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palmerc2

macrumors 68000
Feb 29, 2008
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Samsung should really stick to making TVs...in my opinion they're the best on the market. Phones + Tablets may be out of their league.
 

Shanpdx

macrumors 68030
Sep 24, 2008
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Blazer town!
Apple buddy Intel

this one of the reason, apple is looking at Intel for manufacturing ARM Chips ...

well until Intel starts copying Apple and releasing prototypes phones :D

who is copying copy who?
 

joeviddy

macrumors newbie
May 28, 2011
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Apple could potentially really lose out here because even though just the lawyers will see the future products, they would still relay the info to Samsung's people and they could gain a competitive advantage by being to market with the same features as Apple at the same time. Hopefully the court sees it this way too.

Actually, if that happened there would be severe penalties imposed on counsel. I don't think they would do that. These people are smart and respectable.
 

Shanpdx

macrumors 68030
Sep 24, 2008
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Blazer town!
i really hope this stops now and both companies go back to produce good products ...

Apple never going to be in the low end of the market whether it is PC, Phone or iPad(s)...

you need other plays like Samsung, HTC and others to manufacture for the lower end of the market ...
 

iGobbleoff

macrumors 6502
May 2, 2011
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its like they are admitting they are copying apple

"ok, so we copied iphone4 and ipad2, but can we see iphone5 and ipad3 just in case we do it again?"
 

InsanelyApple

macrumors 6502
Oct 26, 2010
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Oh, dear.

"Sometimes corporations remind me of little kids arguing on the playground. Except more than lunch money is involved."--Doctor Q
 

PlipPlop

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Aug 10, 2010
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i really hope this stops now and both companies go back to produce good products ...

Apple never going to be in the low end of the market whether it is PC, Phone or iPad(s)...

you need other plays like Samsung, HTC and others to manufacture for the lower end of the market ...

HTC and Samsung also offer very high end phones which are superior to the ageing iphone, such as the Sensation and Galaxy 2.
 

0815

macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2010
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here and there but not over there
They want to see the prototype so that they can prepare to defend against possible law suits from Apple ???? I mean, if they wanted to sue Apple that would make sense ...

Ok, I'm torn between thinking that is childish or genius ... on one hand it looks like that have no arguments what so ever and just want to scream back, but on the other hand they might want to show that apple sues for no reason, so they want to prepare ...
 

Don Kosak

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2010
860
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Hilo, Hawaii
Well, there is a big cultural difference as well here. It's probably not as simple as some folks are interpreting this.

Having worked for a Korean company for quite a number of years, there are big differences in approaches for business and legal matters. Korea has a rich culture and if you look back in history they've had well organized bureaucracies for hundreds of years. Their legal precedents are different than ours.
 

lilo777

macrumors 603
Nov 25, 2009
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Samsung should really stick to making TVs...in my opinion they're the best on the market. Phones + Tablets may be out of their league.

Yeah, their phones are total failure even though according to Unwired View "Launched in the UK earlier this month, the new Samsung Galaxy S II has quickly become the country’s most popular smartphone. Just like we told you it happened in South Korea, the Galaxy S II is outselling Apple’s iPhone 4 in the UK, too."
 
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Weak.

Really, Samsung?

You were already ordered to produce your knockoffs to Apple. THIS is your response??

Youre joking right? This is total tit for tat...after Apple's allowance to review unreleased Samsung HW. Oh, but it was Apple the first time...so you didnt care.

I dont think either party has a legitimate claim to each other's unreleased products. If the next Galaxy Phone infringes on Apple copyrights(or vice versa), seek damages accordingly.
 

BLACKFRIDAY

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May 23, 2011
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Youre joking right? This is total tit for tat...after Apple's allowance to review unreleased Samsung HW. Oh, but it was Apple the first time...so you didnt care.

I dont think either party has a legitimate claim to each other's unreleased products. If the next Galaxy Phone infringes on Apple copyrights(or vice versa), seek damages accordingly.

Please read the article again.
 

Consultant

macrumors G5
Jun 27, 2007
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Dear Samsung simpletons,

Apple isn't advertising iPhone 5 or iPad 3, nor copying your product designs wholesale.
 

wordoflife

macrumors 604
Jul 6, 2009
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That's pretty low. And does Samsung think that Apple is going to copy Samsung's design that was criticized for copying Apple in the first place?
 

0815

macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2010
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Youre joking right? This is total tit for tat...after Apple's allowance to review unreleased Samsung HW. Oh, but it was Apple the first time...so you didnt care.

I dont think either party has a legitimate claim to each other's unreleased products. If the next Galaxy Phone infringes on Apple copyrights(or vice versa), seek damages accordingly.

There is one big difference:

case1: Apple wants to see Samsung hardware to proof that they copy stuff (best on iPhone4/iPad2)

case2: Samsung wants to see Apple hardware to prepare to defend a potential law suit by Apple that Samsung is copying Apple (based on iPhone5/iPad3)

case1 is very typical if a company wants to proof copy cats - case2 is very unusual and either funny or genius (to make the point that case1 is pointless)
 

ten-oak-druid

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Jan 11, 2010
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LOL

Samsung wants to avoid having to "rethink" their next products.

It is a shame Apple has to do this. The galaxy tablet is failed product. Why would anyone expect version 2 to be a success? I guess if they can see the next model ipad and get a head start then version 3 might have a chance.
 

domness

macrumors 6502a
Jan 14, 2008
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Sheffield, UK
Although childish, I'm not surprised. I'd want to have a look into Apple's products before they are released ;) In all seriousness, I suppose Samsung are just a bit annoyed seen as their product really isn't a "rip of the iPhone", just a better spec product. Maybe Apple are just annoyed that Google sided with Samsung for the Nexus.
 

0815

macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2010
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One question, if only 'external lawyers' are allowed to the the prototypes of 'the other' company - how the hell do those lawyers decide what was copied or not - I would assume those have not the technical background and company internal information to make an educated decision, I mean, a more technical person with internal knowledge from each company would be required for that - but that person would no longer be allowed to work on the new version ....
 

hayesk

macrumors 65816
May 20, 2003
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Haha. Good for Samsung. Very smart response. Obviously I still side with apple here, but i think they could use a taste of their own arrogance once in awhile.

No, it's a pretty stupid response. Samsung has already publicly discussed and demoed their products.
 
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