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This will always be the most ridiculous comment regarding the headphone jack. When bluetooth can match the same audio quality as the jack, then get back to me. Until then, just stop.


Try Apple's version with the new W-1 wireless chip when the Airpods arrive. It's revolutionizing the industry and they just got started with it
 
It's not a HUGE inconvenience though is it. It's a minor one at best.

You see how bats*it mental people go when Apple change ports, the 98% of casual iPhone buyers this forum isn't would be climbing the walls in rage if Apple changed to USB-C from Lightning on the iPhone. THREE charging port changes in a decade, too much for them.

Not being able to backup precious data (that isn't automatically backed up to iCloud daily) from your iPhone to the 2016 rMBP is quite frankly ludicrous.
God only knows what apple were thinking.
 
This isn't exactly unexpected, but I think it has an unfortunate side effect for apple. With USB C as a viable alternative ready now while everyone is matching apple by removing the headphone jack, USB C may emerge as a strong competitor to lightening headphones. The hope that everyone would switch to bluetooth may not pan out if USB C proves popular/good enough. We might be stuck with years of competing standards, dongles, etc...


It all depends on what Apple wants to do with the next phone. The advantage of lightning is that Apple doesn't have to wait for any standards body, like they would with USBc, if they have technological changes they want to implement. That, plus the lightning plug is smaller which is a concern.
 
Hasn't been an issue for me not having one, and makes sense for the future of tech. Hopefully Samsung puts the space to use with more batteries and perhaps some new unique features of their own.

While I think Lightning is superior (as a robust contact in a consumer hardware design), I hope Apple follows suit and switches over to USB-C to make the entire apple Family share a simple unified port.

This would be my guess as well with a larger battery and advancing with wireless capabilities. Also, Samsung also has their own proprietary Bluetooth earbuds, which would boost sales in this catergory. They have had their current Earbuds on the market for almost a year, which perhaps they will have their second generation earbuds ready to launch if this rumor is accurate.
 
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It's not a HUGE inconvenience though is it. It's a minor one at best.

Actually, it IS a huge inconvenience. Especially if you're one who enjoys owning Apple's newest products. Can you use Lightning headphones on a Mac? NO. Can you plug in your iPhone into your new MacBook Pro using the same cable that you use to plug it into the wall? NO. You have to purchase a separate cable. Can you use the headphones that you use with your new MacBook Pro with your iPhone? NO. These are all major inconveniences. Whereas, if both products simply used USB-C, ZERO of these issues would exist.
 
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Omitting the headphone jack is stupid since wired headphone tech is superior to wireless. Doesn't matter if it's Apple or another manufacturer.
Thanks for your opinion. I don't agree. They have provided for headphone jacks - it's just a different connector type. The fact you don't like the connector or that you consider the new connector as "omitting" wired headphone is just not consistent with facts or reality. If you prefer to use the 3.5mm connector versus the lightning connector, they even provide a free converter. So nothing is omitted. In a few years it will probably become difficult to find ear phones that use the 3.5 connector. But please continue with your opinions and don't let facts get in the way. :D
 
We can rip on Samsung all we want for copying Apple. But hey, at least they're using USB-C instead of stupid Lightning.

Apple has been one of the pioneers of USB-C implementation, yet they don't even want to use it in their mobile devices....It's SUCH a HUGE inconvenience!
Why would they use a Lightning connector in a Samsung product? Technically, they would have to make their phones be in the MFi Program.

OTOH, I would like to see Apple transition from Lightning (which proceeded the finalization of USB-C, I believe) to USB-C. Considering that the new MBPs are USB-C only, that seems like a reasonable path forward.
 
Right? Wasn't it intel that was pushing heavily for usb c to be the audio solution for the future over a year ago at one of the tech expos?

Something like that, I think I remember reading something about HTC a while ago about it. It's a shame but when the entire industry decides to dump something theirs not a lot you can do about it.. think it will be a while till HiFi systems and TVs and game console controllers ditch them.
 
The AirPods are a bloody joke. They don't even have enough battery life to last you on a transcontinental flight in the US.
How do you know? It's not like they've been released or sumthin'. It's almost like the Apple CEO had no experience with supply chain at all. 8-o

I work in a dusty environment. I use my earbuds as noise-cancelling when working with power tools. Then I take them out and drop them and step on them. They are €5 Sony earbuds that have amazing sound quality for the price. I get a few pairs every 6 months because I know I will ruin them. I could just about use something like the "wireless headphones with cable" – like Jaybirds – by pinning them to my shirt. Something like Airpods is 100% unusable for me. I am now rockin' a S7 and the only thing I regret is that I haven't gone with the edge version. If S8 has no headphone jack, they will also have no sale from me – again. My S7 is four months old so far and fully supported so I am not exactly worried just yet, but unless within two years wireless headphones will gently hover next to my head while I am not wearing them – or Apple/Samsung/etc. finally produce something as ingenious as QC12s with magnet keeping them together – there's no way I can use wireless headphones. Unless they cost €5, are connected with a cable and sound as good as my Sony.

This is obviously not mainstream use case. But then most people on this forum don't have mainstream use cases.
 
Why would they use a Lightning connector in a Samsung product? Technically, they would have to make their phones be in the MFi Program.

They wouldn't....... Nobody said that they would....

OTOH, I would like to see Apple transition from Lightning (which proceeded the finalization of USB-C, I believe) to USB-C. Considering that the new MBPs are USB-C only, that seems like a reasonable path forward.

That's exactly what I'm saying....
 
Thanks for your opinion. I don't agree. They have provided for headphone jacks - it's just a different connector type. The fact you don't like the connector or that you consider the new connector as "omitting" wired headphone is just not consistent with facts or reality. If you prefer to use the 3.5mm connector versus the lightning connector, they even provide a free converter. So nothing is omitted. In a few years it will probably become difficult to find ear phones that use the 3.5 connector. But please continue with your opinions and don't let facts get in the way. :D
What he said isn't an opinion. He was talking about audio quality and nothing else. The other issue is that out of the box, you need an entirely separate dongle that doesn't come with the phone in order use the 3.5 jack and charge at the same time. You also need a dongle that doesn't come with the phone to even plug it into the new MacBook Pro. I'm not sure why you don't get people's issues with this.
 
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Not true, unlike the iphone the s7 has wireless charging.

They have inductive charging. That's everything, but not wireless.
 
"With the removal of the headphone jack in the Galaxy S8, Samsung users will face the same drawbacks iPhone users have had to deal with since September. There will be no way to charge and listen to music at the same time without a special adapter"

Not true, unlike the iphone the s7 has wireless charging.

I wouldn't call it wireless, more like "full contact with a pad that is plugged into the wall".
 
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Actually, it IS a huge inconvenience. Especially if you're one who enjoys owning Apple's newest products. Can you use Lightning headphones on any Mac? NO. Can you plug in your iPhone into your new MacBook Pro using the same cable that you use to plug it into the wall? NO. You have to purchase a separate cable. Can you use the headphones that you use with your new MacBook Pro with your iPhone? NO. These are all major inconveniences. Whereas, if both products simply used USB-C, ZERO of these issues would exist.

But then Apple wouldn't make any money on selling you an adapter or being paid a license fee by another adapter manufacture..
 
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The AirPods are a bloody joke. They don't even have enough battery life to last you on a transcontinental flight in the US.


Your sarcasm towards the trollers is pretty obvious to those who follow Apple, but the problem is that trollers won't probably get it that you are poking fun at them. They may not realize that the the Airpods are good for 5 hours which is pretty much cross country for most of us who fly on jet airplanes. That assumes you keep them on for without ever taking a break. The trollers also won't realize that you get a total of 24 hrs with the holding case and they recharge for 3 more hours with in just 15 minutes.
 
How do you know? It's not like they've been released or sumthin'. It's almost like the Apple CEO had no experience with supply chain at all. 8-o


Apple's website says 5 hour battery life, that's not particularly long, especially for air travel.
 
Thanks for your opinion. I don't agree. They have provided for headphone jacks - it's just a different connector type. The fact you don't like the connector or that you consider the new connector as "omitting" wired headphone is just not consistent with facts or reality. If you prefer to use the 3.5mm connector versus the lightning connector, they even provide a free converter. So nothing is omitted. In a few years it will probably become difficult to find ear phones that use the 3.5 connector. But please continue with your opinions and don't let facts get in the way. :D

But he's not wrong.

Wired headphone technology is better than wireless

EXCEPT in regards to having the wire. And for many, That's fine. But at the end of the day, The wired headset will technically offer better technical results. Far less latency. Greater "bandwidth" (if you're doing digital), wider range of sound compatibility (no compression since analogue signals can be sent directly). You can also have the lack of batteries to charge and wired headphones without batteries will have longer lifespans (since batteries all have limited cycles of charge)

the cost of wired is also significantly less as you don't need to provide batteries and electronics for digital to analogue conversion and the wireless signal, meaning more of the costs can be towards better quality sounds / drivers / wires etc.

I'm not saying that wired is for everyone. Many times wireless headsets offer compelling reason to accept its' tradeoffs. Being freedom from wires.

But at the end of the day, To claim as "FACT" that wireless is better than wired is fundamentally untrue and is based on as much opinion as the guy you are referring to
 
usb c then for the next iPhone? because that outdated technology was universal, but lightning port isn't.

Everyone is hoping USB C for the next iPhone, yes. USB was never outdated, its connector was...and it changed more over the past 15 years than Apple changed connectors too. Not to mention, before the iPhone, virtually every phone on the market had its own proprietary connector.
 
So, if Apple were to include a dead fish stuffed inside every iPhone 8 box; how long before Samsung did the same
No need to wait on Apple.
Samsung already beat Apple on the dead fish front.
It was called The Note 7.
 
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