Yes but considering this is exactly what Apple actually does, then that’s why you have these renders of an X blown up. The iPhone 11 Plus will look exactly like this render most likely bar some possible camera changes.
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Yes but considering this is exactly what Apple actually does, then that’s why you have these renders of an X blown up. The iPhone 11 Plus will look exactly like this render most likely bar some possible camera changes.
I pay 2500$ for the iPhone X with SE size.
This is not a money question at all.
Its all about the size!
This is not a money question at all.
Its all about the size!
Did anyone notice the different border width of the medium supposed LCD iPhone in this picture?
Hi do we know these rumours and leaks are real? Because we could not be getting a 6.1” iPhone at all.
Their is no more validity in this case maker producing renders then one with a proven track record producing cases for a new X style SE, yet people’s ‘opinions’, especially the staff writers on here, believe the leaks of the new 6.1” model far more then the new SE.
Their is no more validity in this case maker producing renders then one with a proven track record producing cases for a new X style SE, yet people’s ‘opinions’, especially the staff writers on here, believe the leaks of the new 6.1” model far more then the new SE.
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How else would you describe a phone with a larger screen, new processor, and likely bumped hardware specs?
iPhone 9, iPhone Xs, iPhone Xs Plus. In this way Apple is answering our question as to what happened to the iPhone 9 in 2017 when they released the iPhone 8 and iPhone X (10) last year. Now we can see the Xs as still the 10 but more powerful next to the iPhone 9. Then next year they will get rid of the numerical naming of the iPhone. Just a hunch but I’m willing to bet that this is going to happen. Not sure of the pricing though.
Thanks for the market research. It must be the wackos on the fringe that are buying all those Xs then.
I'm still pretty sure the LCD screen with aluminum back will be an iPod touch. The iPhone SE fulfills not just the low budget bracket but also those who prefer a 4 inch screen. I actually know more people who purchased the SE for the 4 inch screen than those who couldn't afford better models.
Agree. Apple is so screwed up right now. I realize OLED is not LCD, but honestly I can't tell a difference between my X and my old 6 Plus. None at all. In fact, the X's screen has scratched up horrendously - waaay worse than any iPhone I've had before has. Bad manufacturing. Just waiting for these new ones to come out so I can get rid of it. Nobody would want it as a hand-me-down it's so messed up. I'm a musician with a pro studio in my house and hardly ever need to leave, so it's hardly been abused!
Yeah, I went through the same mental exercise last year, and it was basically the same physical size as the Plus model, you know +- a mm or two
Also some guesses about resolution/PPI, etc. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-x-plus-thoughts.2089249/
I forget it’s there and would love Apple to remove it and give up on it, they haven’t even improve with it and has been the same since the start.
Not wackos, early adopters. They’ll buy anything with an Apple logo.
Apple’s own actions this fall tells you the mainstream market clearly wants larger displays. Look at the next two largest competitors: Samsung and Huawei. Their product stack start at 5.8”.
I don’t need the burden of having to explain the brand and its pronunciation when everyone asks and you know g damn well everyone will. It’s a dumb name made by some iPhone copycat hiding behind communism. Friggin bs.
You don’t think the three letter government agencies could have had anything to do with Touch ID elimination, do you? Somebody got to Cook? After all, now a cop just has to raise your phone to unlock it. No more stories about how they can’t get into phones.
Except for the feature that disabled faceID of course.
“I also quizzed Federighi about the exact way you "quick disabled" Face ID in tricky scenarios -- like being stopped by police, or being asked by a thief to hand over your device.
"On older phones the sequence was to click 5 times [on the power button], but on newer phones like iPhone 8 and iPhone X, if you grip the side buttons on either side and hold them a little while -- we'll take you to the power down [screen]. But that also has the effect of disabling Face ID," says Federighi. "So, if you were in a case where the thief was asking to hand over your phone -- you can just reach into your pocket, squeeze it, and it will disable Face ID. It will do the same thing on iPhone 8 to disable Touch ID."
That squeeze can be of either volume button plus the power button. This, in my opinion, is an even better solution than the "5 clicks" because it's less obtrusive. When you do this, it defaults back to your passcode.”
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/09/apples_faceid.html
Apple’s actions (which are still just shady rumors at best, mind you) do no such thing. What it tells me, if true, is that Apple are totally fine fracturing the product line-up into oblivion (again), which is confusing for consumers, and has to be somewhat of a PITA for software developers, too.
For the record, I’ve owned “plus” models (always with an Apple logo, natch) since they came out, and they are just downright lovable. But the point all along, at least in terms of my posts in this thread, has been that Apple could make TWO sizes of phone, regardless of LCD vs. OLED, and regardless of mainstream vs. bleeding edge. If the entire line refreshes in the fall, why not be simple about it? Why make THREE different sizes and resolutions? Make the cheap phone a phablet, I really don’t care - but make it the same phablet screen format as the fancy phone. It’s not complicated. At least, it shouldn’t be.
We've heard about the 6.1" iPhone for more than 6 months now. This isn't some "shady rumor" - it came straight from Ming Chi Kuo.
To answer your question again, 6.1" is what the mainstream consumer wants in 2018. Not 5.8". The 6.1" product is a mainstream size for mainstream customer seeking a $700-$800 phone.
Every one of the top smartphone manufacturers this year has a 6.1" product or larger.
- Apple - iPhone 6.1"
- Samsung - Galaxy S9+
- Huawei - P20 Pro
- Xiaomi - Mi 8
- LG - G7
- Oppo - R15
Thanks again for the completely unsubstantiated market research. Not sure why you’re latching onto a red herring, but to drive home the point, again - if Apple makes a 5.8” OLED phone and a 6.1” LCD phone both in the same lineup, it seems like it would be silly. And again, I don’t care if the iPhone 11+ and the “market-driven” LCD version are both 6.1” screens, or 7”, or larger - since bigger is apparently better, according to your findings. To have three different sizes is adding too many decision points into the mix with more chance of alienating customers than attracting them.
tl;dr - Make two sizes of phone with differing content levels. Err towards the larger if that’s where the money lies. Don’t care.
"Silly" because you think three phones is too many for Apple. Got it.
Meanwhile, competitors are selling 5.8" to 6.4" phones. You seem to think you're smarter than Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc.
As smartphone technology matures, it's no longer competitive to sell only two sizes of smartphones. We've seen this with other Apple products. iPad went from 9.7" to include 10.5" and 12.9". MacBook is spread among 3 different families and 3 sizes. Tesla can no longer afford to sell just 2 products.
tl;dr: Stop thinking like it's 2014. Smartphone technology is quickly maturing. Size and price differentiation is increasing necessary to capture more customers.
And you think that makes sense? Got it.
As a shareholder, I think it’s just great that they sell an antiquated Air line that competes with nothing. The design was amortized long ago, so it’s got to be a cash cow.
As someone who remembers the philosophy of simplicity Jobs used to preach, the fractured lineup is baffling. Just as it will be if these rumors end up being “not shady.”