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Like a Moon-size idiot, I threw mine away a long time ago.

have I mentioned how stupid I was do have done that?
They are just objects, these are not the important things in life.
However beautiful an object may be, it is always just a stupid object.

Chances you're a lot smarter than me to throw them away and not me to keep them.
 
Good screens have never been cheap... here is my 24" Sony GDFM-900, I know I paid over $1500 for it. Had it for yeeeears. Its on top of a glass block. No height adjustment, just tilt and swivel. For the life of me, I cant remember what I did with it. I know I replaced it with a Dell 2405FP LCD. Maybe it died.

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LTT showed it here:
 
Are we not proofreading articles anymore?

Kinda sorta makes sense in the whacky world of MacOS dumbed-down screen modes.

Roughly speaking, "2560x1440" is how the MacOS Displays Preferences box actually describes the default 5k screen mode, which is actually 5120x2880 resolution with double sized fonts, icons etc.
 
That refresh rate is pitiful. 60hz was unacceptable a few years ago... I donno wtf Samsung or anyone else is thinking still selling anything with 60hz.

Maybe because most computers out there nowadays still have, at best, DisplayPort 1.4 (or the HDMI equivalent) which maxes out at 60Hz at 5k resolution - doubling the refresh rate doubles the bandwidth. Not sure if anybody is making 5k panels with 120Hz support yet, there may be plenty of 120Hz displays and TVs on sale, but they're 4k or lower.

60Hz was unacceptable back in the good old days of CRT displays that actually flickered at 60Hz. On a modern LCD display ProMotion may be nice but its a lot of extra bandwidth just to make your cursor a bit clearer and scrolling smoother. Good luck finding games that can exceed 60fps at 5k.
 
When will Apple update MacOS where "scaling" is not going to be an issue?

It hasn't been an issue in Windows for a decade.
I’m curious what you are referring to because I find high resolution displays work infinitely better on Mac compared to windows.
 
I’m curious what you are referring to because I find high resolution displays work infinitely better on Mac compared to windows.
The whole thing on Mac needing to have this magical retina PPI on a monitor vs its size so performance is not affected, and you only have 4 scaling options.

On Windows you can run any resolution and adjust your scaling in percentage to anything you want. And because its been out since Win8, everything supports it. the UI of everything scales perfectly in everything, no matter the resolution and no mater the monitor size.
 
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Good screens have never been cheap... here is my 24" Sony GDFM-900, I know I paid over $1500 for it. Had it for yeeeears. Its on top of a glass block. No height adjustment, just tilt and swivel. For the life of me, I cant remember what I did with it. I know I replaced it with a Dell 2405FP LCD. Maybe it died.

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LTT showed it here:

Back when computing was fun!!
 
the studio display will be hard to top. Despite the negativity toward it I have to say it’s a game changer. The height adjustable stand only handles a slight height adjustment anyhow. So it’s a nonissue. Nobody complained about not being able to height adjust an iMac.
They made the Studio Display 2 inches lower than a 27” iMac, to basically force one to purchase the height-adjustable version. This is not obvious until one does a side-by-side comparison while setting up their Studio Display next to the old iMac. I returned the tilt-only Studio Display and purchased the height adjustable one.
 
Good, at least it's not overpriced like that crApple stuff
The Studio Display can be cheaper than this at Costco (just was) or Amazon. Would take the Apple Studio Display all day long over this. Guarantee less problems and better compatibility if using any Apple product with the Studio Display.

I actually think the Samsung is way overpriced. They are certainly not Apple and should not command Apple prices.
 
Yes, the ideal solution is not motivate huge manufacturing of oddball resolutions like 5K but re-work the Mac OS to that it effectively scales to the proper display presentation at ANY resolution... like Windows already does.

I've always thought it a bit odd that the Mac UI doesn't scale like that when- at its foundation- is endlessly flexible PDF-based graphics concepts. I haven't dug into WHY Apple chose this approach over flexible UI scaling (like Windows). I presume there is some very good reason for it beyond only 💰💰💰
It does scale, but it doesn’t do the style of anti-aliasing that Windows does. Even so, with enough resolution, the results are sharp enough. It’s just that at 27-32” 4K isn’t quite enough resolution to properly render small text in either Mac or Windows. You can get it shart but the ability to resolve fine detail just isn’t here at 163dpi. (That’s fax range)
 
I was about to say "Oh, wow. You're running it on a IIsi!" and then I saw the tower underneath. 😆
LOL, yeah. it was just a monitor stand for the right side second screen, some viewsonic 17". I bought the "performance" line so the gray would match. I cant remember the tower, it was either a dual 867 or a 933. I had 3 other employees at the time, one was running a cube, and we had either a 733 DA, dual 867 or something. Maybe even Dual 1.25 MDDs. Might have had CRTs still, or begun to move to LCDs. First ones were Dell 2001FPs, @ $700 each. They were smaller than my Sony resoltion wise, so I didnt upgrade unil the 24" Dell 2405 came out, think it was 2005? And $1200 in 2005 money.

I get that today's monitors are super adjustable... but few remember that CRTs offered just the basic tilt/swivel.

Cube 450, maybe? a 21" CRT, on books.

Print server was a 9600/350. Epson 550 PRO, Epson Stylus PRo 3000 and HP 4MV. On a 1000BT newtork. The 5 port 1000BT switch was $400.

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Why not a regular DP port? I will wait to pass judgment until I see it, but the Studio Display is still the best, IMO. Of course, they can make it more PC friendly, but still a solid upgrade.
 
The Studio Display can be cheaper than this at Costco (just was) or Amazon. Would take the Apple Studio Display all day long over this. Guarantee less problems and better compatibility if using any Apple product with the Studio Display.

I actually think the Samsung is way overpriced. They are certainly not Apple and should not command Apple prices.
samsung products tend to have better sales. samsung likely launching this at this price to maximize on initial profits before putting it on sale to make it look like a steal compared to the studio display. also, there is no guarantee that the studio display has less problems.
 
The price is close enough that it might actually bring Studio Display sales when people starts to compare.
 
If the Apple Studio Display had built in Airplay/screen casting from devices wirelessly connected to the display, I would have it now. The S9 does this, so its the next best thing in my opinion.
What devices are you wirelessly connecting to the display? If they can wirelessly connect to the display I would think that would be over AirPlay already - so you could just AirPlay them to the other screen where you want to see them? I'm trying to understand this use case. Are you talking about daisy chaining screens via AirPlay, or AirPlaying to multiple screens simultaneously?

I can AirPlay my phone or ipad to the Studio Display and it works very well. I can AirPlay my Studio Display to my iPad, which also works very well. All three devices can AirPlay to my AppleTV in my living room with no issues. But not many to one, and not one to many. Only one to one works.
 


Back at CES in January, Samsung unveiled its upcoming ViewFinity S9 display, one of the closest competitors to Apple's Studio Display, and last month Samsung revealed that it would finally be launching in the U.S. in August.

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It now appears we have a specific date for the launch, as Amazon has put the new display up for pre-order with a listed release date of August 28 and delivery available for the following day.

The Samsung ViewFinity S9 will be one of the few 27-inch 5K displays on the market, offering an ideal pixel density for a 2560 x 1440 desktop at full Retina quality, just like the Apple Studio Display.

The ViewFinity S9 is priced at $1,599.99, essentially the same as the Apple Studio Display, although Samsung includes a tilt- and height-adjustable stand while Apple charges $400 for that upgrade. The ViewFinity S9 can also be pivoted to a portrait orientation using the included stand.

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The ViewFinity S9 includes one Thunderbolt 4 port, three USB-C ports, a Mini DisplayPort, and a DC 20V port for a power supply. It can connect to both PCs and Macs, and offers 90W power transfer and data speeds of up to 40Gb/s for machines connected through the Thunderbolt 4 port.

At the top of the display, there is a 4K SlimFit camera that can tilt to fit the angle of the monitor, with an Auto Framing feature keeping the user visible and in the shot, similar to Apple's Center Stage feature. Built-in speakers are included, and an Adaptive Sound+ option allows noise levels to automatically adjust.

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Built-in Smart TV apps and a remote control are also included that allow the display to function as a TV without being connected to a computer. Popular streaming apps are supported, as well as the Samsung Gaming Hub for playing cloud-based games from Xbox, NVIDIA, and more.

The new ViewFinity S9 should also be going up for sale on Samsung's site for the same August 28 launch, and other retailers should also be adding it as the date approaches.

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Article Link: Samsung's ViewFinity S9 5K Display Launching August 28, Pre-Orders Available Now
It's 5,120 x 2,880, not 2560 x 1440 (like pre-retina 27 inch iMac).
 
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I actually think the Samsung is way overpriced. They are certainly not Apple and should not command Apple prices.

This is an odd assertion. There are only two companies that make truly premium display panels and Apple is definitely not one of them. LG & Samsung are the only companies capable of actually producing these displays and are in fact the OEM's for both the Studio and more expensive XDR.
 
This is an odd assertion. There are only two companies that make truly premium display panels and Apple is definitely not one of them. LG & Samsung are the only companies capable of actually producing these displays and are in fact the OEM's for both the Studio and more expensive XDR.
I don’t think people generally knows this. Of course Apple and other companies that buys panels from LG and Samsung can tweak the screens, but I think it’s quite ignorant to completely dismiss a LG or Samsung screen since the likelihood that you’ve “had” that is is high. I understand points regarding build quality etc though.
 
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If its quality is anything like the M8 — AHAHAHAHA at $1,599.99.

I have Viewfinity S8 4K.. which is the higher end "professional" version of the M8. It's crap.

  • They removed the speaker from the M8, but monitor is not any thinner or smaller.
  • The stand and articulation is flimsy.
  • The supposedly 90W USB-C delivers 65W to a laptop... if at all. (various laptops have trouble detecting that it's even being charged).
  • The other USB-A ports do not provide pass-through USB charging. Why not ? The monitor is always connected to power supply.
Last few days, damn thing even refuses to get video signal from my work Dell laptop (also crap product on its own).

Samsung and Dell... would never wish these products on my worst enemies.
 
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