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Odd how they leave out what I think is the iPads largest weakness, the fake backgrounding and refreshing/resetting of apps. Honestly just this jankiness alone keeps this from being a viable OS for myself. I haven't used a Samsung tablet in a while so I'm not sure if Samsung/Android does the same thing on their side. Even the highest iPad Pro does this, it drives me nuts and keeps me firmly planted on my Surface Pro. Oh, and also having user accounts, both Windows and Android have this.
 
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A notch on the side?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *breathe* hahahahahahahahahahahna
Lmao!!!

Imagine using it in portrait mode, not a good look.
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This is a really tired argument. Android isn’t a problem anymore.

On tablets, it's still a huge problem. You want either Windows or iPadOS, because there just aren't a lot of good tablet apps for Android. You simply don't get the equivalents of Photoshop, Pixelmator, Procreate, Linea, or the Affinity suite. (Krita is nice but not the same class.)

And I don't think Google cares any more. For office productivity, they have ChromeOS instead, for consumer stuff, Android is plenty good enough, and for pro use? Well, they've lost that battle and have moved on.
 
Macrumors, please get this author an editor! "The iPadOS operating system could offer a better desktop experience, but it still outshines Samsung's Android-based tablet software. Apps don't always work properly, the scale is off, and there are several other issues." So is it iPadOS or Samsung's Android where the "Apps don't always work properly...:?
And: "...but it's still not a full computer replacement, much like the iPad Pro." - so is the iPad Pro still not a full computer replacement, much like the Samsung, or is the iPad Pro a full desktop replacement?
A good editor could clear up the ambiguous language so the reader knows what the reviewer is saying rather than the reader having to make guesses.
 
Doesn't run iPadOS, so it's pretty much gimped out of the box. If it had a Windows 11 option, then might be worth it.

And didn't Samsung rip into Apple about notches on a smartphone... and they have one on a tablet?
Android is better in many ways than iPadOS though. I see you haven't used Android at all.
 
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Doesn't run iPadOS, so it's pretty much gimped out of the box. If it had a Windows 11 option, then might be worth it.

And didn't Samsung rip into Apple about notches on a smartphone... and they have one on a tablet?
There is Windows 11 option, Asus Z13.
 
I’m typing this on my M1 iPad Pro 12.9” with the new magic keyboard. It’s an amazing machine, and I’ve grown to really like it, but it’s still limited by iPadOS. I’m hoping and praying that the next iteration of iPadOS really “opens this tablet up” so it can take advantage of the power that’s under the hood. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
 
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I prefer iPad. Maybe Apple would launch a bigger iPad in the future. But definitely the price will be much higher than the starting price of Tab S8 Ultra.
 
Re: "Samsung is breaking ground on the tablet notch front" -- I don't recall anyone asking for a chunk of their screen to be rendered unusable. It was a horrible idea when it was introduced on the iPhone. It was absolutely stupid to have added it to the MacBook Pro, which forces users to move windows around to see obscured content. That's detrimental to anyone's workflow.

Stick a tiny forehead on it, move the Face ID array there, and get rid of the freaking notch already. It provides literally no benefit whatsoever to the user. And, no, "design statements" should never win out over functionality. Or did everyone already forget when the MacBook Pro was turned into a regular MacBook for several years due to "design statements"?
 
Android is better in many ways than iPadOS though. I see you haven't used Android at all.
I played with this devices previous incarnation just a few months ago, and I'll maintain that Android is still pretty dreadful. It's better than what it was a few years ago sure, but I still don't think the overall ecosystem is anywhere near the quality offered by iOS or most Windows devices. That's my opinion though, obviously everyone is entitled to their own.
 
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It most certainly is a problem on tablets. Apps are glitchy and under optimized, the tablet multitasking is dogwater, and the layout doesn’t make good use of the bigger screen. It’s also a Samsung device, meaning updates will come months — if not years — late and only 2 yearly refreshes, compared to Apple that is rarely even late by 30 mins and offers a good 5-6 years of consistent updates.

The only tablet I ever bought is a Samsung which was near the top of their lineup at the time. A "Pro S" model. I bought it because it could do more. Had a built in GPS, built in IR transmitter, and could sideload so I could installed emulators, etc... I tried those things a couple of times and never used them again, so in the end they didn't matter much, and I didn't end up liking the Android ecosystem.

Also it NEVER got an official Android update. Not even one.

If I ever buy another Tablet, it will have Windows or iPadOS, and it definitely won't be from Samsung.
 
Priced starting at $899.99 for 128GB of storage and 8GB RAM, the Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra is more affordable than the $1,099 128GB 12.9-inch iPad Pro
Where is it $899.99 for the 128GB w/ 8GB of RAM? Granted, I did not search very hard, but my ver cursory search showed it at the same $1099 as the iPad Pro.
ETA: Samsung direct has it for $899 WITH a trade-in. At the same price as an 11"IPP that is a hard pass from me.
 
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This is a really tired argument. Android isn’t a problem anymore. If you have any experience with some of the latest android devices, you’d know that it’s actually pretty fluid and secure. The only gripe that someone might raise, it’s just it doesn’t match the longevity of software updates that Apple does.

But just because it’s ‘Android’, doesn’t make it less any other desirable to the consumer. It really comes down to choice of platform of what somebody prefers.
He did not state the reason for not wanting Android, so you can't say it's a tired argument, because it was not an argument at all. You said, "It really comes down to choice of platform of what somebody prefers." So maybe he prefers iOS, and that is why he said "Too bad it runs Android." If so, then according to you that's valid. There are also other reasons why one might say "Too bad it runs Android." What if my laptop and phone are from Apple, then I might want my tablet to be in the same ecosystem. So I'd say "Too bad it runs Android." It does not necessarily mean a criticism of Android itself, which you assume.
 
In the article it says "Android device makers have not mastered technology equivalent to Face ID" That is not true!!
Next to all my Apple stuff I also use an old Pixel 4. According to iMore it's Face ID system is nearly identical (+ a few extra's) to Face ID from Apple. Google provides the api's. Some apps use it, a lot don't.
 
My Ultra arrived yesterday. I had the Tab S7 and got a really good upgrade deal. I wanted it solely for watching movies and TV shows. I also own the iPad Pro 12.9". After a day's use I can say that the increased size makes the movie watching experience hugely more immersive. It occupies a field of view similar to that of a very large TV or movie screen. The iPad Pro doesn't quite do that. The OLED black levels and colors are nicer as well. It doesn't have that weird blooming and off-axis ghosting you get with the iPad. On the downside, it is significantly dimmer. Maybe it is a software issue, but some shows are much darker than they should be.

For anything other than watching content or playing games with a controller I find the Samsung tablets to be vastly inferior to the iPad. You get poor touch responses, badly optimized apps, unintuitive UI design, ugly fonts on websites and janky scrolling, even on this, the most powerful Android tablet yet.
 
Lmao!!!

Imagine using it in portrait mode, not a good look. View attachment 1974413
Depends on how you use it. For my work I use a lot of documents. Using my Pro M1 (11") in landscape mode, docs are easier to read. But, 9 out of 10 times I block the Face ID camera because I'm holding it in my left hand.
 
badly optimized apps,

I fully agree IOS has a lot more iPad optimized app. A few weeks ago I bought my Pro M1. Appr. half of the apps I installed also were badly optimized. Paypal, only iPhone sized screen. my weather app (weerplaza), only iPhone sized screen. My banking app, blown up iPhone screen (large unused whitespaces), Patreon, blown up images (almost full screen). My dictionary, only iPhone sized screen. I know, it's up to the developers, but I was a bit disappointed.
 
Re: "Samsung is breaking ground on the tablet notch front" -- I don't recall anyone asking for a chunk of their screen to be rendered unusable.

The only reason the iPad Pro doesn't have a notch is that it has a thicker bezel instead. Which in this case may be the better tradeoff: it offers more grippable area, and the notch looks rather awkward when it's on the side, as is often the case on an iPad (much more so than on an iPhone).

It was a horrible idea when it was introduced on the iPhone.

It doesn't bother me. Most days, I don't even notice it.

It was absolutely stupid to have added it to the MacBook Pro, which forces users to move windows around to see obscured content.

That isn't even remotely how the notch works. It eats into the menu bar. Windows can't be that far up.

And besides, the alternative to a notch isn't more space for windows. It's less space for windows, as the menu bar would have to be further down.

Stick a tiny forehead on it, move the Face ID array there, and get rid of the freaking notch already.

A tiny forehead with the array in? You're… describing the notch?

 
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