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Second-Generation iPad Air May Get Memory Boost to 2 GB

D.T. said:
A 2GB iPad Air (with TouchID, etc., ... in white with 64GB please ... :D ) is a day one purchase for me to replace our 4th Gen, which will find a happy new home with my parents where can look at pics and videos of their beautiful grand daughter all day :)



Not only was there a jump-the-gun/misinterpretation, but holy heck, did he really just post CC transactions (with dates and locations) to a pubic website? While I realize the number isn’t exposed, it’s that sort of information that’s the foundation for hacking an account.
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That wasn't a good idea.

Trapezoid said:
There's a troll in this very thread. I wont name names because I don't know the rules and I don't want to get banned, but it's quite obvious. Yet you either turned a blind eye to it, or didn't notice it. I think the latter is less likely because there have been people in this thread who've called the person out...

Look, I get it, Apple users are annoying. No one can deny that (and if they do, they're lying). But I'm being honest when I say it doesn't make you look any better when you pile on them for things that Samsung fans do also.

If you had quoted that guy who said get bent I for sure would not have disagreed with you. But when you say things like "Apple users would just say, it's not the same", I have to call that out, because Samsung users say literally the exact same thing or variations of the exact same thing (again, not kinda sorta...the exact same thing...)

Honesty when you post is a good thing.
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A) When I first started reading, I assumed you meant I as a troll. If so, I am horribly offended. If not, I need to go read over this topic maybe and figure out who it is you're talking about.
B) I skim-read. Seriously, when somebody ends up responding to me I kind of start ignoring most of the other posts in a thread. It's a horrible idea, I know, but I get so focused on responding back to the person who quoted me that I might as well not be posting in a thread with others but a one-on-one.
C) You're probably right. Samsung fans can be horrible as well. I guess I just notice it more.
D) Yes, honesty is a good thing. I try to practice it here as much as possible.
 
Michael Goff said:
That wasn't a good idea.



A) When I first started reading, I assumed you meant I as a troll. If so, I am horribly offended. If not, I need to go read over this topic maybe and figure out who it is you're talking about.
B) I skim-read. Seriously, when somebody ends up responding to me I kind of start ignoring most of the other posts in a thread. It's a horrible idea, I know, but I get so focused on responding back to the person who quoted me that I might as well not be posting in a thread with others but a one-on-one.
C) You're probably right. Samsung fans can be horrible as well. I guess I just notice it more.
D) Yes, honesty is a good thing. I try to practice it here as much as possible.
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Nope definitely not talking about you. I actually enjoy your posts most of the time. It's just the ones like the one I called out that get to me (and thats not singling you out, if you check my post history I call out anyone who does that, on either side).
 
Trapezoid said:
Nope definitely not talking about you. I actually enjoy your posts most of the time. It's just the ones like the one I called out that get to me (and thats not singling you out, if you check my post history I call out anyone who does that, on either side).
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That's a first.

Most people don't actually enjoy my posts. XD
 
No one is going to turn down "free" additional memory. What if the iPad still came with 1 GB of RAM, but had the option to add 1 GB more, how much more would you pay for that option?
 
I know we're talking about RAM here but if the base model doesn't have at least 32gb of storage, that's just a bad Apple. Looking to get an iPad this fall because iOS 8 actually has some very useful features. My LG G3 has 32gb of storage, 3gb of RAM, and it's rocking a 1440p screen. Cmon Apple, you can do it. I have faith in you. God knows why but there's a little hope lol
 
The iPad is ready for 2 GB of RAM. Much needed to prevent Safari tabs from refreshing all the time.

The iPhone does not need 2 GB as desperately. Multiple tabs are not as easy to use on iPhone and thus doesn't get used the way the iPad does. Makes sense. Different devices, different needs.

Besides 2 GB of RAM will consume (potentially) twice as much power as 1 GB did, and the iPad can bear the brunt of that. The iPhone cannot afford that.
 
Padmini said:
The iPad is ready for 2 GB of RAM. Much needed to prevent Safari tabs from refreshing all the time.

The iPhone does not need 2 GB as desperately. Multiple tabs are not as easy to use on iPhone and thus doesn't get used the way the iPad does. Makes sense. Different devices, different needs.

Besides 2 GB of RAM will consume (potentially) twice as much power as 1 GB did, and the iPad can bear the brunt of that. The iPhone cannot afford that.
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Yes. Having 1GB of RAM rarely feels stifling on my 5s, but on my Air it's a nightmare at times (read: all the time) when using Safari.
 
Padmini said:
The iPad is ready for 2 GB of RAM. Much needed to prevent Safari tabs from refreshing all the time.

The iPhone does not need 2 GB as desperately. Multiple tabs are not as easy to use on iPhone and thus doesn't get used the way the iPad does. Makes sense. Different devices, different needs.

Besides 2 GB of RAM will consume (potentially) twice as much power as 1 GB did, and the iPad can bear the brunt of that. The iPhone cannot afford that.
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I do agree that the iPad needs 2GB - with extensions coming and the possibility of split-screen multitasking even more so. Extensions are basically "mini-apps" running inside of the main app, so that means things will be getting bumped out of RAM even faster than they are now.

But as for power usage, the amount of power that RAM takes is a tiny fraction of a percentage compared to the display, processor and cellular radios. Yes, it will be close to twice as much in theory, but doubling a small amount still leaves you with a small amount. In fact I would bet that reduced reliance on the flash storage would nearly even it out (More apps could stay open in RAM, so when switching apps no loading from disk would take place.)
 
jclardy said:
I do agree that the iPad needs 2GB - with extensions coming and the possibility of split-screen multitasking even more so. Extensions are basically "mini-apps" running inside of the main app, so that means things will be getting bumped out of RAM even faster than they are now.

But as for power usage, the amount of power that RAM takes is a tiny fraction of a percentage compared to the display, processor and cellular radios. Yes, it will be close to twice as much in theory, but doubling a small amount still leaves you with a small amount. In fact I would bet that reduced reliance on the flash storage would nearly even it out (More apps could stay open in RAM, so when switching apps no loading from disk would take place.)
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Great post. I agree, iOS8 (and future updates) are introducing OS features that can/will use more memory and the power costs are minimal.

I’d assuming for economy-of-scale, unless there’s more than a single digit percentage of battery use difference, if any A8 devices are 2GB, all A8 devices will be 2GB.
 
If the main reason for 2GB is to give multi-tasking a real chance with iOS 8, why not include the same RAM in the 4.7" & 5.5" phones so they can share the same experience???
 
joeblow7777 said:
Not sure if you're joking, but I've never understood this response from people. Why wouldn't a company use the ideas that worked for competitors, in any industry? It's called not reinventing the wheel, and it's what drives improvement.
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People respond like this because it is incredibly hypocritical of Apple and some of its fans, because it's spent countless millions and hours suing everyone it 'claims' has copied them, yet it's perfectly fine for they themselves to blindly copy everyone else.
Is that hard to understand?

Anyway it's about time at least one iOS device got 2GB RAM.
 
cababah said:
If the main reason for 2GB is to give multi-tasking a real chance with iOS 8, why not include the same RAM in the 4.7" & 5.5" phones so they can share the same experience???
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If that didn't happen it would probably have something to do with multi-window mode would be impractical on such small devices.

I'm "pleased" with my 64GB iPad 4... down from "delighted" after I was "forced" to install iOS 7.x (performance took a hit :( ). I didn't see a reason to upgrade to an Air.

If Apple were to produce an Air 2 that had 2GB RAM, and support for an active stylus (or support for BT mouse) I would seriously consider upgrading.
 
apolloa said:
People respond like this because it is incredibly hypocritical of Apple and some of its fans, because it's spent countless millions and hours suing everyone it 'claims' has copied them, yet it's perfectly fine for they themselves to blindly copy everyone else.
Is that hard to understand?

Anyway it's about time at least one iOS device got 2GB RAM.
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I know, and my comment was really targeted at people on both sides. Apple should incorporate ideas that are proven to be good ones, and Samsung should do the same. Consumers benefit from all companies producing the best products possible, but fanboys always want to see all competition squashed.
 
Mackan said:
There are two kinds of people; those who believe there are always technical reasons to why a company don't add a certain feature or upgrade, and those who see it for what it really is...

It's in Apple's best interest (shareholders, because nothing else matters I guess) to make you buy new and upgrade as often as possible. Because of that, they are withholding features to later revisions. They are stretching out incremental hardware upgrades over as many years as possible. They are in total control over their devices and what software "works" with them.

Do we enjoy this world? Do we enjoy growing old waiting for tech that could have been there many years ago, but isn't, because companies need to milk you on money to reward their shareholders?
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I agree that it's in Apple's best interest to keep us coming back for more. But if they do that by delaying ready technology for a year, they run the risk that we will go somewhere else for more.

I'm not saying they wouldn't hold back technology to get us to buy again next year, if they could get away with it. I'm saying it would be a bad strategy, because they risk alienating their customers, and therefore holding back tech for that reason would be bad for shareholders.

Technology moves at a fast enough pace that Apple can provide newer and better each year without artificially holding back last-year's tech for this year's products. I don't believe in your conspiracy theory because there's no reason for it.
 
prism said:
Honestly if they boost the sram to 2gb, it will just prove that the original Air was just a crippled device that could never be fixed with any amount of software optimization. Pathetic and annoying as I'm going to have to sell my Air to replace it with what it should have been.
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That's funny, my iPad Air works almost perfectly. Moving in and out of apps is fluid, and I have yet to run an app that causes problems on it. I say "almost" because of the Safari tab reloads. Depending on what other apps are open, it's been as bad as only 3 tabs before they reload. Still, everything else I throw at the iPad, it does very well. Why get so worked up over one thing? Life is too short to focus on the negative aspects of something when the positives are overwhelming.

Michael Goff said:
We're going o have to disagree there. On this very forum, there's a thread with a post that is essentially "You'll take what Apple gives you and be grateful for it" as if the consumer shouldn't want something better.
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The post you quoted implies nothing about being "grateful for it". The writer of that post is merely saying that Apple isn't going to go out of their way to cater to people with very specific wants and needs. It will make products that provide the majority of users with a smooth and solid experience. Apple simply won't cover every usage scenario; those who have needs that Apple doesn't currently provide for should look elsewhere.

In summary, we have options. Nobody is forced to buy Apple products, therefore it's counterproductive to get upset about Apple's decisions. Criticism is one thing, but so many people here on the MacRumors forums can't seem to criticize Apple without getting worked up and full of hyperbole.
 
Piggie said:
I disagree 100%

Put two iPads on sale, side by side, one with a flash unit and one without it, and see which one people buy.
Most will buy the one with the flash as it won't have any negatives, it virtually a no cost option, and can only be something useful if you need it.

Another one of those items that if Apple had always put a flash unit on the back, as they have with the phone, it would be considered an obvious thing to have, which is is with any camera.

Other brands that did not have a flash would be then picked out as stupid for not including one, with comments about how rubbish they are for anything other than taking a photo in good lighting.
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The same goes for the IR Blaster. Put two iPads side by side, one with an IR blaster and one without, and see which one people buy.
Apple has a list of possible new features they could include on the iPad. They won't do them all, because each one costs money and takes up room in the device. So they start crossing items off the list. So far, the IR blaster and the flash unit didn't make the cut.

Like I said, if you really want it, make sure Apple knows. They've been known to change their minds. You could convince ME that a flash is a good idea, but I don't make that decision for them.
 
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