Samsung's Lawyers Demand to See iPhone 5 and iPad 3

[barberio]

My 3GS was bought new in 2009. It was replaced in an Apple store a little before the warranty ran out for a refurb after the mute switch gave out. It's all original.

Call bull all you like, it doesn't particularly scream "more quality!" to me. It looks just like every other phone.

The buttons are hardly chrome paint on plastic. And well, sure, you can compare the supposedly superior Galaxy S II to an older previous generation phone that you had a single bad experience with.

Oh, and I do apologise, the Galaxy S II does have glass on it's screen. Shame it's only a WXGA resolution, and is inset in all that plastic. But I'm sure that's still 'comparable' build quality to an iPhone 4 somehow.

 

[ChrisTX]

That must have been very uninformed people then. Because I would have said the the Sony Ericsson P800 … P990i (depending which year you ask) would be the Smartphone to beat.

2002:

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And when did the iPhone came out? Yep, 2007. I would say that the phones above put a damper on the legend that the iPhone was the first all touch screen phone.

The one thing that the iPhone had was better marketing and a (for the time) super slim design.

I'm not so sure that any of those phones were as popular as the N95 though. The N95 had a bigger HD, and better media controls than the devices you listed which made it more consumer friendly.

 

[dukebound85]

The buttons are hardly chrome paint on plastic.

According to ifixit, it is plastic...

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iPhone-3GS-Volume-Button/4490/1

 

[C00rDiNaT0r]

That must have been very uninformed people then. Because I would have said the the Sony Ericsson P800 … P990i (depending which year you ask) would be the Smartphone to beat.

2002:

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2003:

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2004:

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2006:

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And when did the iPhone came out? Yep, 2007. I would say that the phones above put a damper on the legend that the iPhone was the first all touch screen phone.

The one thing that the iPhone had was better marketing and a (for the time) super slim design.

I bought the P800 when it first came out. I used it for 4 years before it crashed and I couldn't restore. It was limited by the technology available at its time, but it was a very decent phone.

 

[kdarling]

Agreed, but it you look back at the Keynote from 2007, notice the crowds reaction as simple features we take for granted now such as

You can always wow a group with no knowledge in a field. My handheld touch design group kept waiting in vain for something unique to appear.

"slide to unlock" were shown, or double tap, or pinch to zoom were shown. People take these things for granted because every phone has them now, but no one had them prior to the original iPhone.

Slide to unlock was on the all touch NeoNode in 2002.

Double tap was on at least one mobile web browser available on WinMo and other OSes before the iPhone. I used it all the time.

Multi-touch pinch was announced (but not delivered) for another phone a couple of months before the iPhone was shown off.

Apple definitely deserves a lot of credit for bringing together so many already known things in such a nice way, but it was coming sooner or later.

2006 was the year of touch phone R&D projects being shown off. I'm convinced that the major reason why Apple showed off the iPhone so early in 2007, was because they feared what might be displayed at the annual phone shows that came a few weeks later, and did not want to be seen as second in line to anyone. As it turned out, they need not have worried so much.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Show me yours and I'll show you mine!! LOL!!

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The first touchscreen phone that didn't suck.

It was as if those other science fair projects didn't even exist before the iPhone. THAT is how good Apple's implementation was. Who cares about who tried it first.

Just to point out the biggest change around the time of the iPhone release was capative multi touch screens were finally cost effective to use. Before that they just cost way to much to use. Apple just jump on board right when they were becoming possible to use.
Of course I love how you try to dismiss everything with your standard BS when some of the stuff date back to 2002. But then again you do worship at the church of Apple so facts be damned for you.

 

[un.titled]

Just to point out the biggest change around the time of the iPhone release was capative multi touch screens were finally cost effective to use. Before that they just cost way to much to use. Apple just jump on board right when they were becoming possible to use.
Of course I love how you try to dismiss everything with your standard BS when some of the stuff date back to 2002. But then again you do worship at the church of Apple so facts be damned for you.

You shouldn't flame other users. It's alright to have an opinion different from somebody else, but there is no need to sling insults here.

 

[MRU]

No regrets until the next iPhone is announced. Every year more and more people say the same thing, and as soon as the next iPhone is announced, everyone always comes running back. This year will be no different. Expect a "...One more thing!" at WWDC this year.

Actually maybe, maybe not. If anything it has proven to me I can live without iOS on a phone ( I have an iPad 2 anyway).

If the rumors of iPhone 4S are true, I'll probably skip the whole iPhone thing until we get a truly radical new redesign. I can't tell you the frustrations I have had with the iPhone 4 with the phones most important aspect 'it's calls'...

The Galaxy S 2 is a great piece of kit and whilst I have reservations and frustrations over Android Marketplace, syncing to a Mac generally etc.. It has been exceptional as a 'phone' and that matters the most to me at the moment.

 

[dukebound85]

You shouldn't flame other users. It's alright to have an opinion different from somebody else, but there is no need to sling insults here.

Everything done by Apple gets his praise and everything else gets slammed. I mean everything lol. It gets old

 

[the8thark]

You shouldn't flame other users. It's alright to have an opinion different from somebody else, but there is no need to sling insults here.

Each side has their fanbois. And the winner is which side's fanbois scream the loudest. It's always been like that. Competition of the fanbois. People with smart intelligent comments just get lost in a sea of fanboism.

Edit: That feels a little sexist. As I'm sure there is fangirls on both sides too.

 

[un.titled]

Everything done by Apple gets his praise and everything else gets slammed. I mean everything lol. It gets old

Each side has their fanbois. And the winner is which side's fanbois scream the loudest. It's always been like that. Competition of the fanbois. People with smart intelligent comments just get lost in a sea of fanboism.

I guess I just don't understand the need to get mad over such a topic.

 

[*LTD*]

J Apple just jump on board

It's amazing how they keep doing that.

 

[0007776]

Apple simply have to say they have no set plans for an iPhone 5 or iPhone 4GS yet, and the court isn't in a position to say otherwise.

of course then if they go ahead and release an iPhone anything soon whoever said that would probably be arrested for perjury since it would be easy enough to prove that Apple had no way of getting to market that fast without already having plans.

 

[roadbloc]

Well, when they *do* do wrong, I'm sure we'll hear of it.

We did do. The iPhone 4 antenna. Jobs can say what he wants, out of all the phones I've owned, it is the worst for signal.

The first touchscreen phone that didn't suck.

Are you nuts? You are joking right?

 

[ChrisTX]

You can always wow a group with no knowledge in a field.

Really only commenting on this first bit as I don't doubt the other points you listed, but assume they weren't wisely used by anyone.

But back to what I initially intended to comment on, I assume the people Apple invited to the 2007 iPhone keynote had to be more than just the press, but maybe other folks involved in the technology field in some way that weren't completely ignorant to the world outside of Apple.

 

[the8thark]

I guess I just don't understand the need to get mad over such a topic.

I'm not mad. I'm just stating the facts. And I quite enjoy reading how each side tries to prove their side of the argument. Very entertaining.

 

[krischik]

The first touchscreen phone that didn't suck.

That is your opinion. I find iOS rather limiting.

It was as if those other science fair projects didn't even exist before the iPhone. THAT is how good Apple's implementation was. Who cares about who tried it first.

Correction: THAT is how good Apple's marketing was and still is.

The Sony Ericsson P990i had Multitasking, MMS and all the other cool stuff which only came with iOS 4. Actually, the P800 from 2002 had Multitasking and MMS.

 

[ChrisTX]

Actually maybe, maybe not. If anything it has proven to me I can live without iOS on a phone ( I have an iPad 2 anyway).

If the rumors of iPhone 4S are true, I'll probably skip the whole iPhone thing until we get a truly radical new redesign. I can't tell you the frustrations I have had with the iPhone 4 with the phones most important aspect 'it's calls'...

The Galaxy S 2 is a great piece of kit and whilst I have reservations and frustrations over Android Marketplace, syncing to a Mac generally etc.. It has been exceptional as a 'phone' and that matters the most to me at the moment.

I think the greater appeal of Apple devices is that they evolve at a semi slower pace than that of Android devices. Everyone always wants the "latest and greatest", but no one wants their phone to feel outdated 3 months later because the next phone is being announced. At least with the iPhone it stands valid for a year, where as Android devices seem to get updated every week.

 

[krischik]

I'm not so sure that any of those phones were at popular as the N95 though.

How very true. At the time Sony Ericsson marketing department was all busy selling Walkman and Cypershot phones.

 

[un.titled]

I'm not mad. I'm just stating the facts. And I quite enjoy reading how each side tries to prove their side of the argument. Very entertaining.

That wasn't directed towards you. There is nothing wrong with a debate, I just don't like seeing insults that cause the degradation of a topic happen. Whatever side of the debate somebody is standing on.

 

[un.titled]

I think the greater appeal of Apple devices is that they evolve at a semi slower pace than that of Android devices.

I feel it's a lot easier to keep track of iOS devices as well. The market has become quite saturated with android devices.

 

[ChrisTX]

I feel it's a lot easier to keep track of iOS devices as well. The market has become quite saturated with android devices.

Exactly, and as long as we have to keep signing 2 and in some cases 3 year contracts, I like knowing that at least the device I own won't be outdated faster than my contract will allow.

 

[Juan007]

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This just shows the desperation of Samsung... They know they can't compete with Apple so they need to steal iPhone 5 design. Yeah like that has a chance of happening. Try innovating instead of stealing designs next time.

 

[*LTD*]

That is your opinion. I find iOS rather limiting.



Correction: THAT is how good Apple's marketing was and still is.

The Sony Ericsson P990i had Multitasking, MMS and all the other cool stuff which only came with iOS 4. Actually, the P800 from 2002 had Multitasking and MMS.

Apple's multitouch tech and their implementation of it made everything that came before look and feel extremely primitive, including whatever was out there even a year later from the iPhone's first release. Apple *still* has superior multitouch technology. Partly because it's a closed platform. OS designed for the hardware and vice-versa. You can't get that with a universally-licensed OS.

 

[un.titled]

Exactly, and as long as we have to keep signing 2 and in some cases 3 year contracts, I like knowing that at least the device I own won't be outdated faster than my contract will allow.

I personally don't worry about being outdated (hardware wise), I'm more worried about support and sofware updates for the device I'm purchasing. The hardware in most smart-phones/tablets is plenty for my use, but the software can be lacking between devices. I know the iPhone and iPad are not leaving the market anytime soon, so I feel comfortable in purchasing the device because I know I'll receive support, updates, and compatible software through the app store for the life of the device. I'm worried about some devices, especially tablets. I seen a blackberry and acer tablet out on the market, and even though they look decent (the blackberry has a really nice screen), I'm worried about acer support down the line (they might pull out of the market), and I'm worried about the blackberry app store being up-to-date.