Screen interlacing still present on 5S

[Raibyn]

With that picture up, and control center open, my screen does flicker like crazy. Guess I have it. although I never saw it before this thread

Mine does too. I checked it with that picture before and saw no flickering, but when I open control center while viewing that pic it flickers. Can some other people with and without the screen issue try that to see if theirs flickers with control center open?

 

[Inksworth]

Mine does too. I checked it with that picture before and saw no flickering, but when I open control center while viewing that pic it flickers. Can some other people with and without the screen issue try that to see if theirs flickers with control center open?

For added effect, I just open the image in safari and tap-hold to bring up the copy/save button. That causes the whole screen to go wild.

As per your question: We have two 5s's in the house. Mine (and every replacement I've had) does this. The other phone doesn't at all under any circumstance.

 

[Raibyn]

For added effect, I just open the image in safari and tap-hold to bring up the copy/save button. That causes the whole screen to go wild.

You're right, that really shows the flickering effect.

 

[GaryLiao]

This is really getting under my nerves. I've gone through at least 6 replacements that all had this issue. All the replacements were F2 serial manufactured in week 36...

Some of the geniuses tell me to wait for a software update. That's a ton of BS, an iOS update is not going to fix incorrectly set voltages from the factory!

We should really be making more noise, especially on the apple support forums, apple doesn't look at macrumors and the geniuses even dismissed me for referencing this thread. Make the issue known and if we can, let's all fire an email to Tim Cook or make sure we talk to managers directly.

Going back for a replacement on Friday, I'm still within the return period and if anything I should be entitled to a no questions asked refund since I am unsatisfied with the product at this point. But alas once you replace the phone and the serial doesn't match up with your receipt, you're out of luck and all you can do is keep replacing.

Some tips if you're going in for a replacement though:

Bring a magnifying glass, helps them see the issue more clearly

Reference an image that has been floating around in this thread comparing the 5 and 5s screen.

If they agree to a replacement put the phone into recovery mode (press and hold home button and plug in a powered lightning cable) the blue iTunes icon will show if the screen exhibits the poorly calibrated common electrode voltage.

At first boot, iOS 7 is completely white so it is difficult to see the pixel inversion, do not let them take your original phone right away, I've noticed that all my replacement phones that have the interlacing effect are noticeably warmer

Remember, remain polite but make sure that you're stern, don't hesitate to speak to a manager directly. All of us are still in our return periods so they should be doing all they can to ensure we are satisfied with our phones.

EDIT:

Here's the link for the Apple Support Forum: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23199086#23199086

Make some noise here and reference that thread instead when going to the apple store for replacements, that way they can't say that MacRumors is "a site dedicated to finding issues with apple products when there aren't any" (I swear one manager said that to me)

 

[tylerwatt12]

Strange, I'm not getting this issue on my Space Gray 5S.
Either way, It's never bothered me, I've seen thousands of iPhone 5's at work, and none appeared to flicker, unless I specifically looked for it using OP's picture.

 

[BadLegBanks]

I'm already on my first replacement 5s, which unfortunately did not fix the problem. My advice to anyone who hasn't yet seen this effect on their phone, do not look for it. Once you notice it, it cannot be unseen. And you will go mad.

In the meantime, I recommend everyone else submitting feedback to the iPhone team via this form: http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

 

[Valkyre]

I see it on my phone... i am trying to ignore it because the device is PERFECT in any other sense.

I have to try to see it, but it still bugs me because some times i do see it , but others i dont.

I dont want to risk a replacement because i see that most people either get the problem again or get other issues like build quality etc etc/.

I am going to try and forget about it. At least its not as prominent as I see other phones are from the pics here. It is only slight interlacing on mine.

 

[adoglolwut]

So I'm back after I said I wouldn't be back. I have a huge update, for me at least.


I simply could not "accept" the interlacing. It's just SUCH a bad issue. I caved and drove 200 miles to the nearest Apple store.

Let me start by saying if you do this, do NOT go in for "interlacing issues". Tell them you want a device that doesn't have a broken compass and you will instantly get better service from them. If not, 9 times out of 10 they will flat out waste your time and tell you "I don't see it" when you try to point out the screen lines.

Moving on. I get there and the guy brings out a replacement for me and it's PERFECT. I mean absolutely FLAWLESS. I've sat here and tried as hard as I could to even see a HINT of screen interlacing, even with my massive camera lense. It's just simply not there.

This is a DN serial number.

In other words, I won the iPhone lottery. I very well could have gotten a device that was even WORSE on my first try. And who knows how they would have handled that. I would have just complained about the compass being broken again or something.

The fact that this has resorted to a "lottery" with our $400 dollar phones is sad and I will not be buying another iPhone again, at least not on launch. Apple has ruined me as a customer. I'm not even interested in the new iPad. I don't have an iPad and this was going to be my first purchase. Now, I don't even want the damn thing. You can thank Apple for that.

There's literally no advice to give for this. It was pure luck. I wish you all the best luck with your lottery tickets. The amount of stress I've gone through for this is not worth it.

 

[Triangle Man]

I see it on my phone... i am trying to ignore it because the device is PERFECT in any other sense.

I have to try to see it, but it still bugs me because some times i do see it , but others i dont.

I dont want to risk a replacement because i see that most people either get the problem again or get other issues like build quality etc etc/.

I am going to try and forget about it. At least its not as prominent as I see other phones are from the pics here. It is only slight interlacing on mine.

I'm in the same situation. It's so subtle on mine that I doubt I'd even be able to show one of the geniuses so I'm not even going to bother. Besides, I've seen screens way worse than this one and I don't wanna risk getting a screen that's worse and wishing I had kept this one.

 

[EvilQueen]

for 4/4s/3.5" screens:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6458/img1492zy.jpg

for 5/5c/5s/ipodtouch 5th gen/4" screens:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6493/img1496nd.jpg

If your screen has interlacing issues, there will be flickering near the bottom of the home screen when you set this as the default wallpaper.

For some screens, it's faint flickering, some its like epilepsy flashing, and perfect screen no flicker at all.

It's a defect, but because it's fairly common, a genius may or may not see it as an issue and think its 'within spec'.

Best to be in a retail return situation if you are picky about this sort of thing

I just got lucky getting one without it (an iPhone 5) as an AppleCare over the phone swap for a different issue. I gave up on interlacing and finally won the lottery.

the only flicker I get with that image is all over the phone with the motion background thing on. If you turn that off then no flicker.

 

[Djay]

for 4/4s/3.5" screens:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6458/img1492zy.jpg

for 5/5c/5s/ipodtouch 5th gen/4" screens:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6493/img1496nd.jpg

If your screen has interlacing issues, there will be flickering near the bottom of the home screen when you set this as the default wallpaper.

For some screens, it's faint flickering, some its like epilepsy flashing, and perfect screen no flicker at all.
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Thank you for posting the test image. Fortunately my 5 does not evidence the effect. Curious as to how prevalent this issue may be.

 

[Kidder1994]

i just put the image as a wallpaper for my iphone 5, the screen while have the wallpaper does not flicker at all, just the lines from adove to the bottom, no any movement... but the screen does flicker when i hold the finger in the image on safari to save it in my gallery, is that normal?

 

[Raibyn]

but the screen does flicker when i hold the finger in the image on safari to save it in my gallery, is that normal?

No, that is not normal and indicates the screen calibration issue we are talking about. I have a couple of iphone 5s and on the one I noticed the pixel issue it flickers on that image when I bring up the save dialog, but on the other one I have never noticed any pixel issues and it does not flicker at all.

 

[GlenK]

Thanks for the test pic. Works fine on mine, I got lucky!!!

 

[DMoggo]

i just put the image as a wallpaper for my iphone 5, the screen while have the wallpaper does not flicker at all, just the lines from adove to the bottom, no any movement... but the screen does flicker when i hold the finger in the image on safari to save it in my gallery, is that normal?

My 5s does this, very hard to see though. If I took it in for this they would think I was insane. I guess I'm one of the ones who barely sees or notices it.

 

[Kidder1994]

oh crap, why this happens to me u_u but why it happens only on the save interface and not in the homescreen for example?

 

[Claret and Blue]

No, that is not normal and indicates the screen calibration issue we are talking about. I have a couple of iphone 5s and on the one I noticed the pixel issue it flickers on that image when I bring up the save dialog, but on the other one I have never noticed any pixel issues and it does not flicker at all.

My previous white 64GB iPhone 5 didn't show up this issue using the test picture but had to be swapped out last week for random powering off problems and neither does my girlfriend's white 16GB iPhone 5. My replacement does, however, but only on that particular picture when pressing and holding to save in Safari.

Now the strange thing is that I actually PREFER my new screen to the others, regardless of any issues with that image. The screen definitely has a warmer tone to it but the colours look more natural to me. It also looks just as pin sharp on app icons and such as both my old phone and my girlfriend's, both which handled the test image perfectly.

 

[BuGjAE]

oh crap, why this happens to me u_u but why it happens only on the save interface and not in the homescreen for example?

I'm not consider flicker or interlacing line is normal for any lcd display. It's show the faulty screen ,imagine you are buying 30 inch LED monitor display and found the interlacing line. Any little problem result return the product for sure.

 

[Kidder1994]

I'm not consider flicker or interlacing line is normal for any lcd display. It's show the faulty screen ,imagine you are buying 30 inch LED monitor display and found the interlacing line. Any little problem result return the product for sure.

The wierd thing is that when i do press with the finger to make appear the save button the screen does a flicker very perceptible, BUT only on the section where the image is set, for example, the safari URL bar and the status bar, with the options bar below and the save option does not flicker... i have heard that if the screen flicker its done in movement doesnt count... and the blur effect while saving i believe obviously do some sort of movement on the screen that maybe produces the flicker

 

[BuGjAE]

If you have an iPad try saving image from safari like you do in iphone. When screen is a bit dimming or darker it will show flicker
Most of the iPad not have this problem and if iphone screen doesn't flicker at all
like iPad do. That is a perfect screen.

 

[Kidder1994]

If you have an iPad try saving image from safari like you do in iphone. When screen is a bit dimming or darker it will show flicker
Most of the iPad not have this problem and if iphone screen doesn't flicker at all
like iPad do. That is a perfect screen.

i dont have an ipad, But i did the experiment dimming the screen itself, the result is no flickering at all, but in maximun brightness the screen does a flickering in the section where the image is... idk how to explain it, let me think how i can show it

 

[Kidder1994]

Ok, Well i have the picture, the screen only flickers where the test image is, when i turn off the brightness the flicker dissapears, but while its in maximun brightness the flicker is very perceptible. i did it with control center coz it do the same effect as holding the finger to make appear the Save options

 

[BuGjAE]

Yes ,that is the problem of interlacing screen.

 

[Triangle Man]

It's one of the downsides to LCD technology. Check out this link: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php#invpattern

I'm just going to keep my iPhone 5s the way it is because it's barely noticeable (especially from a normal distance) and I've seen iPhones that are way worse than mine, so I definitely don't wanna trade it in for one that's worse.

I think I'm just going to accept that this is reality and nothing in life is going to be perfect and I should stop worrying myself over it.

Someone needs to invent some better screen technologies.

 

[Kidder1994]

this is no good, i dont have any option here to do an exchange, here in chile there is no any apple store and we are tied to the carriers who sell the phone whitout any subscription, and i already got a replacement because of a yellow tint screen with a blue tint over the status bar, this one have the same yellow tint, a little more subtle, but now i discover it have this... what could i do for god sake to get a really well made phone u_u

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It's one of the downsides to LCD technology. Check out this link: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php#invpattern

I'm just going to keep my iPhone 5s the way it is because it's barely noticeable (especially from a normal distance) and I've seen iPhones that are way worse than mine, so I definitely don't wanna trade it in for one that's worse.

I think I'm just going to accept that this is reality and nothing in life is going to be perfect and I should stop worrying myself over it.

Someone needs to invent some better screen technologies.

i was thinking the same, my notebook screen does flicker with the last image in your test (7b) so its a problem every LCD screen have?