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Second Annual Winter PowerPC Challenge! January 1-8, 2018
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Day 1
Spent most of the day preparing my future posts by installing all tools on my Powerbook G4 12" and some of them on the G5.
Browsed some pentesting sites on the G5 using TFF FP5b.
A lot of Macports installs in Terminal, preparing notes in TextEdit and taking screenshots.
I did have 2 hurdles with the G5
Also will have to move my 30" display to where the 27" now stands.
As such I'm currently watching shows still on the Thunderbolt display using my rMBp because of the sound
situation.
Expecting also the Newertech battery to arrive for the 14" iBook ( on which I'm currently typing this ) so
curious to compare the 12" PB G4, 12" iBook G4 and 14" iBook G4 Newertech batteries against each-other.
I might move the mSATA from the 12" iBook to my 2nd PB G4 12" and do a cleanup,re-pasting.
Spent most of the day preparing my future posts by installing all tools on my Powerbook G4 12" and some of them on the G5.
Browsed some pentesting sites on the G5 using TFF FP5b.
A lot of Macports installs in Terminal, preparing notes in TextEdit and taking screenshots.
I did have 2 hurdles with the G5
- Automatic 2 won't work so can't pull in my showrss feeds but can do this on the G4's
- I have no external speakers so even with the 30" Cinema Display which now can replace the 27"
Thunderbolt display as my couch TV , I will have to buy cheap speakers.
I thought about buying the Apple Pro Speakers (25 EUR) but the iFire Griffin needed to connect them to the G5 is ridiculously expensiv on eBay.
Also will have to move my 30" display to where the 27" now stands.
As such I'm currently watching shows still on the Thunderbolt display using my rMBp because of the sound
situation.
Expecting also the Newertech battery to arrive for the 14" iBook ( on which I'm currently typing this ) so
curious to compare the 12" PB G4, 12" iBook G4 and 14" iBook G4 Newertech batteries against each-other.
I might move the mSATA from the 12" iBook to my 2nd PB G4 12" and do a cleanup,re-pasting.
If I'm allowed to SSH into a linux box to run emacs for work then I would love to do this with you guys using my PowerBook G4!
I forgot all about this. I won't be joining this week. I need my Windows boxes at work and at home.
Still waiting on the 8GB of ram to arrive for my G5 anyways.
Ready, and Day 1
Remembering I started this challenge not only with a Pb G4 12 (1.5GH/1.25Gb Ram/60Gb SSD) but with a black and white Nokia 6510:
- The powerbook works wonderfully with my 27 Dell IPS monitor and it feels snappy.
- Google Hangouts takes a bit to load (time to drink a coffee) but after it is loaded is runs "ok", with some lag writting but it works.
- Given you got a Nokia 6510, you still need to fire up your old tomtom one from 2006, load new maps, and find the Tomtom Home version for 10.4 ppc to download the maps corrections and gps fix. Also you don't have spotify on the go, so either you listen to FM radio or fire up your old iPod Shuffle (mine is the 4th gen, so no go syncing it on the PB G4, on 10.4.11 at least).
- Also, if you want to take pictures, it is better you have a camera. I have a Xiaomi Mijia 4k Action cam, but...its sdcard was formated in exfat, no go on the G4. I found an old 4Gb sdcard formated it in fat32 and voilá.
- I also spent the night trying to have a virtual machine running (VPC7.0.3 and XP) to run Suunto Moveslink to connect my Suunto Ambit 2 sports watch, here are the findings:
MicroXP 0.8.2 runs ok, but I can't have internet. Also, later I found in this forums that it had malware inside.
Regular XP from msdnaa runs 10 times slower. Tried to install moveslink but I don't know why it doesn't open. I mailed suunto. I guess they dropped Windows XP support sometime ago (in that time I save the installer, but is some online installer so it may be messed up).
- Shiira browser 2.3 runs facebook beautifully, I guess it is some kind of mobile user agent, but is nicer than m.facebook.com on tenfourfox.
So far I am impressed with the little G4, although it is unbelievable how some stuff is so faster/simpler even on a old Tablet (Nexus 7 32Gb 2012, running Slim rom based on 4.4.4): youtube, hangouts,tapatalk for the forums, spotify.
I will try to use as little as possible this tablet on the challenge. So far only used it in the reading time.
Remembering I started this challenge not only with a Pb G4 12 (1.5GH/1.25Gb Ram/60Gb SSD) but with a black and white Nokia 6510:
- The powerbook works wonderfully with my 27 Dell IPS monitor and it feels snappy.
- Google Hangouts takes a bit to load (time to drink a coffee) but after it is loaded is runs "ok", with some lag writting but it works.
- Given you got a Nokia 6510, you still need to fire up your old tomtom one from 2006, load new maps, and find the Tomtom Home version for 10.4 ppc to download the maps corrections and gps fix. Also you don't have spotify on the go, so either you listen to FM radio or fire up your old iPod Shuffle (mine is the 4th gen, so no go syncing it on the PB G4, on 10.4.11 at least).
- Also, if you want to take pictures, it is better you have a camera. I have a Xiaomi Mijia 4k Action cam, but...its sdcard was formated in exfat, no go on the G4. I found an old 4Gb sdcard formated it in fat32 and voilá.
- I also spent the night trying to have a virtual machine running (VPC7.0.3 and XP) to run Suunto Moveslink to connect my Suunto Ambit 2 sports watch, here are the findings:
MicroXP 0.8.2 runs ok, but I can't have internet. Also, later I found in this forums that it had malware inside.
Regular XP from msdnaa runs 10 times slower. Tried to install moveslink but I don't know why it doesn't open. I mailed suunto. I guess they dropped Windows XP support sometime ago (in that time I save the installer, but is some online installer so it may be messed up).
- Shiira browser 2.3 runs facebook beautifully, I guess it is some kind of mobile user agent, but is nicer than m.facebook.com on tenfourfox.
So far I am impressed with the little G4, although it is unbelievable how some stuff is so faster/simpler even on a old Tablet (Nexus 7 32Gb 2012, running Slim rom based on 4.4.4): youtube, hangouts,tapatalk for the forums, spotify.
I will try to use as little as possible this tablet on the challenge. So far only used it in the reading time.
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My first day was pretty relaxed, i slept through the day, but when i woke up i had no problems using my setup to watch some YT videos using PPC Media Center..
About my setup:
- A 14 inch 1.33 GHz iBook G4
- Secondary 720p Display
- 768 MB RAM
- Mobility Radeon 9200
- 60 GB HDD
- Bluetooth 1.1 (A dongle)
- Apple Pro Keyboard M7803 (I found it for 1$ at a car-boot sale
)
But my favorite part of the setup is the audio part of it: I am using a LOEWE Stereo Amplifier (Model no: SA 3480) that is hooked up to 2x 15 watt Stern Radio speakers, i absolutely love the sound these wooden boxes put out!
Unfortunately i dropped my iPhone 3GS and completely shattered the display , and because of that i will have to use my iPhone 5S
Here are pictures of my setup (And my phone):
, and because of that i will have to use my iPhone 5SHere are pictures of my setup (And my phone):
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One thing I almost regret. Owning and using "newer" computers. When I first started with computers my PM G4 QS was really fast to me and it did everything well. Then comes my i5 Thinkpad with 8GB of RAM and an SSD in 2010 and all that is ruined for all time. Now I have a hard time using a PPC as my main machine since I'm so used to blazing fast computers. Wish I could have stayed in the PPC bubble forever. I am happy with my G5 though, It is really snappy and I fire it up and use it almost more often than my C2D Mac Mini now.
I was just having a similar conversation with my fiance about my iMac G3. I was still using an iMac G3 as a main machine back in 2007, and at the time I had no issues with it whatsoever. Fast forward to now, and having built a $2,000 gaming rig, even trying to edit an HTML file for my website on a PowerPC machine is excruciating. It really does suck too, because I WANT to use them.
I am actually in the process of completely re-designing one of my websites on my G4 Cube. And I plan to put that in the credits.
Just out of curiousity , can't you run emacs on your Powerbook ?
I tried but had no success. I should try again though. If I could get emacs running the only other thing I'd need would be git (which is there) and then docker, which I could use the remote machine for.
Day 1:
Not much computing was done, but shut everything down aside from my iMac G4 and PowerMac G5. Unfortunately, my sister got a new phone, and she needed her old phone cloned back to the new one, which involves iTunes. iTunes on PPC clearly cannot interface with a brand new iPhone 8, let alone her previous iPhone 6S, so i had to pull back out one of my MacBook Pros (my 2010 17in to be specific) and did the restore for her, but immediately once that was done, i put it back away. In the evening, I usually watch my fair share of youtube videos on my 17in MBP, so i decided to grab one of my iPad 1s to watch YouTube on. I went to grab my AirPods, and uh oh, they're not compatible... not immediately. I had to manually pair them via Bluetooth, which I had never done before since I was used to them automatically connecting to my modern technology. While it was missing the fancy features, the AirPods did work, and worked quite well with my iPad to watch YouTube.
Day 2 (As of writing):
So far today, i disassembled the top case from my 15in DLSD to put it back onto the 15in SLSD from which it came, so I could use a PPC laptop. Upon turning on the SLSD for the first time in ages, i forgot i barely installed any apps on here. So I downloaded PPCAppStore and loaded up the PowerBook with various apps. I then setup iChat with Jabber to connect to my group chat, which also works quite well. Next task for today is to keep ripping, er uh, transcribing songs from Spotify so i can put them onto my 2nd Gen iPod. So far so good for Day 2
Not much computing was done, but shut everything down aside from my iMac G4 and PowerMac G5. Unfortunately, my sister got a new phone, and she needed her old phone cloned back to the new one, which involves iTunes. iTunes on PPC clearly cannot interface with a brand new iPhone 8, let alone her previous iPhone 6S, so i had to pull back out one of my MacBook Pros (my 2010 17in to be specific) and did the restore for her, but immediately once that was done, i put it back away. In the evening, I usually watch my fair share of youtube videos on my 17in MBP, so i decided to grab one of my iPad 1s to watch YouTube on. I went to grab my AirPods, and uh oh, they're not compatible... not immediately
. I had to manually pair them via Bluetooth, which I had never done before since I was used to them automatically connecting to my modern technology. While it was missing the fancy features, the AirPods did work, and worked quite well with my iPad to watch YouTube.Day 2 (As of writing):
So far today, i disassembled the top case from my 15in DLSD to put it back onto the 15in SLSD from which it came, so I could use a PPC laptop. Upon turning on the SLSD for the first time in ages, i forgot i barely installed any apps on here. So I downloaded PPCAppStore and loaded up the PowerBook with various apps. I then setup iChat with Jabber to connect to my group chat, which also works quite well. Next task for today is to keep ripping, er uh, transcribing songs from Spotify so i can put them onto my 2nd Gen iPod. So far so good for Day 2
Day 2
So I swore that I would use the iBook's in this challenge and since my back has been killing me today
I've been using the 14" also because I like the more-chicklet keyboard over the one of the Powerbook 12".
My PPC use began when I came back home from work.
I fired up Automatic 2 which pulled in my ShowRSS feed to startup uTorrent.
Downloading took 5 minutes for one episode of The Gifted and that was the time it took to prepare a Cup-A-Noodles, perfect.
The iBook G4 14" clearly isn't capable of playing back x264 using Coreplayer on battery with Better performance so I setup my OmnichargePro linked with the Lizone 3-in-1 charger so it had full power to watch my serie during dinner.
After dinner I copied some stuff from a Lacie TB/USB3 HDD using USB3 on the G5 to a SanDisk USB3 stick .
This expensive Sandisk 64 GB has proven it's value more often since even on USB 2.0 it really copies fast to any G4 I own.
As such I have some video series I want to watch on the train commute tomorrow morning on which this year I will take the iBook G4 14".
I then started pasting my preperations from TextEdit and edited and created my "Pentest" .
Again this is where the iBook G4 shows it's lesser power to the Powerbook.
TFF-FP5b :
I accidentely opened 5 weblinks in tabs and everything crawled to a spinning beachball of death , I rebooted but couldn't even open
TFF anymore since it kept trying to re-open these tabs and still resulting in a spinning beachball of death.
Roccat :
I was happily working on battery, almost at 2/3rd of my thread post when I started to notice that scrolling the text would result in ghost
images.
When I finished my thread and clicked on "Create Thread" , nothing happened ?
I quickly did a CMD-A , CMD-C to be sure I still had all my text since I had been typing/editing for 1 hour.
Luckily I did so , all of the sudden I no longer had an IP addres whilst still being connected to my WiFi .
As such I'm now connected via network cable .
Multi-tasking :
on the Powerbook G4 12" with has a PATA SSD and a Newertech battery , I can easily use Coreplayer and still browse in TFF or better in LWK/Roccat , I'm on charger on the Ethernet cable now and I can type faster than the buffer can paste in this window but browsing and video playback on the iBook looks feasible but struggling.
Well I'm going to play around with GNS3 a bit further running Juniper virtual routers/switches on this iBook before going to bed.
Oh, the pictures were taken with my iPhone 5C and then emailed via Gmail (4G) to Gmail in TFF and then downloaded since I have no other camera nor can I use ImageCapture to get the pictures of my iPhone , is there an easier way for this ? Cable ?
So I swore that I would use the iBook's in this challenge and since my back has been killing me today
I've been using the 14" also because I like the more-chicklet keyboard over the one of the Powerbook 12".
My PPC use began when I came back home from work.
I fired up Automatic 2 which pulled in my ShowRSS feed to startup uTorrent.
Downloading took 5 minutes for one episode of The Gifted and that was the time it took to prepare a Cup-A-Noodles, perfect.
The iBook G4 14" clearly isn't capable of playing back x264 using Coreplayer on battery with Better performance so I setup my OmnichargePro linked with the Lizone 3-in-1 charger so it had full power to watch my serie during dinner.
After dinner I copied some stuff from a Lacie TB/USB3 HDD using USB3 on the G5 to a SanDisk USB3 stick .
This expensive Sandisk 64 GB has proven it's value more often since even on USB 2.0 it really copies fast to any G4 I own.
As such I have some video series I want to watch on the train commute tomorrow morning on which this year I will take the iBook G4 14".
I then started pasting my preperations from TextEdit and edited and created my "Pentest" .
Again this is where the iBook G4 shows it's lesser power to the Powerbook.
TFF-FP5b :
I accidentely opened 5 weblinks in tabs and everything crawled to a spinning beachball of death , I rebooted but couldn't even open
TFF anymore since it kept trying to re-open these tabs and still resulting in a spinning beachball of death.
Roccat :
I was happily working on battery, almost at 2/3rd of my thread post when I started to notice that scrolling the text would result in ghost
images.
When I finished my thread and clicked on "Create Thread" , nothing happened ?
I quickly did a CMD-A , CMD-C to be sure I still had all my text since I had been typing/editing for 1 hour.
Luckily I did so , all of the sudden I no longer had an IP addres whilst still being connected to my WiFi .
As such I'm now connected via network cable .
Multi-tasking :
on the Powerbook G4 12" with has a PATA SSD and a Newertech battery , I can easily use Coreplayer and still browse in TFF or better in LWK/Roccat , I'm on charger on the Ethernet cable now and I can type faster than the buffer can paste in this window but browsing and video playback on the iBook looks feasible but struggling.
Well I'm going to play around with GNS3 a bit further running Juniper virtual routers/switches on this iBook before going to bed.
Oh, the pictures were taken with my iPhone 5C and then emailed via Gmail (4G) to Gmail in TFF and then downloaded since I have no other camera nor can I use ImageCapture to get the pictures of my iPhone , is there an easier way for this ? Cable ?
There are some brilliant HTML editors for PowerPC which I still put to use in my arsenal;
And you should be able to keep emacs up to date via MacPorts or Tigerbrew.
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Yeah, I use TextWrangler on all of my macs, PowerPC, or present. I really like how it highlights everything.
I’ll kick off my challenge journal:
Day 1 - A write off. I was in no fit state to turn on a computer. Spent most of the day recovering at the beach while the kids splashed around and my beautiful wife nursed me back to good health.
Day 2 - Fired up my Mac Pro to grab my Xcode project files. Then fired up two G5s (One for Tiger, the other for Leopard) and got started on my work using the G5s. As I’ve been building my current project in a mixed Intel/PowerPC environment already, this was a smooth transition.
It was a stupidly hot and humid day and the G5s (and I) suffered in the heat. It was like working in a sauna (no AC, just a ceiling fan). We got through it though. There was one forced sleep due to the heat on the Dual 2.0, so I had to keep it on “Reduced” speed in Energy Saver to keep the temps down. I’m glad I did the re-paste just in time for the Queensland summer heatwave.
I still kept the Mac Pro running for the sake of Synergy and using my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but the screen was switched off for most of the day. I ran iTunes 9.2.1 in Tiger to share my MP’s iTunes library and play music through my audio system (connected via a digidesign Mbox 1 purchased 2004).
At night, I shut everything down and then continued on with my work from the couch using the PowerBook 12” booting between Tiger and Leopard as needed. The battery longevity is great in Tiger (about 4.5hrs). WiFi and BT switched off - internet access is typically just a distraction for me.
I’ll try shuffling things around next to reduce the need to switch on the MP.
Day 1 - A write off. I was in no fit state to turn on a computer. Spent most of the day recovering at the beach while the kids splashed around and my beautiful wife nursed me back to good health.
Day 2 - Fired up my Mac Pro to grab my Xcode project files. Then fired up two G5s (One for Tiger, the other for Leopard) and got started on my work using the G5s. As I’ve been building my current project in a mixed Intel/PowerPC environment already, this was a smooth transition.
It was a stupidly hot and humid day and the G5s (and I) suffered in the heat. It was like working in a sauna (no AC, just a ceiling fan). We got through it though. There was one forced sleep due to the heat on the Dual 2.0, so I had to keep it on “Reduced” speed in Energy Saver to keep the temps down. I’m glad I did the re-paste just in time for the Queensland summer heatwave.
I still kept the Mac Pro running for the sake of Synergy and using my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but the screen was switched off for most of the day. I ran iTunes 9.2.1 in Tiger to share my MP’s iTunes library and play music through my audio system (connected via a digidesign Mbox 1 purchased 2004).
At night, I shut everything down and then continued on with my work from the couch using the PowerBook 12” booting between Tiger and Leopard as needed. The battery longevity is great in Tiger (about 4.5hrs). WiFi and BT switched off - internet access is typically just a distraction for me.
I’ll try shuffling things around next to reduce the need to switch on the MP.