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well, small is avery relative term, but for many reasons, you can't say XS is small, first one is the first iPhone came out was 3,5" so, XS is comparatively larger, second, you can't handle it properly with the average hand size, and third, there aren´t many larger sizes (in iOS ecosystem) so saying is "small" is far from be accurate. You can say "I would like a bigger iPhone as to me, even large iPhone as XS are still small"

My fav size it's been always iPhone SE and this is my actual iPhone, what is this then? a nano iPhone?
Well I found the X too small when I had it. The SE is dead on arrival to me. Far too small. I wouldn’t even consider it. The last time I was happy to use a phone that small was in 2012. One of the reasons I returned the iPhone 5S and went with the galaxy note 3 in 2014 was because the 5S was just too small.
 
Samsung lacks iOS. So means nothing to me.

It would be interesting if they could make a Hackintosh experience w/ iOS on Android. I know that defeats the purpose of a closed OS, but it would a good way to see if tech savvy folks want the hardware Samsung puts out.

I see this comment about Samsung lacking iOS often. Samsung is actually catering to iOS users by making their OS more fluid and easier to operate. iOS' forte is simplicity and consistency. I like Samsung's One UI and I think it's worth a look at even if it's a display model at a store.
 
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It would be interesting if they could make a Hackintosh experience w/ iOS on Android. I know that defeats the purpose of a closed OS, but it would a good way to see if tech savvy folks want the hardware Samsung puts out.

I see this comment about Samsung lacking iOS often. Samsung is actually catering to iOS users by making their OS more fluid and easier to operate. iOS' forte is simplicity and consistency. I like Samsung's One UI and I think it's worth a look at even if it's a display model at a store.
Obviously everybody enjoys different OS experiences and i know while IOS is damn boring at the moment it works well for what it does as it is generally very smooth when scrolling and flicking between apps it is a good experience doing so.

I can see why people find it hard to leave IOS due to how it runs but the new Samsung one UI is very smooth and the best experience Samsung has given customers and i’m Sure will only get better.
 
Obviously everybody enjoys different OS experiences and i know while IOS is damn boring at the moment it works well for what it does as it is generally very smooth when scrolling and flicking between apps it is a good experience doing so.

I can see why people find it hard to leave IOS due to how it runs but the new Samsung one UI is very smooth and the best experience Samsung has given customers and i’m Sure will only get better.

That's the problem, iOS has such a large foothold that some feel that it's impossible to make the switch without major concessions.

And sadly, there is less incentive for Apple to put more effort because they can get away with a 828p display w/ some marketing jumbo like "Liquid Retina." I don't see them mimicking the features Samsung offers. Like why didn't the XS Max not even have Apple Pencil support to begin with?
 
That's the problem, iOS has such a large foothold that some feel that it's impossible to make the switch without major concessions.

And sadly, there is less incentive for Apple to put more effort because they can get away with a 828p display w/ some marketing jumbo like "Liquid Retina." I don't see them mimicking the features Samsung offers. Like why didn't the XS Max not even have Apple Pencil support to begin with?
Agreed, i mean there’s no excuse the max shouldn’t get access to multasking spilt screen or picture in picture access. There is nothing on the max that really takes advantage of that extra screen which has been the main issue of IOS for a while.

Maybe this changed with IOS 13 but i’m Not holding my breath
 
I got about every second iPhone since the initial one. Unfortunately Apple's quality, features and options have so much degraded, that I will now get the Galaxy S10e. Also I want an headphone jack:

Hopefully, the S10e forces Apple to change up its game for 2020. I don't expect the 2019 iPhone to be anything spectacular because it will end up being a 10SS year.

Apple really needs better multitasking support, Apple Pencil support, better ergonomics w/ size (XS Max feels like a brick vs the S10+), a notchless design, USB C support, a Qualcomm radio, 128gb starting memory capacity, 6gb RAM or more, etc.

If you own a X/XR/XS/XS Max, I would save your $ and don't even get an iPhone 2019 model. I would wait until the 2020 model if you can. If you're on IUP, feel free to upgrade your device at your leisure.

Enjoy your S10e, it's a nice product.
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Agreed, i mean there’s no excuse the max shouldn’t get access to multasking spilt screen or picture in picture access. There is nothing on the max that really takes advantage of that extra screen which has been the main issue of IOS for a while.

Maybe this changed with IOS 13 but i’m Not holding my breath

iOS 13 could be good, but I ran out of patience w/ Apple. I am not waiting for what if's in June w/ WWDC. The company is too lazy.
 
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Hopefully, the S10e forces Apple to change up its game for 2020. I don't expect the 2019 iPhone to be anything spectacular because it will end up being a 10SS year.

Apple really needs better multitasking support, Apple Pencil support, better ergonomics w/ size (XS Max feels like a brick vs the S10+), a notchless design, USB C support, a Qualcomm radio, 128gb starting memory capacity, 6gb RAM or more, etc.

If you own a X/XR/XS/XS Max, I would save your $ and don't even get an iPhone 2019 model. I would wait until the 2020 model if you can. If you're on IUP, feel free to upgrade your device at your leisure.

Enjoy your S10e, it's a nice product.
Yeah nothing that’s rumoured has stuck out so far...reverse power charging will be a good feature for those with air pods and Apple Watch but can’t imagine people would use it loads. Nice to have though.

Heard waterproof display? Only useful if you are on the beach everyday.
 
Yeah nothing that’s rumoured has stuck out so far...reverse power charging will be a good feature for those with air pods and Apple Watch but can’t imagine people would use it loads. Nice to have though.

Heard waterproof display? Only useful if you are on the beach everyday.

I don't think I have a use for reverse wireless charging since I won't have a wearable right now for my phone. If anything, I may get a FitBit or Galaxy Watch in a couple months.
 
I don't think I have a use for reverse wireless charging since I won't have a wearable right now for my phone. If anything, I may get a FitBit or Galaxy Watch in a couple months.
I will be honest i’m Yet to use it on my S10’s plus. When i go on Hoilday i will use it for sure but it’s not something you will use often.
 
I will be honest i’m Yet to use it on my S10’s plus. When i go on Hoilday i will use it for sure but it’s not something you will use often.

I think it's just a feature to just offer something to get people to buy something. A lot of folks will see past the gimmick though. Huawei brought it mainstream. Samsung made it even more mainstream. Now, Apple will bring it and watch the most loyalist fans say it's as good as sliced bread.
 
I think it's just a feature to just offer something to get people to buy something. A lot of folks will see past the gimmick though. Huawei brought it mainstream. Samsung made it even more mainstream. Now, Apple will bring it and watch the most loyalist fans say it's as good as sliced bread.
Oh I’m sure come September it’s going to be great. I’m sure i will use it when i get my galaxy buds. I think it will be useful for that and same with air pods. Wether this feature though is enough for apple to sell the amount of devices they want to is another matter as last year was a poor year for them where customers finally voted with their wallets..I foolishly didn’t as i bought the max but lesson learnt.

Still expect the biggest improvements will be software based but then you don’t need to to upgrade to get those features.
 
I think it's just a feature to just offer something to get people to buy something. A lot of folks will see past the gimmick though. Huawei brought it mainstream. Samsung made it even more mainstream. Now, Apple will bring it and watch the most loyalist fans say it's as good as sliced bread.
This is really bordering on trolling with respect to the comment on Apple. Apple usually don't throw hardware into the phone like Samsung. My guess is the reason they lagged with wireless charging was the airpower. They wanted a product to bring aspects of the ecosystem together. They want more upside than downside with respect to gimmicks. Yeah reverse wireless charging sounds cool, but I wonder about the usefulness overall.

As far as the s10e vs xr, it depends on personal preference. No matter which you choose, you are locked in to something...a topic that has been brought up in previous posts. And customers still voted with their wallets, no matter what the naysayers say. The spin on the $84B...it just wasn't as big as record breaking quarter as apple forecast initally.
 
Taking away the jack didn’t create a problem for me. And yeah I finally knuckled under and bought the AirPods. Absolutely love them. But let’s be clear they are terrific to own and use.
And as soon as you use Samsung Galaxy Buds,Airpods will immediately become the inferior ones.Galaxy Buds simply sound better,last longer and look better.
Also with Samsung you have the option of using Bluetooth or a nice pair of high end awesome sounding wired headphones.
It’s very simple which one is the winner here,U don’t know why you even bother arguing.it’s a loosing argument for you.
 
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And as soon as you use Samsung Galaxy Buds,Airpods will immediately become the inferior ones.Galaxy Buds simply sound better,last longer and look better.
Also with Samsung you have the option of using Bluetooth or a nice pair of high end awesome sounding wired headphones.
It’s very simple which one is the winner here,U don’t know why you even bother arguing.it’s a loosing argument for you.
Not a losing argument as I spend my money as I see fit with my use case as you spend your money where you see fit. As I don’t like the in ear design I wouldn’t buy them anyway.
 
(Long post warning!)

Had my Galaxy S10e a couple of days now, been with Apple since the 3G, including 4, 5, 6, SE and a couple of iPads, of which the 2011 one STILL has far better battery life and nicer screen coating than my newer 2016 iPad Air (despite promises of "efficiency" upgrades) :rolleyes:.

I think it's a 50/50 as to which people will prefer between Apple and this Samsung to be honest. The S10e is obviously physically far more capable than the SE, better screen, speakers, cameras etc and a lot closer comparison to the X which I have limited experience with. In the couple of days I've had it I'm still adjusting to lots of it but here's what I think are the pros and cons (especially vs Apple) so far:


Pros:

Screen: Very nice indeed and on "natural" mode much like the colour balance I'd expect from a good panel (I sometimes calibrate TV's as part of my work), not the expected overblown saturation of old OLED. The near full-sized screen is a great plus, the circular cut-out for the front camera is rarely noticeable except for on widescreen films, a good compromise of form and function.

Speakers: Again very good, not the bassiest and slighty "bright" especially with Dolby Atmos turned on but goes fairly loud and clear, great sense of space and separation considering the size with Atmos on. I'll play with the equalizer at some point to try and improve the balance.

Speed: All very fast and slick with the settings adjusted for minimal animations, Face ID is only about 80% successful even on its less secure setting but it has pin code AND a fingerprint sensor if that's a problem.

Size: This is about as large as I'd like to go with a phone, slightly smaller than the X and noticeably lighter but still feels very solidly built.

File management: I simply put 100+ films on a 128gb Micro SD card and popped it in, I dropped a bunch of music from the PC in the internal storage "Music" folder and that was that. So easy, so quick - a million miles from the needless hassle of iTunes.

Google Assistant: Much better and more comprehensive than Siri, can answer contextual questions well and not locked to internal searches - for example: I said "Play 'And you smiled' by Matt Monro" (random discussion about the theme from British 70's TV Series Van Der Valk with friends FWIW) and it did instantly, from YouTube. I said "Who played the head teacher in Ferris Bueller's", and it replied instantly "Jeffrey Jones", which surprised me as he'd be listed as "Principal" if anything in the credits and I didn't use the full film title. Good stuff.

Camera: I haven't had need for the wide-angle camera yet but can see how it would be useful, I can say the main camera is very good, bright, clear and detailed with good dynamic range. Another unexpected bonus - much like the older iPhones can also take very close up pictures, my SE couldn't focus closer than about 6" but this works right up to the object with great detail. The front camera also has great detail and quality.

Fingerprint sensor: Just because. Nice to have the option.

3.5mm Headphone jack: As above.


Cons:

Battery life: This is the SD855 processor version so should have good battery, after restarting the phone and charging to full this morning, I took it off and left it idle on my desk at 8:15am, picked it up to leave for work at 8:35am and it was at 98%. WTF! My iPhone SE was taken off charge at the same time at 98% and it's now 11:55am and it's still at 98% (I haven't used it but still). That said, the S10e has had light use since and is at 91% more than a few hours later, so idle drain isn't great but usage doesn't greatly impact it either, it may still be "settling in".

App Integration: There is a lot of fiddling and flaff with apps I find, not as easy as with Apple and not everything works in the same way as everything else. I had to download an email client, there is distinction to be made between Play store and Galaxy Store etc.

Bixby assistant: No-one wants this, it has quite a few applications based around it which can't be deleted... So much for all this "customisation" I hear about. I've turned it off where I can to use the Google assistant instead.

AKG headphones: I've seen reviews saying how great these are, nearly as many as I've seen slagging off the "poor" Apple Earpods. They have three sizes of rubber earplug included, you need a perfect and tight fit to get bass, the treble is over-exaggerated. They may be better with Atmos turned on (haven't tried) but the Apple Earpods are very good in my opinion and far better than these. I also have Sennheiser HD600's as a reference (still a little sharp sounding to me) and find I prefer the Earpods at times, very well balanced.


Overall the iPhone is a nicer user experience, the S10e is a technically better device. I'm gradually getting used to it and am sure I'll appreciate it more over time. iOS still tops Android for slickness, even if you can't put widgets on your home screen - something I've never been particularly bothered about. :D

(Close-up image example, taken at around 2")


 
(Long post warning!)

Had my Galaxy S10e a couple of days now, been with Apple since the 3G, including 4, 5, 6, SE and a couple of iPads, of which the 2011 one STILL has far better battery life and nicer screen coating than my newer 2016 iPad Air (despite promises of "efficiency" upgrades) :rolleyes:.

I think it's a 50/50 as to which people will prefer between Apple and this Samsung to be honest. The S10e is obviously physically far more capable than the SE, better screen, speakers, cameras etc and a lot closer comparison to the X which I have limited experience with. In the couple of days I've had it I'm still adjusting to lots of it but here's what I think are the pros and cons (especially vs Apple) so far:


Pros:

Screen: Very nice indeed and on "natural" mode much like the colour balance I'd expect from a good panel (I sometimes calibrate TV's as part of my work), not the expected overblown saturation of old OLED. The near full-sized screen is a great plus, the circular cut-out for the front camera is rarely noticeable except for on widescreen films, a good compromise of form and function.

Speakers: Again very good, not the bassiest and slighty "bright" especially with Dolby Atmos turned on but goes fairly loud and clear, great sense of space and separation considering the size with Atmos on. I'll play with the equalizer at some point to try and improve the balance.

Speed: All very fast and slick with the settings adjusted for minimal animations, Face ID is only about 80% successful even on its less secure setting but it has pin code AND a fingerprint sensor if that's a problem.

Size: This is about as large as I'd like to go with a phone, slightly smaller than the X and noticeably lighter but still feels very solidly built.

File management: I simply put 100+ films on a 128gb Micro SD card and popped it in, I dropped a bunch of music from the PC in the internal storage "Music" folder and that was that. So easy, so quick - a million miles from the needless hassle of iTunes.

Google Assistant: Much better and more comprehensive than Siri, can answer contextual questions well and not locked to internal searches - for example: I said "Play 'And you smiled' by Matt Monro" (random discussion about the theme from British 70's TV Series Van Der Valk with friends FWIW) and it did instantly, from YouTube. I said "Who played the head teacher in Ferris Bueller's", and it replied instantly "Jeffrey Jones", which surprised me as he'd be listed as "Principal" if anything in the credits and I didn't use the full film title. Good stuff.

Camera: I haven't had need for the wide-angle camera yet but can see how it would be useful, I can say the main camera is very good, bright, clear and detailed with good dynamic range. Another unexpected bonus - much like the older iPhones can also take very close up pictures, my SE couldn't focus closer than about 6" but this works right up to the object with great detail. The front camera also has great detail and quality.

Fingerprint sensor: Just because. Nice to have the option.

3.5mm Headphone jack: As above.


Cons:

Battery life: This is the SD855 processor version so should have good battery, after restarting the phone and charging to full this morning, I took it off and left it idle on my desk at 8:15am, picked it up to leave for work at 8:35am and it was at 98%. WTF! My iPhone SE was taken off charge at the same time at 98% and it's now 11:55am and it's still at 98% (I haven't used it but still). That said, the S10e has had light use since and is at 91% more than a few hours later, so idle drain isn't great but usage doesn't greatly impact it either, it may still be "settling in".

App Integration: There is a lot of fiddling and flaff with apps I find, not as easy as with Apple and not everything works in the same way as everything else. I had to download an email client, there is distinction to be made between Play store and Galaxy Store etc.

Bixby assistant: No-one wants this, it has quite a few applications based around it which can't be deleted... So much for all this "customisation" I hear about. I've turned it off where I can to use the Google assistant instead.

AKG headphones: I've seen reviews saying how great these are, nearly as many as I've seen slagging off the "poor" Apple Earpods. They have three sizes of rubber earplug included, you need a perfect and tight fit to get bass, the treble is over-exaggerated. They may be better with Atmos turned on (haven't tried) but the Apple Earpods are very good in my opinion and far better than these. I also have Sennheiser HD600's as a reference (still a little sharp sounding to me) and find I prefer the Earpods at times, very well balanced.


Overall the iPhone is a nicer user experience, the S10e is a technically better device. I'm gradually getting used to it and am sure I'll appreciate it more over time. iOS still tops Android for slickness, even if you can't put widgets on your home screen - something I've never been particularly bothered about. :D

(Close-up image example, taken at around 2")


Fair enough comments.

You said the s10e is a technically better device. Better than what iphone? The SE? How did you come up with the pluses and minuses that make it technically better:
- screen
- battery life
- sd card
- camera?

(granted the ability to move music and videos sans itunes is nice. I hope apple gets there in ios 13)
 
Fair enough comments.

You said the s10e is a technically better device. Better than what iphone? The SE? How did you come up with the pluses and minuses that make it technically better:
- screen
- battery life
- sd card
- camera?

(granted the ability to move music and videos sans itunes is nice. I hope apple gets there in ios 13)

Well yes, it's hard to judge against the X/XS because the sole reason I didn't go for either of them was features being removed, price going up and size/weight getting more than I like for one-handed use so my last iPhones were the 6 and SE. My wife has a 7, I only know one person with an X (a big change from a few years back when most people I know had the latest iPhones). Those same people, for the most part in their 40's don't want massive phones, we use them one-handed and put them in our pockets, not so much for gaming etc.

The technical pluses include the effective fingerprint reader and 3.5mm jack - things removed needlessly from the newer iPhones, it's good to have a back-up and I like being able to open the phone on my desk (where it spends much of the working day) without having to crane my neck over it. I don't like dongles or charging anything I don't need to (headphones). The Oled screen is very good indeed and the camera takes up a minimal amount of it, far less than the "notch". Expandable storage has never been something I've been desperate for, I'd always buy the largest size internal storage but now I don't need to even think about putting a load of films or TV series on the phone for when I'm travelling. I'm sure the iPhone X/XS is as good or even better in some areas, but it's also slightly larger and quite a bit heavier. I paid £500 for the S10e too so whilst preferring smaller phones it didn't sting as much as spending £1000+ for something I didn't really want.
 
Well yes, it's hard to judge against the X/XS because the sole reason I didn't go for either of them was features being removed, price going up and size/weight getting more than I like for one-handed use so my last iPhones were the 6 and SE. My wife has a 7, I only know one person with an X (a big change from a few years back when most people I know had the latest iPhones). Those same people, for the most part in their 40's don't want massive phones, we use them one-handed and put them in our pockets, not so much for gaming etc.

The technical pluses include the effective fingerprint reader and 3.5mm jack - things removed needlessly from the newer iPhones, it's good to have a back-up and I like being able to open the phone on my desk (where it spends much of the working day) without having to crane my neck over it. I don't like dongles or charging anything I don't need to (headphones). The Oled screen is very good indeed and the camera takes up a minimal amount of it, far less than the "notch". Expandable storage has never been something I've been desperate for, I'd always buy the largest size internal storage but now I don't need to even think about putting a load of films or TV series on the phone for when I'm travelling. I'm sure the iPhone X/XS is as good or even better in some areas, but it's also slightly larger and quite a bit heavier. I paid £500 for the S10e too so whilst preferring smaller phones it didn't sting as much as spending £1000+ for something I didn't really want.
One of the things I discovered about face id, is that when I am at a desk and the screen lights up for a notification, all I have to do is look at the screen to see the notification go from preview to displaying the text. If I want to then interact with the phone, I can, or not. I have the 500 gig icloud account so I don't worry about storage.

One thing I do agree with, is a better way of getting your own consumable content on the phone. Doesn't need to be an sd card, could be part of itunes that actually is a streamline interface or some type of built in ftp.
 
One of the things I discovered about face id, is that when I am at a desk and the screen lights up for a notification, all I have to do is look at the screen to see the notification go from preview to displaying the text. If I want to then interact with the phone, I can, or not. I have the 500 gig icloud account so I don't worry about storage.

One thing I do agree with, is a better way of getting your own consumable content on the phone. Doesn't need to be an sd card, could be part of itunes that actually is a streamline interface or some type of built in ftp.

I use a 64GB iPhone and store all my photos and videos on iCloud. It’s a great until you’re in a signal black spot which I seem to often find myself in lately.
 
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I use a 64GB iPhone and store all my photos and videos on iCloud. It’s a great until you’re in a signal black spot which I seem to often find myself in lately.

This has always been my problem and frankly real dislike about Apple's cloud obsession, especially in the smaller capacity days - it's an excuse to skimp on internal storage (profit is priority I'm sure) and fine if you're always in an area with good high speed signal. Sadly in reality many people like myself work around the world, China, Russia etc, where not just quality of signal is a problem but also cost and speed if you're looking to download large files. It's meant I've always had to have a laptop with me when I could have kept everything on a mobile device to make life easier.
 
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I use a 64GB iPhone and store all my photos and videos on iCloud. It’s a great until you’re in a signal black spot which I seem to often find myself in lately.
Don't want to go way too far off-topic, but the family uses icloud for the backup. And I use icloud for photos so my ipad has my latest photos. It's about the convenience and not having to sync up multiple devices. I'm sure google has something similar for android users (or even ios users) but I'm not interested.
This has always been my problem and frankly real dislike about Apple's cloud obsession, especially in the smaller capacity days - it's an excuse to skimp on internal storage (profit is priority I'm sure) and fine if you're always in an area with good high speed signal. Sadly in reality many people like myself work around the world, China, Russia etc, where not just quality of signal is a problem but also cost and speed if you're looking to download large files. It's meant I've always had to have a laptop with me when I could have kept everything on a mobile device to make life easier.
My phone has 256 gb. Granted I can't put a terabyte micro-sd card in there, but I always travel with my surface pro as a mobile device only doesn't quite cut it for me. To each their own use case and when I need a "real" computer, I have one. As I said previously, I hope ios 13 makes synching music, movies and videos a much better process.

That could tip the scales one way or another for certain customers.
 
My phone has 256 gb. Granted I can't put a terabyte micro-sd card in there, but I always travel with my surface pro as a mobile device only doesn't quite cut it for me. To each their own use case and when I need a "real" computer, I have one. As I said previously, I hope ios 13 makes synching music, movies and videos a much better process.

That could tip the scales one way or another for certain customers.

Yeah, everyone has their needs and wants from their devices; I think Apple's eco system has always been great if you have the infrastructure around you, unlimited data etc, less so when things aren't so good.

iTunes has long been a sticking point for many I think, even after 10 years of using it I still have problems - just a couple of weeks back I was trying to add music to an existing playlist on a PC and it wasn't showing on my iPad even after trying everything and physically connecting and syncing, it showed on my phone no problem. It shouldn't be that hard, they've had forever and unlimited resources to make it more user-friendly! I still prefer iOS to my experience of Android so far but drag and drop speed and simplicity is such a relief.
 
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S10e really is great value. XR is not a budget device at all and given they are charging flagship prices for a mid range device I would say. The 128GB XR is around the same price as the regular S10..which is shocking really.
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You can’t call something good value if it can’t retain value one month after launching/sales.

In three months time, the xr will hold on to its value and the s10 will not, happens every year.

Actually Samsung sales for the S series is up from last year. Pre orders were up 30% from last year. Given how the market is it’s rather impressive given how everybody expects upgrades to be worse and worse throughout. Iphone sales are only going to get worse each year until they sort out their terrible pricing structure.

Yeah that’s not actually true.
In fact Samsung has just released a statement claiming first quarter earnings will be lower than expected, they cited weak component sales and worst than expected smartphone sales as the primary reason,

FYI: Samsung’s first quarter earnings include March, guess the 30% increase in pre orders was really for only one country, and was not sustainable after the ending launch promotions.
 
You can’t call something good value if it can’t retain value one month after launching/sales.

In three months time, the xr will hold on to its value and the s10 will not, happens every year.



Yeah that’s not actually true.
In fact Samsung has just released a statement claiming first quarter earnings will be lower than expected, they cited weak component sales and worst than expected smartphone sales as the primary reason,

FYI: Samsung’s first quarter earnings include March, guess the 30% increase in pre orders was really for only one country, and was not sustainable after the ending launch promotions.
You base value on what it can do not what it's resell value is.

XR may have a good resell value but doesn't mean much when it's such a basic phone that does very little apart from the basics

With Samsung you get far better value for money. It can do alot more than any iPhone and certainly more than the XR which is rather poor for the price If you want a high capacity
 
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You can’t call something good value if it can’t retain value one month after launching/sales.

In three months time, the xr will hold on to its value and the s10 will not, happens every year.



Yeah that’s not actually true.
In fact Samsung has just released a statement claiming first quarter earnings will be lower than expected, they cited weak component sales and worst than expected smartphone sales as the primary reason,

FYI: Samsung’s first quarter earnings include March, guess the 30% increase in pre orders was really for only one country, and was not sustainable after the ending launch promotions.
There has been no such statement and no sales fiqures have even been confirmed. Only thing reported is S10 is doing very well so far in comparison to the S9 that's all that's been said
 
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