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I was not alone, in expressing my displeasure to Nike:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nikegoat.asp

I have 6 kids, none of whom have had any merchandise with a Nike swoosh logo on it, since that ad came out. When they turn 18, they can do as they wish.
Why don't you just hide under a rock? If you take such offense to something like that you should avoid reading articles about companies. I hope you don't take your kids to Wal*mart -- there's actually a legitimate reason to avoid shopping with them. Oh, and don't use Google. They screwed the Chinese people. Yahoo! too. Maybe Ask Jeeves?

Edit: Search the internet for stories about advertising mistakes. All sorts of companies make terrible blunders like this. Sometimes one head of the hydra doesn't know what the others are doing. I guarantee you that Nike executives didn't sit down in a dimly lit meeting to snicker about an opportunity to mock the disabled. That looks like a joke which was simply misinterpreted by the hyper sensitive.
 
Search the internet for stories about advertising mistakes. All sorts of companies make terrible blunders like this... That looks like a joke which was simply misinterpreted by the hyper sensitive.[/i]

Agreed. Though I find it difficult to believe that someone at Nike does not approve of every ad representing their products, mistakes happen every day. Me, I'm one of those hyper-sensitive people who calls the cops on folks who park illegally in handicap-designated zones. I have three children with disabilities, one of whom uses a power wheelchair.
 
So you feel that belittling the disabled is senseless? I'll bet you poke fun at black people and the elderly as well, eh?

I thought the ad was pretty funny actually. I can't believe you don't have better things to do in life than failed attempts to sabotage the corporate image of Nike. There's lots of reasons to hate Nike, like the whole child-labor sweatshop stuff, or making shoes that are too narrow for sasquatches like myself. An ad with an over-the-top dark humor approach that you insist on taking literally seems like a pretty lame reason (pun is unintended). Anyways, how about trying to not de-rail this thread and start one up in the political forum or something.
 
The UI looks a little rushed and unpolished. Maybe it is just these screeshots.

Hopefully some Apple engineers will be able to give them a hand with look and feel.
 
I guess we will have to buy a new Nike+ kit I dont think the current one fits into the bottom of the iphone because of the contour, or i could be wrong who knows.
 
This looks like a solid app. Can't wait to see what other juicy details there are. I started running with Nike+ when it came out and have logged a ton of miles (didn't run before that). The goals you can set and the competitions make it kind of addictive. I'm in the process of getting in the best shape of my life. I hope this product helps other people do the same.
 
Agreed. Though I find it difficult to believe that someone at Nike does not approve of every ad representing their products, mistakes happen every day. Me, I'm one of those hyper-sensitive people who calls the cops on folks who park illegally in handicap-designated zones. I have three children with disabilities, one of whom uses a power wheelchair.

That's a though row to hoe for sure. I don't think Nike set out to intentionally offend people with disabilities though. I am sure who ever was responsible for that ad is no longer employed by them. Whats more I doubt that the individual has been touched by the difficulties of the disabled in the unique way you have. That said if I were you I might feel the same way.
 
Might get me to upgrade from Gen1 iPhone

This is great news- if the GPS is accurate enough. I ditched the Nike+ system for a Garmin Forerunner because it seemed to be only about 90% accurate, which is not good if you're seriously training. However, I miss some of the nice features and the community aspects of the Nike+ site. Here's hoping it works well...
 
This is great news.

The original Nike+ iPod kit really inspired me to run, with some help from the MacRumors runners as well.

I've been waiting for this app, and, admittedly, my running has dropped in part due to loss of that extra motivation from iPhone's lack of Nike+

Where can I sign up for beta testing?

When can we get it?
 
I'm a huge fan of the Nike+ setup. I run about 80 miles a month, and Nike+ helps me get out there on those days where my natural motivation flags.

I run on trails, so combining the GPS function of an iPhone with all the Nike+ stuff would be terrific. I'd get lost less, and my wife would be happier for both safety and "pick up some milk on your way home" reasons if I had a phone with me when I'm running. Apple will sell me an iPhone the very instant this becomes real. It's "name your price" good.

That said, I'm a little dubious about this "screenshot." How come the mileage (or kilometer-age, I suppose) at the top of the screen ("16/08 at 7:07 pm - 9.94 km") doesn't match the end mileage on the graph (6.94 km) and in the "details" footer (also 6.94 km)? That strikes me as bogus.

--Dave.
 
Hmmm. Current Nike+ users like me have no doubt noticed that Nike is advising of web-site maintenance later today/tonight. Makes me wonder if that "maintenance" might be something more, in preparation for these new products.
 
Looks like a fake to me. On the "goals" screenshot the second label reads "Set A New Goals." I think the folks at Nike would use slightly better english than that!
 
...Sometimes one head of the hydra doesn't know what the others are doing. I guarantee you that Nike executives didn't sit down in a dimly lit meeting to snicker about an opportunity to mock the disabled.

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Impossible. No company as big as Nike would run any (National or International) ads without prior approval from some big marketing heads. It's waaaaay to much money to let the kids play with it.

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Anyone with Nike+ and Nano thinks an iPhone (or even iPod Touch) would be too big to run with?
 
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Anyone with Nike+ and Nano thinks an iPhone (or even iPod Touch) would be too big to run with?

That's what I'm thinking. It's too big to run with, but I've seen people at the gym/running with a full size iPod.

Nike will need to release an armband ASAP when they finally release this app. I've read the reviews for the Belkin iPhone armband (both new and old)...and the quality seems like crap. The glue attaching the front always comes undone.
 
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Impossible. No company as big as Nike would run any (National or International) ads without prior approval from some big marketing heads. It's waaaaay to much money to let the kids play with it.

I could see it happening. Honestly. Sometimes being big can be a hindrance. Especially when you have such a huge range of product lines. Looking at their various web sites and the completely discordant branding and visual identity going on makes me really believe there's not a lot of note comparing.

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Anyone with Nike+ and Nano thinks an iPhone (or even iPod Touch) would be too big to run with?

I ran with a Touch the other day (had to borrow my wife's) on a clip. It was a little unwieldy. But I think a better, slimmer, more sports-oriented case would have helped. If you can use an armband, my instinct would be that it would work fine. I can't because of stinky sweat issues, haha.
 
Nike+ hardware?

Why should the iPhone application require the Nike+ hardware?

From Apple's site: "The Sport Kit allows your Nike+ shoe to talk to your iPod nano. The sensor uses a sensitive accelerometer to measure your activity, then wirelessly transfers this data to the receiver on your iPod nano."

It seems to me that since the iPhone already has anaccelerometer, this app should work with any shoes without special hardware. In fact, apps like RunKeeper are already available on the App Store. What value will Nike provide?

As for running with one, I'm currently running with a 3rd Generation iPod, complete with mini hard drive. It does look a little conspicuous, but it has never skipped on me.
 
I actually recently lost my iPod Nano (stolen) and the week I went without it was hell. I had no motivation to run (though I did) without knowing roughly how far or fast I was going--and running without music was not much fun either. I've become completely dependent.

The sad thing was I had to go out and buy a new one knowing there would likely be an iPod touch-based Nike+ coming soon. I had told myself that I would buy a touch when it: a) reached 32 gb, and b) included Nike+ support.

Sigh. Anyone want to buy a slightly used iPod nano in a few months? :)

Edit: Assuming this will work with the iPod touch. If iPhone only, then I'm OK. :p

I might be interested for the right price. PM me when you want to sell.
 
Well, there's 2 problems with getting rid of the sensor chip in the shoes and using the GPS.

First, this won't work on treadmills. So people would still need an accelerometer for those situations.

Second, Nike I'm sure has put a lot of money into those special Nike+ shoes, and they wouldn't be able to sell those anymore. They would essentially be left out of the partnership without the shoes, except for maybe the website.

So, I think we'll still see the chip for the shoes. Maybe Apple will just be adding in GPS functionality somehow as an extra.
 
Interesting...so it won't ditch the shoe sensor for GPS? I guess the GPS isn't accurate enough.

Well, actually it's Nike's claim to fame (they are a shoe company after all.)

If they didn't force you to go out and buy their shoes, then everyone would use that other app... RunKeeper.
 
Looking forward to this as I've recently purchased a new pair of running shoes .... the Nike Zoom Vomero 3.
 
As for boycotting Nike because of the ad quoted on the first page of this thread... well that's just utterly ridiculous. Learn to not take everything so seriously and you'll be a lot better off in life. You know they didn't mean any direct harm towards disabled people and this is proven by the fact that they recalled the ad and apologized for it. At that point, your boycott became null and void and continuing to boycott them is pointless and ignorant.



Back on topic, I think this looks really cool. I've been intrigued by the Nike+ system, but have never wanted to get an iPod nano just to use it. I don't mind the whole buying a new pair of shoes and/or getting the Nike receiver, because I could use a decent pair of running shoes anyway, and well.. you have to get the receiver to use the program. Maybe once this comes out it'll give me an added push to go on and get it, though I'm more of a walking person than running.
They really need to find a way to integrate weight training into all of this so you can keep track of your progress there as well. Then it'd be even better



Why should the iPhone application require the Nike+ hardware?

From Apple's site: "The Sport Kit allows your Nike+ shoe to talk to your iPod nano. The sensor uses a sensitive accelerometer to measure your activity, then wirelessly transfers this data to the receiver on your iPod nano."

It seems to me that since the iPhone already has anaccelerometer, this app should work with any shoes without special hardware. In fact, apps like RunKeeper are already available on the App Store. What value will Nike provide?

As for running with one, I'm currently running with a 3rd Generation iPod, complete with mini hard drive. It does look a little conspicuous, but it has never skipped on me.

I think the issue here is that the Nike sensor is more or less pressure-activated (I could be totally wrong, I haven't looked it up, but this is how I interpret it) so it counts a step with every actual step you take. With the iPod/iPhone apps, they're using the shaking of the accelerometer, which may not be entirely accurate if you're a bouncy walker or some such. It's not using a stead-fast action to count steps so it could be a bit off
 
I hope it is true. I was using my nano (2G) in the gym, but prefer my iPhone now as I can watch videos while on the exercise bike. This would allow me to start using my Nike+ again without taking both devices.

BTW, it isn't pressure-activated, it has a little accelerometer inside it to detect each pace.
 
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