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I thought he got fired cause he wouldn't apologize to the public about maps. So cook had to suck it up and apologize.
 
Forstall running the show?!? Yeah right, look at the mess he made with maps.....why have you all forgotten that. He got sacked for screwing up - he also did not keep high enough standards.

If cook went or when he does Ive should take over. He like Jobs gets the intersect between technology and art, forstall does not have a clue about the design element which is what makes Apple apple.

Forstall, a programmer? Seriously? Why not bring in Bill gates or the other one that just retired from windows. Programmers running it.....if you want windows buy windows - simple.



WIndows? Who's asking for Windows?
 
I thought he got fired cause he wouldn't apologize to the public about maps. So cook had to suck it up and apologize.

Yeah, as far as has been hinted at. Cook was apologising and wanted all the big wigs to follow suit, Forstall refused and then no longer worked for Apple.
 
I thought he got fired cause he wouldn't apologize to the public about maps. So cook had to suck it up and apologize.


Cook is CEO. Anything that happens at Apple good or not so good is his responsibility. No reason Bono should apologize for Cook pushing an album to devices. That was Cook's boneheaded decision.

All the commotion about Maps is silly. People with pricy phones could not make calls because of buggy OS. That is ok but a silly app is reason for discharge.

Amazing

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Steve had a private jet? lol. I love how he went from living on a commune to flying in a private jet.


Yes. Steve's compensation at Apple was $1 per year and employee health insurance. The board made a jet available for his use after a few years.

A bargain!
 
Needs to return to :apple:

Just saying...

Not unless he as better thoughts on flat design. He's designs were stuck in the 90's.

What I would like to see is Apple unify the look of their native icons. As of now, they are all over the place.
 
Send Cook back to the counting house. He was an excellent COO.

Someone posted this a while back. A suprise banner during the iOS 7 unveiling. If you push a man far enough who knows what he will do.
 

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Some of you are nuts.More new features in iOS 7 and 8 than all the previous iOS updates combined.I call the forestall days the dark ages of iOS.Just pick up a device running iOS 6 and see how terrible it looks.
 
I don't want Forstall back.
I just want someone in the job who knows how to a UI is supposed to work.
Anybody but whoever the guy that is in there now.
 
Some of you are nuts.More new features in iOS 7 and 8 than all the previous iOS updates combined.I call the forestall days the dark ages of iOS.Just pick up a device running iOS 6 and see how terrible it looks.

what counts as a feature?

terrible looking is a personal preference but personally there needs to be a logic behind that design and ive felt that has been missing since ios7.

the dialer in the phone is one example.
 
WIndows? Who's asking for Windows?
It's a comparison......

The ethos of Apple is very different to that of windows. Apple focuses on art and technology intersecting, windows on programming. If people want a programmer running Apple then what they want is what happens at windows - buy that and stop moaning here. Simple :)
 
I prefer the flat over skeumorphic.

Forstall had so much more to do with iOS than just skeumorphism:

Forstall's name is on 166 pending patent applications. That's more than anyone at the company, according to data from investment bank MDB Capital.

"He's one of, if not the most prolific inventors at Apple,"

I'm certain Forstall would've eventually adapted iOS to a flat design, and I'm certain that a lot of his ideas are used in iOS 7 & iOS 8. The guy and his team created iOS, Safari, and Aqua for Pete's sake, and got fired for a Maps app that still sucks to this day?

Maps was a monumental task to undertake and I applaud him for not apologizing to the pencil pusher Tim Cook and standing his ground. Cook fired him to show the world that he was fully in charge at Apple; it was an ego contest. Now we get garbage like iOS 8.0.1 and Healthkit that doesn't work most of the time.
 
Forstall had so much more to do with iOS than just skeumorphism:

Forstall's name is on 166 pending patent applications. That's more than anyone at the company, according to data from investment bank MDB Capital.

"He's one of, if not the most prolific inventors at Apple,"

I'm certain Forstall would've eventually adapted iOS to a flat design, and I'm certain that a lot of his ideas are used in iOS 7 & iOS 8. The guy and his team created iOS, Safari, and Aqua for Pete's sake, and got fired for a Maps app that still sucks to this day?

Maps was a monumental task to undertake and I applaud him for not apologizing to the pencil pusher Tim Cook and standing his ground. Cook fired him to show the world that he was fully in charge at Apple; it was an ego contest. Now we get garbage like iOS 8.0.1 and Healthkit that doesn't work most of the time.

Riiiiight. And we all know IOS was picture perfect until he got fired.
 
Yeah, no thanks! Cook is a great CEO and shareholders support him and could care less about your nostalgic whining. If you want to see green felt, go play billiards :D
 
Riiiiight. And we all know IOS was picture perfect until he got fired.

No software is picture perfect, but it was definitely more stable. The lone argument of skeuomorphism is tired and weak. The man was responsible for a lot of things that make iOS and OS X great.

From his wiki:

Forstall was also responsible for creating a software developer's kit for programmers to build iPhone apps, as well as an App Store within iTunes

Don't sit up here and pretend that the man wasn't a great asset.
 
It's a comparison......

The ethos of Apple is very different to that of windows. Apple focuses on art and technology intersecting, windows on programming. If people want a programmer running Apple then what they want is what happens at windows - buy that and stop moaning here. Simple :)

OK by me. I have no issue with Windows. I use both Windows and OS X. I'm a Mac user at heart but there are some tasks that Windows does better or exclusively. I spend more time on my Mac but there is always a Windows unit here when I need it.

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Yes, good idea. He should be coo and ceo.

Who is COO?
 
No software is picture perfect, but it was definitely more stable. The lone argument of skeuomorphism is tired and weak. The man was responsible for a lot of things that make iOS and OS X great.

From his wiki:

Forstall was also responsible for creating a software developer's kit for programmers to build iPhone apps, as well as an App Store within iTunes

Don't sit up here and pretend that the man wasn't a great asset.

Apple is off in a new direction and while I got into the iphone game late, I like the new direction.

I like IOS 8 and multitude of tweaks that was made to IOS 7. I won't pretend it's picture perfect, but it's a far cry as bad it some make it out to seem. I've played with 8.0.2 on both an i6 and i6+ and for whatever reason some of the issues noted in these forums haven't surfaced on the phones I used.

On my iphone 5s about the worst thing is that landscape mode seems to get stuck on occasion. This I'm sure will be fixed in the upcoming updates.

Whether he was a great asset or not, as in corporate life, change happened at the top. Various versions of IOS were not perfect under his watch and they won't be moving forward either.

IMO it's not the disaster made out to be around here.

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OK by me. I have no issue with Windows. I use both Windows and OS X. I'm a Mac user at heart but there are some tasks that Windows does better or exclusively. I spend more time on my Mac but there is always a Windows unit here when I need it.

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Who is COO?

I thought you knew?
 
The debug podcast often has former Apple employees on the show talking about their previous work at Apple. They all typically speak very highly of Forstall, his drive, vision and around-the-clock devotion to projects. The take home being he was a PITA to report to and work with if you wanted to enjoy your evenings and weekends. But if you really wanted to push yourself and achieve great things at Apple, Forstall was someone who would help you achieve your goals.

So while he gets trashed often on here nowadays since leaving and for the maps debacle, the fact some very highly respected former Apple engineers speak so highly of him - it tells me he was a very big asset for Apple, and his departure maybe not such a good thing.
 
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