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No matter how you describe it, it is still fraud!

Well, okay... I'm really just talking about this, you know? I've never done that.

LOL.

Seriously... Tim, is that you?

p.s. Back when first gen iPhone was still the only iPhone and the 3G was about to come out, I had to exchange several of them because of network issues. I was dropping calls again and was on my 5th phone... it wasn't an AT&T thing, because we'd checked that already.

So, I was at work and already knew I had to go in that week to swap this phone again. I dropped my phone and cracked the very edge of the screen... very tiny crack, but it was there, under the screen protector.

I took the phone in to have it swapped due to the network issue, didn't even mention the crack... Apple Genius gave me another phone. That was that.

I wasn't about to buy a new phone because of a crack when it already had a network issue and was dropping calls anyway.

He didn't care. Case closed. That's the only cracked item I ever returned.
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Possibly. And that isn’t really dishonest. But flat out saying it arrived damaged, which was the initial suggestion, is in fact dishonest.

Of course it is, mollyc. I get that. All people have varying levels of comfort with this sort of transaction.

I feel bad when I get handed too much change... I always return it.

If I had a watch and it was scratched, and I thought I may have done it, but I was not sure, I think I could return it and say it was like that when I got it, if it was only a few days old.

Now, if I was SURE that I did it, no... I would feel bad about that, UNLESS... there was something wrong with it more serious than a scratch that had nothing to do with being scratched.

I hope that makes sense.
 
Whatever leads to the best results is the optimal recommendation. Not everyone will agree with that, but it is what it is.
Steal one, then if something happens to the stolen one, you can use the scratched one as a backup until you can steal another. Don't dilly dally with fraud. That's a rookie move.
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Typically based on logic, in my case.
If you're using correct logic, you have some profoundly troubling premises.
 
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Steal one, then if something happens to the stolen one, you can use the scratched one as a backup until you can steal another. Don't dilly dally with fraud. That's a rookie move.
[doublepost=1537909253][/doublepost]If you're using correct logic, you have some profoundly troubling premises.

No return policy, no loophole. Cost of doing business
 
No return policy, no loophole. Cost of doing business

Apple most definitely has a return policy for UNDAMAGED items. Damaged items are excluded.

"For any undamaged product, simply return it with its included accessories and packaging along with the original receipt (or gift receipt) within 14 days of the date you receive the product, and we’ll exchange it or offer a refund based upon the original payment method."

"Our warranty doesn't cover damage caused by accidents or unauthorized modifications."

Screen damage
If your Apple Watch screen breaks accidentally, you can replace your Apple Watch for an out-of-warranty fee. The Apple warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by accident or abuse.

If your screen cracks due to a manufacturing defect, it’s covered by the Apple warranty and consumer law.

The final cost to service an accidentally damaged screen depends on your Apple Watch model, any additional damage, and if you have AppleCare+ coverage.

If you have AppleCare+, it covers up to two incidents of accidental damage. Coverage does not include cosmetic damage, such as scratches. Each incident has a service fee. You can use an incident for screen damage. If you don’t have AppleCare+, see our out-of-warranty fees.
 
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Sorry for the silly question, but I looked on the apple web site and there is nothing about choosing between sapphire and ion-x screen. Is it by case type?

Not a silly question at all. See the chart I listed below which mentions the Ion-X Glass. Also, under the ‘Tech specs’ on the mobile App, it mentions the Ion-X Glass is for the Sport model and Sapphire for the stainless model.

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I can understand the original poster’s frustration, especially when the watch is so new!

Personally, I had the S0 since launch and never had an issue with the integrity of the display, and I’m hoping the same with my S4.
 
I don’t think any of us argue with the disappointment, just the ethical ramifications of claiming it was damaged in transit.
 
Sorry to read about this. It’s exactly why I always get the SS model. The watch is on our arm and our arms tend to sway and move up, down, left and right. Banging it off things is a real reality - my SS Watch has been through a lot and is mark free.
 
i once got a chip on my car windshield directly in my field of vision, like right smack in the center. it bothered me to no end for weeks, but after awhile, it just faded into the background and i was much less annoyed. you can learn to live with it, provided you don't have OCD tendencies. or you could exchange it for a SS model! YOLO
 
So sorry that this happened to you! Your post inspired me to get AppleCare. Hope that it all works out for you. I'd go onto the apple site and chat with a rep. It's so new that maybe they will give you a break on repairs or offer to let you trade it for a new one. I've banged my series 2 and 3 around without any issues. Wondering if the new screen on the 4 will be as durable.
 
I think that Apple would take it back if you ask to exchange it for the SS model because you think it will scratch less. They can replace the glass and still sell it refurbished for a good amount. But even the sapphire has issues. On election night in 2016 I was walking through the kitchen and barely clipped my stainless steel refrigerator door handle at just the right angle and put a hairline crack down the right side of the glass. It’s not super noticeable but if it hadn’t broken in such a clean way down the side and interfered with the display I’d not have kept using it until now. And I have to be careful getting it wet. But I’ve had this Series 0 for years and it has never once gotten any scratch on the glass. I just need to be more careful with sloshing my arms about. Hopefully in that time they’ve found a way to make it stronger but I doubt it. I worry about my wife’s 40mm AL display scratching. She is new to Apple Watch and that would devastate her because she is really loving it.
 
A story for you all. I wound up with two SS S4 watches this year. Went tonight to return one.

Sales guy didn’t even LOOK at that watch. I had to pull it out and show it to him, but he wasn’t even gonna look at it.

It was in flawless condition, by the way.

This is a guy who has been at that store for YEARS.

I’m doubting they’d scan anything too closely if it was returned. And, they send all returns off to be refurbished anyway.

YMMV.
 
Sorry to read about this. It’s exactly why I always get the SS model. The watch is on our arm and our arms tend to sway and move up, down, left and right. Banging it off things is a real reality - my SS Watch has been through a lot and is mark free.
I know this is OT, but could you please change your username, if possible.

It is so long that it covers up part of what you wrote. Thanks.
 
I know this is OT, but could you please change your username, if possible.

It is so long that it covers up part of what you wrote. Thanks.

What are you using to read the forum? Confused at how it overlaps with that I say - can you post a photo so I can see it? I am on my iPhone using Tapatalk and it displays with no issues. Also checked in web form and it reads fine as well.
 
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