The memory card slot might also actually support cards up to 2TB.
It also has a radio.
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The memory card slot might also actually support cards up to 2TB.
It also has a radio.
That is like saying because 49 cent tacos sell more than 50 dollar steaks people prefer eating 49 cent tacos.
Compare sales of equivalent devices from Samsung and the numbers are not close.
Exactly. It's the old Android paradox again: Iphone sales don't necessarily mean quality, Android sales absolutely do.
The funny thing is they don't realize, or more likely blatantly ignore, the completely transparent contradiction!
I wouldn't exactly call the Galaxy a 49 cent taco to the iPhone's 50 dollar steak.
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Rather the "if my favorite thing is selling well, then that's just proof my favorite thing is awesome" spiel. Like it's so obvious people prefer the quality of the iPad because Android tablets are selling so poorly. But Android phones selling well? Heh. 49 CENT TACOS SELL MORE THAN 50 DOLLAR STEAKS, DUDE GUY! THAT DON'T MEAN 49 CENT TACOS ARE BETTER! IT MEANS NOTHING.
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For me windows based phones are going to end up being the true High end competition for apple. At least Microsoft and Nokia are trying to make their way. The ENTIRE android world is a fundamental ripoff of iPhones and iOS. With Google likely backing away from android, there is pretty much no chance android devices will be anything but copycats on every level.
You are right about the 900 and I appreciate that windows is trying to innovate in their own way. In 5 years the android phone market share will look remarkably similar to what Nokia experienced when the iPhone came out.
Google will be developing their new mobile os to work exclusively with mmi. Windows will end up taking large portions of Google's android space and apple will be apple. I also will leave room for a fourth os being either independent or developed up by a current manufacturer or one not currently active much in the mobile space.
What nobody will say in five years is "I can't wait for the Samsung Galaxy VIII running Android Diabetes".
My belief is if a phone sells well, it's a good phone. Whether it's Android or iPhone. I absolutely believe sales equals quality when it comes to tech. It's not like fast food where ppl just haphazardly buy alot without it necessarily being good.
But if there are people who don't believe that, then you can't have it both ways. Meaning iPhone sells better then any other phone, because it's the best quality. Or Android has greater marketshare because greater sales don't mean quality necessarily. You can't say the iPhone sells well IN SPITE of poor quality, and Android had high marketshare BECAUSE of great quality or vice versa.
Well, i guess you could say it....just wouldn't make sense
Yeah copying each other like one guy inventing a car and using black wall tires and then Samsung automotive copies their car and gives it white wall tires then apple starts using white walls and you claim they just both copy from each other.
i love my note but i returned it due to screen issues i cant go back to a 3.5/4 inch screen just too small for me now..big yes. not pocket friendly but i got use to it..the GS3/HTC One X are my next pick..keeping my iPhone 4 as a back up phone..
what i like on GS3 are battery/SD card removable..screen should of been a PLUS*screen that was the major thing i wanted..design wise its ok im not drooling over it..i prefer the S4 chip then quad i have no use for a quad on a phone thats for tablets..
on HTC One X i like the screen its not a pentile like the note/GS3 and the iphone 4/S screen has spoiled me with smooth sharp display i can notice it big time when i had the note going back a to iPhone 4/S screen or maybe i just have good eye sight design is i think better then the GS3 but i no memory card expansion/battery removable on HTC X One and only 16GB on att should of been a 32GB at least.they offer i think 25GB of drop box cloud good thing i have unlimited data and gets slow down at 5GB its ok but still dont like that messing with unlimited data throttling..companies are just making owning a smart phone more expensive with dumb fees like att about the data plan on iphone yeah yeah yeah they just want more money..
i dont know ill check out the HTC tomorrow and try it out..
2012 will be HTC One X/GS3/iPhone 5/G nexus..battle fight to see what the best phone but in the end its the person that picks whats the best phone you think that is right for you/like..i hate when people say oh iphone sucks/GS2 is better no HTC is better blah blah blah ect..people have different taste.
what i like on GS3 are battery/SD card removable..screen should of been a PLUS*screen that was the major thing i wanted..design wise its ok im not drooling over it..i prefer the S4 chip then quad i have no use for a quad on a phone thats for tablets..
on HTC One X i like the screen its not a pentile like the note/GS3 and the iphone 4/S screen has spoiled me with smooth sharp display i can notice it big time when i had the note going back a to iPhone 4/S screen or maybe i just have good eye sight
design is i think better then the GS3 but i no memory card expansion/battery removable on HTC X One and only 16GB on att should of been a 32GB at least.they offer i think 25GB of drop box cloud good thing i have unlimited data and gets slow down at 5GB its ok but still dont like that messing with unlimited data throttling..companies are just making owning a smart phone more expensive with dumb fees like att about the data plan on iphone yeah yeah yeah they just want more money.. i dont know ill check out the HTC tomorrow and try it out..
2012 will be HTC One X/GS3/iPhone 5/G nexus..battle fight to see what the best phone but in the end its the person that picks whats the best phone you think that is right for you/like..i hate when people say oh iphone sucks/GS2 is better no HTC is better blah blah blah ect..people have different taste.
I know right! apple barely sells their phone! No one buys it! They're going bankrupt! Upvote now!
No, that wasn't at all what I was implying. I'm a C/C++ programmer by trade and I work mostly with electrical engineers. I program system software and drivers for linux and windows. I can tell you that in our crowd, the iPhone reigns supreme. Very few of the technical people I work with own Android phones. I think it's probably because we work with so much flaky hardware and low-level system software every day that we want smartphones that Just Work.
I think that most uninformed users who walk into a cell phone store want an 'iPhone', without knowing much about what that means (if they spent the time and educated themselves, they wouldn't be uninformed, would they?) I don't think at all that that's a bad thing - it just speaks to Apple's incredible brand recognition. I think what phone they actually end up walking out of the store with has more to do with what the salesman there was trying to push that day than what's really best for them. "The salesman said it's just like an iPhone!"
So if you bought a new car and the key for it was a brick it would be okay because you could still physically fit it in your pocket?
Why not make wallets 3x bigger? You could still fit them in your pants.
It seems clear to me none of the other smartphone makers have done any rational research or think tanking on the hows and whys of the size of a PHONE.
You think as long as a device can fit inside the largest pocket a person has that is good enough. Apple has not been about good enough for a while.
What is awesome about android is when they release updates users can never use them? That is what you just said.
I think one of the biggest drawbacks with apple and what makes them a bad smartphone company is anyone who has bought a phone in the last two-three years can upgrade it within 15 minutes of a new os release. That really sucks for us users and I wish they did it more like android.
Android is so open nobody can even use it.
Lol yeah. Pretty silly. "Google doesn't have anything to do with updates!" Yeah...but Google is the one releasing the updates.
7 months after ics release? 4 percent of devices. Nice.
How many times will the Android users apologize for Google??
Let's cut through the bs here guys, and I mean it in all good will, cause this is bs I 've been repeating to myself as well when I was very much into apple's distortion field. There are not many ways you can play around with a touch screen phone interface. The paradigm of shrinking a desktop os with a stylus was gonna go away anyway since capacitative screens had different characteristics. Ever since graphic ui's began applications and software has been associated by an icon.
Apple just went and stuck a all those application icons on a grid, and some most used ones on a dock like interface at the bottom. It's the simplest way, the most rudimentary way to do it. Even old nokia phones I used to have without the touch screen had a bunch of icons for functions/applications you would navigate around with keys, and some place to stick the most used ones. Apple didn't re-invent the wheel, one could say by looking at older phones (i ll post a picture further down), apple didn't reinvent ****.
So samsung goes and sticks icons for applications too (what should they have done, not put icons for applications, just put words?) and people can press on them instead of navigating with keys...so what? What's the big rip off that apple is crying about? What's the big intellectual property that they had stolen? Sticking icons on a screen in a grid? If apple had come up with some live tile system like ms (not that I am a big fan of it or something) that you 'd say yeah this clearly is paradigm shift I d say ok, but icons for apps are desktop staples, icons on phones for apps/functions were also a mobile phone staple pre apple.
Here's a nokia phone I had in 2006
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Ooops, it has icons in a grid, a status bar on top, just no touch screen. Sometimes I think that apple's lawyering up in this case against samsung here is not so much so they have to protect their "intellectual" property, but for their marketing to sell the story as if they had some immensely great idea that others are copying.
Just look at the nokia phone on top, take a step out of the reality distortion field, look at the applications icons in a grid, the status bar on top, and tell me how's the iphone's interface different to it? That you could touch an icon, press it and move it? But that's just a natural way of doing things if you can touch them, surely when touchscreens hit the market those icons would be able to be moved around.
Sorry to belabour a point, please look at the 2006 nokia phone, icons in grid, status bar and ask yourself isn't it not like iphone? Instead of the apple cultists telling you that apple reinvented the smart phone interface by not taking ms's poor shrunken desktop os with stylus look, that one could simply say that apple just implemented a very basic common phone ui with icons in a grid, status bar on a touch screen and added a place to put the most used icons on the bottom?
(Apple has had a crap notification system and they tried to get the the guys from palm to fix it for them, and they couldn't they went ahead and blatantly copied android slide down notifications, btw, as an aside, apple are not beyond copying not anymore than anyone else is, they just act as if their ideas are somehow super genius ones that everyone is out to copy and replicate, and when they can find a good idea they are quick to rip it off. Take safari as a case in point: apple has copied tabs for safari from opera, they have copied speed dial from opera, they will soon integrate search and address bar and copy it from chrome, they have copied process separation from chrome in safari, they have ripped reader from readability, they have copied reading list from read it later, they have copied extensions from firefox...wait a second? Have they even brought anything to the table that's theirs in the safari interface? )
edit: I just posted my post, and someone downrated it in seconds? Did you (you know who you are) even have time to read it? Don't abuse the rating system boys, it's not a knee jerk thing, you might as well reply instead if you got something to say, and read first, unless I am in a speed reading forum, no one could have read it, when upon clicking post I refreshed the screen.
Besides being one of the longest this was probably the most ridiculous post in this thread.
Apple, without question, invented the touchscreen smart phone market. Anyone denying that reality or saying that samsungs near exact duplications in many cases were inevitable are kookoo for coco puffs.
The notion that Android phones don't get any updates is the biggest myth usually told by people who never owned any Android phone. I own my GS2 for 6 month and I already and 3 system updates. My previous EVO 4G had as many updates as my iPhone 3g before that.
Android updates have been wireless for over 2 years now. And apps could be set to update automatically.
On the other hand how often does Apple make hardware updates? It took Apple 16 month to fix antenna issue!!! That's the "Apple care" you get: get a bumper and be happy
It is funny because four different iPhone models will outsell it.
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Shaq looked at this "phone" and asked if it was a tv.
Quit referring to Smartphones as traditional phones. Actual holding the device up to your ear to talk is becoming a thing of the past. I almost never see people actually talking on the phone anymore. Speaking from my own use the only time I ever actually voice communicate is with speaker phone while the iPhone sits in the dock at my desk.
Now on to the topic of size. If you actually use a phone with a 4.3-5.0 inch screen you'd quickly start asking how you ever survived on anything smaller. Texting, media, productivity and so much more is night and day on a bigger screen.
Apple did invent the modern day touchscreen smartphone industry so no it is not just a matter of everybody copying off each other.
Sure. Apple did not invent any major technologies. Apple did not invent LCD displays nor capacitive touchscreen nor iOS (UNIX).
But "Apple invented market".
Yes, in a nutshell Apple is glorified marketing company building it's business on marketing, Apple cult, hype, brand name, closed ecosystems, and sleek industrial design.
Apple is the world smartest marketing company heavily relying on Samsung hardware components and cheap Chinese labor.
What I cannot figure out is why people like blow45 and lilo777 come on here and post walls of text defending Android so furiously. If you like Android, good for you but don't come on here attacking everyone who points out what they see as copying.
Are you guys paid to post or something? Any reasonable person, even if they had an android phone, should be able to admit that Samsung is being heavily inspired by Apple designs.
The fact remains that Voice Control came out "BEFORE" Google Voice actions and SIRI was a third party app for quite some time before it was bought by Apple and incorporated into the iPhone 4S. Apple also has had voice dictation and recognition technology in the OSes for the desktop since the 1980's and Pre-OS X mac OS even had a "voice is my password" feature on the login screen.
I just find it maddening that these people completely ignore the points some of us have brought out. You can still love android all you want while acknowledging that some copying has taken place.
Apple has freely admitted at times that they were inspired by features in windows in their keynotes but stated that they believed that their implementation was better. Fast user switching is one such example that appeared on windows first and Apple execs admitted that point when they demoed it.
lilo777, which department do you work at inside of Google? I never talk about my employer. Don't you guys have the concept of "work/life" balance? Don't you have policies about confidentiality and separation of work and home life?
I am very careful to never say anything that could possibly link me back to my employer.
You either put them on ignore, which can become burdensome when you get 200+, or you can view them as our court jesters here for our amusement as rational macrumors users.
Their payment comes in the form of attention which they might seemingly lack in regular areas of laugh. Regardless don't let them get you worked up. They are silly.
There are plenty of users here with various devices and knowledge who allow for quality and relevant discussions. The several hundred apple haters bring nothing to the table in terms of discussion or debate, just amusement.