process. Perhaps you should just reply to your line of conversation.

There is no need to be in doubt. I was making an add on to another poster's item. You asked about Gmail and Maps. Didn't realize the response should be limited to one poster.
In regard to the confusion:

It’s rather confusing keeping up with how you lot pertain someone copying Apple or not....

Not clear why you included me in on that, I never made that claim.

And invention is innovation.

Thanks for stating it, not clear why as that was never in dispute on my end.

Google and Samsung were mentioned because of this statement by you:
"Clearly it’s when a company actually invents something. Not like Apple just buys everything.."
They were mentioned only to show that it's not only Apple.
If you didn't tag that on there would be no need to show additional information.

 

[Black Tiger]

Ugh, is this really where we are in technology? Something as dumb as animoji is such a huge headlining feature that everyone copies it and it makes headlines? Let's get real. Animoji is something that most people use once or twice, get sick of the gimmick, then never use it again.

I guess people got sick of "oh look, they used a different color paint this time!", so they had to come up with something else equally mundane.

The dumbing down of the world continues

I see that the anti-fun police are out in droves today.
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This is what people call innovation these days?

Smartphones have always been nothing much more than glorified toys. So it makes sense.

 

[aevan]

Did I wake up in some dystopian future? This is the point of spending $1,000 on a phone and paying $200/month ($2,400/year) for stupid cartoon faces? Yikes! Is there any tech out there that does something useful anymore?

No one in their right mind pays $1000 for cartoon faces and you know it. With iPhone X, people are paying for a next-gen iPhone with a beautiful edge-to-edge screen and amazing facial mapping tech used in advanced biometric security that is really useful. Animoji is a cute and fun use of that technology. Lighten up.

 

[fullauto]

S-moji incoming

 

[DeepIn2U]

Samsung really have no shame.......

.... like come up with something original yourself.....

but they did ... it's called S-Moji

 

[Heltik]

I'd be lion if I said that looks like anything other than a copy cat to me.

Samsung's upcoming Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9 Plus will reportedly copy one of the iPhone X's most popular new features: Animoji.

Korean website ETNews claims the flagship smartphones will have a new 3D emoji function that is "more advanced" than Animoji. Like on the iPhone X, users will be able to choose from various 3D characters, including animals, that mimic facial movements as tracked by the Galaxy S9's facial recognition sensors.

Samsung should reveal the name of its Animoji competitor when the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9 Plus are unveiled at Mobile World Congress on February 25. Many details about the smartphones have already leaked, including entire images of the devices shared by Evan Blass, hinting at many features that can be expected.

While rumors suggest the next major version of Android will include support for smartphones with a so-called notched design, like the iPhone X, it appears that the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9 Plus will retain slim bezels along the top and bottom of the display for the front camera, microphone, and sensors.

3D emojis will be powered by the Galaxy S9's facial recognition system, which is expected to remain less secure than Face ID on the iPhone X. Other biometric options will include a rear fingerprint sensor and an iris scanner.

Samsung is rumored to release the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9 on Friday, March 16, with pre-orders expected to begin about two weeks prior.

Article Link: Samsung's Galaxy S9 Expected to Copy iPhone X's Animoji Feature

 

[ackmondual]

Let's get one thing out of the way... remember, Apple "copied" Samsung's larger screens, so they're still on par with each other

Ugh, is this really where we are in technology? Something as dumb as animoji is such a huge headlining feature that everyone copies it and it makes headlines? Let's get real. Animoji is something that most people use once or twice, get sick of the gimmick, then never use it again.

I guess people got sick of "oh look, they used a different color paint this time!", so they had to come up with something else equally mundane.

On one hand, it'd be nice to have stuff like holograms, 25+ hour battery lives, and... well, to be frank, do YOU have any suggestions (being totally genuine here b/c I'm at loss as well).

OTOH, they may not be able to do any of those things since they're still in R&D, or not even entered it. In this case, this is how you sell products. It's like comparing a Honda vs. a Toyota. It seems petty to compare which as better leather seats and bumper cams, but truth is, both their respective fuel efficiencies given similar vehicle classes, engine reliability, performance, etc. are close enough that it comes down to the tie breakers.

In fact, folks have commented how these days, Android and iOS are the "same difference". You'll have some differences in exclusive apps on each platform, as well as hardware, and UX. But at the end of the day, there are quite a few people who could get done what they need to on either platform without much fuss.