No problems on my Mini. Have not updated iBook. Your right thought they should test more!GodBless said:Why do security updates always seem to cause system problems?
It seems like every time I read a security thread at least one person has a problem.
Can't Apple do at least a little more testing before the security updates are released?
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I hate the new numbering scheme it makes everything so much more complicated! At least with dates you know what you've already downloaded
Took my PowerBook about an extra minute to shut down or so. ALWAYS let a shutdown/restart play out its course, do not force it. And repair permissions beforehand. That way you don't mess up your computer!
And the iPoop has a 1-mouse button... and no 802.11a support... and doesn't work with iCrap...
And the iPoop has a 1-mouse button... and no 802.11a support... and doesn't work with iCrap...
GodBless said:
You can't make a blanket statement like that. How much "more testing" before it's enough for you? Issues are usually related to third-party hardware and/or software. Apple can't test it all.
I've installed every single update in the past 3 years on multiple Macs without a single issue.
maybe the ipod goes back
Does anybody think they may ezxtend this to the iPod and go away from the date thing there as well. It was alawys a pain to remember if the update was the "11/11 or 11/15 or I downloaded it on 11/30...I can't remember." It would have been easier to remember it was update 2004-014, for example. Each iPod line could keep it's own version number, and everybody would be happy (except the date people
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Does anybody think they may ezxtend this to the iPod and go away from the date thing there as well. It was alawys a pain to remember if the update was the "11/11 or 11/15 or I downloaded it on 11/30...I can't remember." It would have been easier to remember it was update 2004-014, for example. Each iPod line could keep it's own version number, and everybody would be happy (except the date people
).no problems here
Installed this the other day with no problem. As a general rule I always repair permissions and do a restart before running any update. Might as well clear out any possible errors before running the update.
Installed this the other day with no problem. As a general rule I always repair permissions and do a restart before running any update. Might as well clear out any possible errors before running the update.
still works
I didn't even know this feature existed. I tried it before and after running the update and nothing changed.
aesth3tic said:
I didn't even know this feature existed. I tried it before and after running the update and nothing changed.
No problems installing on my old tangerine iMac or my flat panel iMac. I've noticed that the negative count has been steadily increasing since this was first posted. Any particular reason? I haven't seen any problems with it so far.
Longpoop available n 2006? when did we start believing anything Microsoft says? Longpoop part 1 maybe, it won't work decently until at least three Save Our Software updates are hastily dispatched.
My iMacs (G3 600Mhz and G5 1.8GHz) must be something special because I haven't experienced an update problems to date. I am sure that there are a few. But the number of negative responces to this update leave me wondering.
Even if my G3 is just an iTunes/folding machine now though I still keep it updated. Apart from extended optimizing time it works fine.
Something tells me that Apples recent run is generating some resentment in the PC world.
Just to rub it in, I converted someone recently. She came over to add to a presentation we did recently and decided that her next computer would be an Apple, just by using this one. She asked where the rest of it was and I told her that what she was looking at was the whole computer. She said that's cool, my G5 is pimp.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA Dell.
My iMacs (G3 600Mhz and G5 1.8GHz) must be something special because I haven't experienced an update problems to date. I am sure that there are a few. But the number of negative responces to this update leave me wondering.
Even if my G3 is just an iTunes/folding machine now though I still keep it updated. Apart from extended optimizing time it works fine.
Something tells me that Apples recent run is generating some resentment in the PC world.
Just to rub it in, I converted someone recently. She came over to add to a presentation we did recently and decided that her next computer would be an Apple, just by using this one. She asked where the rest of it was and I told her that what she was looking at was the whole computer. She said that's cool, my G5 is pimp.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA Dell.
djjon said:
I agree I always liked chronologically sorted dates. Is apple being a deconstructive exasperater in this situation? I honored them for using my dating system that rarely anyone else uses. It seems like I've been seeing it more and more until now.
I thought Apple would be a part of the revolutionary dating system. Looks like they'd rather make room for 999 security updates a year instead of 365. 
Your update software tells you when an update is needed, the numbering system is worthless for users really, isn't it? I don't really know what the numbering is for, but all I do is hit the software update and download the software it tells me that I need. Seems kind of pointless to me, probably an internal thing, just a guess.
Don't bother installing an antivirus.Platform said:Thank you
So no need bothering with antivirus on the mac now
But DO bother learning those rules and living by them:
- Never log on with your administrator account. Always use an unpriviledged account, OSX will ask for the admin password when it really needs it.
- When installing software make sure it comes from a trusted source.
- When asked for the administrator password, double check the source of the program you got, it's okay to trust Apple or this Adobe CD, but watch out for downloaded content...
- Backup, backup, backup. CDR/W are cheap now. At the very least, make an archive of the files you want to save the most and put them on a private .mac store.
- Stay the hell away from Internet Explorer, or any scriptable application which suffers the Kitchen-Sink syndrome.
This are the rules my gf an I live by, both under windows and Mac, and we still are clear from any harm. Even after both PC hd failed last month. (rsync be praised!
)
Palad1 said:Don't bother installing an antivirus.
But DO bother learning those rules and living by them:
- Never log on with your administrator account. Always use an unpriviledged account, OSX will ask for the admin password when it really needs it.
- When installing software make sure it comes from a trusted source.
- When asked for the administrator password, double check the source of the program you got, it's okay to trust Apple or this Adobe CD, but watch out for downloaded content...
- Backup, backup, backup. CDR/W are cheap now. At the very least, make an archive of the files you want to save the most and put them on a private .mac store.
- Stay the hell away from Internet Explorer, or any scriptable application which suffers the Kitchen-Sink syndrome.
This are the rules my gf an I live by, both under windows and Mac, and we still are clear from any harm. Even after both PC hd failed last month. (rsync be praised!
Thank you VERY much
But i don't know a lot about mac software/installations++
You said that never log on as an admin, so hav two accounts(the user switching thing) or is it something different
Platform said:Thank you
So no need bothering with antivirus on the mac now
One of the advantages of Apple being a small part of the market. The true test will come when or if they gain more market share. It seems market share makes a computer maker a target, I am sure they have this in mind though. I really hope that Apple is above profiteering from such an insidious enterprise.
Platform said:You said that never log on as an admin, so hav two accounts(the user switching thing) or is it something different
You're quite there. Create one main account with administrator privileges, and your day to day account without admin privileges.
You won't enven need to switch from one to the other, OSX will detect when a program needs to be run with administrator privileges, and will popup a window explaining that in order to run, program XXX (mostly software updates and installers) needs 'Administrator Privilieges' and kindly ask for an administrator name and password.
I don't have a Mac at work, but I'm sure others will be kind enough and provide screenshots of what I'm talking about
Cheers,
Palad1
Palad1 said:You're quite there. Create one main account with administrator privileges, and your day to day account without admin privileges.
You won't enven need to switch from one to the other, OSX will detect when a program needs to be run with administrator privileges, and will popup a window explaining that in order to run, program XXX (mostly software updates and installers) needs 'Administrator Privilieges' and kindly ask for an administrator name and password.
I don't have a Mac at work, but I'm sure others will be kind enough and provide screenshots of what I'm talking about
Cheers,
Palad1
Thank you
So there will be two account that you can switch from and only one that you really use. the other just because the computer needs an admin account
Severe problem with update, any ideas?
I have updated my PBG4, 800MHz, DVI, 512MB, OS10.3.7 with this new security patch. Since my powerbook heats a lot and the fan is always on, the HD seams to be always looking for data, and suddenly the pointer start to go in rolling wheel mode with no repsonse from the computer. It's blocked.
I have run disk utility to repare permissions, tryed a clean-up with OsiriX (it never finished). The only thing I can do is use my laptop to warm-up my hands...
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I have updated my PBG4, 800MHz, DVI, 512MB, OS10.3.7 with this new security patch. Since my powerbook heats a lot and the fan is always on, the HD seams to be always looking for data, and suddenly the pointer start to go in rolling wheel mode with no repsonse from the computer. It's blocked.
I have run disk utility to repare permissions, tryed a clean-up with OsiriX (it never finished). The only thing I can do is use my laptop to warm-up my hands...
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Installed on a 2002 QuickSilver G4-733: Separate OS 10.2.8 and 10.3.7 hard drives.
Panther drive's Safari 1.2.4 (v125.12) seems okay, so far. I'm not sure if that revision number changed with the update.
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IF YOU THINK YOU'RE DUMB ABOUT COMPUTERS, READ THIS, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.
Take heart, anyone among you who believes he or she is technologically challenged, you "ain't seen nuthin" yet. This is an excerpt from a Wall Street Journal article:*
1. Compaq is considering changing the command "Press Any Key" to "Press Return Key" because of the flood of calls asking where the "Any" key is.
2. AST technical support had a caller complaining that her mouse was hard to control with the dust cover on. The cover turned out to be the plastic bag the mouse was packaged in.
3. Another Dell customer called to say he couldn't get his computer to fax anything. After 40 minutes of troubleshooting, the technician discovered the man was trying to fax a piece of paper by holding it in front of the monitor screen and hitting the "Send" key.
4. Yet another Dell customer called to complain that his keyboard no longer worked. He had cleaned it by filling up his bathtub with soap and water and soaking the keyboard for a day, then removing all the keys and washing them individually.
5. A Dell technician received a call from a customer who was enraged because his computer had told him he was "Bad and an invalid." The tech explained that the computer's "bad command" and "invalid" responses shouldn't be taken personally.
6. A confused caller to IBM was having trouble printing documents. He told the technician that the computer had said it "couldn't find printer." The user had also tried turning the computer screen to face the printer-but that his computer still couldn't "see" the printer.
7. An exasperated caller to Dell Computer Tech Support couldn't get her new Dell Computer to turn on. After ensuring the computer was plugged in, the technician asked her what happened when she pushed the power button. Her response, "I pushed and pushed on this foot pedal and nothing happened." The "foot pedal" turned out to be the computer's mouse...
8. Another customer called Compaq tech support to say her brand new computer wouldn't work. She said she unpacked the unit, plugged it in and sat there for 20 minutes waiting for something to happen. When asked what happened when she pressed the power switch, she asked, "What power switch?"
9. Another IBM customer had trouble installing software and rang for support. "I put in the first disk, and that was OK. It said to put in the second disk, and had some problems with the disk. When it said to put in the third disk, I couldn't even fit it in..." The user hadn't realized that "Insert Disk 2" implied removing Disk 1 first.
10. A story from a Novell NetWare SysOp:
CALLER: "Hello, is this Tech Support?"
TECH: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?"
CALLER: "The cup holder on my PC is broken -and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?"
TECH: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?"
CALLER: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer."
TECH: "Please excuse me. If I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?"
CALLER: "It came with my computer. I don't know anything about a promotional. It just has '4X' on it."
At this point, the Tech Rep had to mute the caller because he couldn't stand it. He was laughing too hard. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CD-ROM drive as a cup holder and it had snapped it off the drive.
11. A woman called the Canon help desk with a problem with her printer. The tech asked her if she was "running it under windows." The woman responded, "No, my desk is next to the door. But that is a good point. The man sitting in the cubicle next to me is under a window and his printer is working fine."
12. And last but not least:
TECH SUPPORT: "O.K. Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter "P" to bring up the Program Manager."
CUSTOMER: "I don't have a 'P'".
TECH SUPPORT: "On your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "What do you mean?"
TECH SUPPORT: " 'P' on your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "I'm not going to do that!
Panther drive's Safari 1.2.4 (v125.12) seems okay, so far. I'm not sure if that revision number changed with the update.
=-=
A Happy Thought::*
IF YOU THINK YOU'RE DUMB ABOUT COMPUTERS, READ THIS, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.
Take heart, anyone among you who believes he or she is technologically challenged, you "ain't seen nuthin" yet. This is an excerpt from a Wall Street Journal article:*
1. Compaq is considering changing the command "Press Any Key" to "Press Return Key" because of the flood of calls asking where the "Any" key is.
2. AST technical support had a caller complaining that her mouse was hard to control with the dust cover on. The cover turned out to be the plastic bag the mouse was packaged in.
3. Another Dell customer called to say he couldn't get his computer to fax anything. After 40 minutes of troubleshooting, the technician discovered the man was trying to fax a piece of paper by holding it in front of the monitor screen and hitting the "Send" key.
4. Yet another Dell customer called to complain that his keyboard no longer worked. He had cleaned it by filling up his bathtub with soap and water and soaking the keyboard for a day, then removing all the keys and washing them individually.
5. A Dell technician received a call from a customer who was enraged because his computer had told him he was "Bad and an invalid." The tech explained that the computer's "bad command" and "invalid" responses shouldn't be taken personally.
6. A confused caller to IBM was having trouble printing documents. He told the technician that the computer had said it "couldn't find printer." The user had also tried turning the computer screen to face the printer-but that his computer still couldn't "see" the printer.
7. An exasperated caller to Dell Computer Tech Support couldn't get her new Dell Computer to turn on. After ensuring the computer was plugged in, the technician asked her what happened when she pushed the power button. Her response, "I pushed and pushed on this foot pedal and nothing happened." The "foot pedal" turned out to be the computer's mouse...
8. Another customer called Compaq tech support to say her brand new computer wouldn't work. She said she unpacked the unit, plugged it in and sat there for 20 minutes waiting for something to happen. When asked what happened when she pressed the power switch, she asked, "What power switch?"
9. Another IBM customer had trouble installing software and rang for support. "I put in the first disk, and that was OK. It said to put in the second disk, and had some problems with the disk. When it said to put in the third disk, I couldn't even fit it in..." The user hadn't realized that "Insert Disk 2" implied removing Disk 1 first.
10. A story from a Novell NetWare SysOp:
CALLER: "Hello, is this Tech Support?"
TECH: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?"
CALLER: "The cup holder on my PC is broken -and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?"
TECH: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?"
CALLER: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer."
TECH: "Please excuse me. If I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?"
CALLER: "It came with my computer. I don't know anything about a promotional. It just has '4X' on it."
At this point, the Tech Rep had to mute the caller because he couldn't stand it. He was laughing too hard. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CD-ROM drive as a cup holder and it had snapped it off the drive.
11. A woman called the Canon help desk with a problem with her printer. The tech asked her if she was "running it under windows." The woman responded, "No, my desk is next to the door. But that is a good point. The man sitting in the cubicle next to me is under a window and his printer is working fine."
12. And last but not least:
TECH SUPPORT: "O.K. Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter "P" to bring up the Program Manager."
CUSTOMER: "I don't have a 'P'".
TECH SUPPORT: "On your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "What do you mean?"
TECH SUPPORT: " 'P' on your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "I'm not going to do that!
tech4all said:
.... because it's for OS 10.2.8 or 10.3.7, only.
Review System Requirements:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/securityupdate2005001macosx1028client.html
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/securityupdate2005001macosx1028server.html
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/securityupdate2005001macosx1037client.html
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/securityupdate2005001macosx1037server.html
JJTiger1 said:Installed on a 2002 QuickSilver G4-733: Separate OS 10.2.8 and 10.3.7 hard drives.
Panther drive's Safari 1.2.4 (v125.12) seems okay, so far. I'm not sure if that revision number changed with the update.
=-=
A Happy Thought::*
IF YOU THINK YOU'RE DUMB ABOUT COMPUTERS, READ THIS, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER.
Take heart, anyone among you who believes he or she is technologically challenged, you "ain't seen nuthin" yet. This is an excerpt from a Wall Street Journal article:*
1. Compaq is considering changing the command "Press Any Key" to "Press Return Key" because of the flood of calls asking where the "Any" key is.
2. AST technical support had a caller complaining that her mouse was hard to control with the dust cover on. The cover turned out to be the plastic bag the mouse was packaged in.
3. Another Dell customer called to say he couldn't get his computer to fax anything. After 40 minutes of troubleshooting, the technician discovered the man was trying to fax a piece of paper by holding it in front of the monitor screen and hitting the "Send" key.
4. Yet another Dell customer called to complain that his keyboard no longer worked. He had cleaned it by filling up his bathtub with soap and water and soaking the keyboard for a day, then removing all the keys and washing them individually.
5. A Dell technician received a call from a customer who was enraged because his computer had told him he was "Bad and an invalid." The tech explained that the computer's "bad command" and "invalid" responses shouldn't be taken personally.
6. A confused caller to IBM was having trouble printing documents. He told the technician that the computer had said it "couldn't find printer." The user had also tried turning the computer screen to face the printer-but that his computer still couldn't "see" the printer.
7. An exasperated caller to Dell Computer Tech Support couldn't get her new Dell Computer to turn on. After ensuring the computer was plugged in, the technician asked her what happened when she pushed the power button. Her response, "I pushed and pushed on this foot pedal and nothing happened." The "foot pedal" turned out to be the computer's mouse...
8. Another customer called Compaq tech support to say her brand new computer wouldn't work. She said she unpacked the unit, plugged it in and sat there for 20 minutes waiting for something to happen. When asked what happened when she pressed the power switch, she asked, "What power switch?"
9. Another IBM customer had trouble installing software and rang for support. "I put in the first disk, and that was OK. It said to put in the second disk, and had some problems with the disk. When it said to put in the third disk, I couldn't even fit it in..." The user hadn't realized that "Insert Disk 2" implied removing Disk 1 first.
10. A story from a Novell NetWare SysOp:
CALLER: "Hello, is this Tech Support?"
TECH: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?"
CALLER: "The cup holder on my PC is broken -and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?"
TECH: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?"
CALLER: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer."
TECH: "Please excuse me. If I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?"
CALLER: "It came with my computer. I don't know anything about a promotional. It just has '4X' on it."
At this point, the Tech Rep had to mute the caller because he couldn't stand it. He was laughing too hard. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CD-ROM drive as a cup holder and it had snapped it off the drive.
11. A woman called the Canon help desk with a problem with her printer. The tech asked her if she was "running it under windows." The woman responded, "No, my desk is next to the door. But that is a good point. The man sitting in the cubicle next to me is under a window and his printer is working fine."
12. And last but not least:
TECH SUPPORT: "O.K. Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter "P" to bring up the Program Manager."
CUSTOMER: "I don't have a 'P'".
TECH SUPPORT: "On your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "What do you mean?"
TECH SUPPORT: " 'P' on your keyboard, Bob."
CUSTOMER: "I'm not going to do that!
omg i got a kick out of this. I posted this in an IRC chat and we all just cracked up with these.