the crappy thing about samsung updates.. you’re forced to update.. no way around it. unless you can root your phone. that’s another reason i enjoy my XR, i’m still on 12.1.1 and haven’t dealt with any lost LTE issues or crazy bugs found in .2 - .4
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Samsung's New Galaxy S10+ vs. Apple's iPhone XS Max
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And I understand where you’re coming from I’m just not one of those people. For example when android P came out it was a significant upgrade and it would have really bothered me to be with an S8 running Oreo a year later.
So though I can admit specifications are better on the Samsung S10 hardware, their lack/slow software updates keeps me from ever thinking of switching.
If only the S10 could update like the pixel 3, however the pixel 3 is nothing more than just a canera. Until their hardware meets the level of at least an iPhone, I would not think of the pixel either.
Every two years I get an itch to switch but not running latest software on any OS is subjectively my pain point.
Why after so many years with Apple I do not go with Samsung? really wanted to switch after 3 iPhone XS Max exchanges, here aremy thoughts:
1. No dual SIM support in US models :-(
2. Asked on Twitter about dual SIM Samsung team, silence was the answer. Great support?!
3. Samsung Warranty runs by Asurion. They can send different color or the same model in exchange, doesn’t work for me. There are plenty of negative reviews.
4. Of corse, going to miss : iMessages, Face Time, Continuity,..... Tim Cook’s correctness
(joke)
5. Security and privacy ( who knows, but Apple is the American company, while .... )
6. No confirmed VoLTE, VoWiFi on Att with unlocked model.
7. I like my Apple Watch
If Samsung can fix 1,2,3,5,6 I “drop” my iPhone. I feel by the time they fix Apple gives something else. Samsung reacts even slower than Apple , take Bixby button, how long it took to give it a freedom.
1. No dual SIM support in US models :-(
2. Asked on Twitter about dual SIM Samsung team, silence was the answer. Great support?!
3. Samsung Warranty runs by Asurion. They can send different color or the same model in exchange, doesn’t work for me. There are plenty of negative reviews.
4. Of corse, going to miss : iMessages, Face Time, Continuity,..... Tim Cook’s correctness
(joke)5. Security and privacy ( who knows, but Apple is the American company, while .... )
6. No confirmed VoLTE, VoWiFi on Att with unlocked model.
7. I like my Apple Watch
If Samsung can fix 1,2,3,5,6 I “drop” my iPhone. I feel by the time they fix Apple gives something else. Samsung reacts even slower than Apple , take Bixby button, how long it took to give it a freedom.
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Not sure why this thread exists. First pick os and ecosystem. iOS vs android. If android then it’s down to which android maker. Samsung vs google vs lg etc. If iOS, then which iPhone.
It’s really that simple. So if Samsung releases new hardware, it really does nothing for me. I already chose iOS. But when google releases new Android versions then that’s the only time it’s worth revisiting this.
What Samsung or any Android oem does is largely insignificant to me. Their software or services is bloatware or crapware to me just as if I bought a windows pc loaded with oem bloatware. Not wanted or desired. Just release hardware and get out of google’s way. Google on the other hand? They’re the ones to pay attention to. Google IS Android among other things.
This is getting lost as more mainstream users started flocking to rumor or smartphone sites. These former sites were once known for more insight have been dumbed down into something else fighting for clicks.
It’s really that simple. So if Samsung releases new hardware, it really does nothing for me. I already chose iOS. But when google releases new Android versions then that’s the only time it’s worth revisiting this.
What Samsung or any Android oem does is largely insignificant to me. Their software or services is bloatware or crapware to me just as if I bought a windows pc loaded with oem bloatware. Not wanted or desired. Just release hardware and get out of google’s way. Google on the other hand? They’re the ones to pay attention to. Google IS Android among other things.
This is getting lost as more mainstream users started flocking to rumor or smartphone sites. These former sites were once known for more insight have been dumbed down into something else fighting for clicks.
This is a great point. With iOS, I generally don’t like to update right away and will do so at my leisure (Once I can read what the update entails, feedback, etc). Even though I’m reminded to update with iOS, I have the option of not doing so, and as you mentioned, Android *makes* it a requirement, which I don’t prefer to be forced to do so.
Back to the hardware with Apple vs Samsung, it’s not even so much about the hardware quality anymore, as it’s generally very good between both competitors, but the software experience is really what matters most moving forward between competitors today, which is why I believe iOS is so dominant.
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How are you forced to update? I never been forced to update any Samsung device.
What do you gain from frequent iOS updates? iOS 12 is pretty much the same as iOS 7 with the same limitations. You only get recurring DoS bug or privacy breach fixes that Android rarely ever need.
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I’m assuming you don’t have an iPhone with this comment? It’s not necessarily just major software updates for features and capabilities, when it provides stability, improving infrastructure with an iOS for patching that might have reported feedback from other users, app building, security patches, and tweaks for performance and generalized enhancement.
It is? iOS 7 infrastructure compared to iOS 12 isn’t even the same realm in terms of what it was trying to execute at that time. Not to mention, iOS 7 didn’t really even address security patching, because there wasn’t that type of infiltration with that specific version.
Not sure how their open SDK works, but I assume that developers can integrate the camera app more seamlessly. Instagram has a function baked into Samsung’s camera app for easier uploads.
For personal reasons I use an iPhone because its hardware (SEP) is factually more secure and Apple's mobile chips are amazing. Also anything to do with Google/Android data is cringe.
iOS is a good OS, but it's actually not that secure as most think. However it is probably the most secure OS. Apple's mobile hardware is definitely the most secure.
Esthetically I'm not a huge fan of Material Design on mobile. I do use Material design themes in my IDEs and web designs though. It's growing on me.
I think Sammy/Android is better at UX. The newer Sammy phones look good.
I use iPhones because I develop iOS plus for business and creative I'm invested in and like the Apple eco system.
If I was an average Joe Blow computer user and basically only needed a mobile and didn't care about privacy I'd probably get a Sammy (if it was considerably cheaper than an iPhone).
You can tell Sammy is working hard. Apple not so much. Tim needs to go.
iOS is a good OS, but it's actually not that secure as most think. However it is probably the most secure OS. Apple's mobile hardware is definitely the most secure.
Esthetically I'm not a huge fan of Material Design on mobile. I do use Material design themes in my IDEs and web designs though. It's growing on me.
I think Sammy/Android is better at UX. The newer Sammy phones look good.
I use iPhones because I develop iOS plus for business and creative I'm invested in and like the Apple eco system.
If I was an average Joe Blow computer user and basically only needed a mobile and didn't care about privacy I'd probably get a Sammy (if it was considerably cheaper than an iPhone).
You can tell Sammy is working hard. Apple not so much. Tim needs to go.
You aren’t forced to update, you get the updates once the carrier pushes it out and you still get security updates
Sometimes updating older phones is worse than not updating giving how it can mess your phone up as older iPhones has shown
Updates is the one area apple has over Samsung I agree but is it a deal breaker? I wouldn’t say do given the amount of features you get on android isn’t as big a deal to get something new each year
When people are getting out of arguments, you here the question why are you on here.
Please don’t be that weak.
With Routines, Bixby learns what you are doing daily and makes suggestions around specific times.....one thing I noticed is that I call my girlfriend at a specific time daily and it learned that and suggested me to do that around the time I typically do so.....so it should continue to learn how I am throughout my daily tasks......
And Samsung issue Security and patches. Users don't have to wait for a major update to get these.
You're not sure and are assuming? lol I'm an iOS dev and the iOS SDK is seamless. Uploads couldn't be easier.
What Sammy has done is simply allow the uploading of photos shot with the built in camera app to IG. Instagram has partnered with Sammy so that users can use fancy stickers etc with those photos. Same with Snapchat and others.
You can already dicrectly upload to IG with the iPhone camera app. Take a photo then click the share sheet and upload to IG.
IG also would like more direct access to Apple's hardware as does everyone else.
As usual Sammy is more open to 3rd parties accessing their hardware and data.
My partner uses bixby for her alarms but that’s all she uses it for. Will certainly give it a try for routines when my S10 plus arrives
you get the notification to either update or postpone.. you can get that message maybe 5 times then it auto updates
That’s fairly intuitive. I think it’s interesting that A.I. can learn and adapt to users accommodations, schedule, or daily habits. I think I would really like to see Siri improve in this area, and Google assistant/Bixby are far ahead against Siri in that segment, (which I use Siri quite frequently, but it lacks in that area.)
That has never happened to me. And I've held off updates plenty of times.
With iOS, I can't count how many times I updated by accident due to the annoying popup that appears as soon as you are about to tap the display.
I see it like this:
You have two vendors. Each are using the same components. The components are all bought from third party vendors. One vendor charges you double the amount of money for the same parts the other vendor is using. Which would you buy?
If I prefer one platform over the other, I would still choose to go with the preferred platform, regardless of cost. I see your point and I think it’s fair, mainly because Apple does charge too much, but there is more to a tech product than just components. Software, services, ecosystem, all contribute to that product. Some people prefer Apple and some people prefer Android. The Apple people just pay a little more for a different experience. My Apple stuff has always been quality though so I don’t stress the costs too much.
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You keep saying nothing.
Damn, that's such a weird bug.
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Agreed, there isn't much substance to what they wrote. The Galaxy Fold isn't meant to be sold by volume. It's supposed to be in very limited quantities and is a first-gen piece of tech.