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What happens when an alternative app store goes belly up, and a developer moves an app to another app store? Will all the data from the app downloaded from store A retain all user data when it moves to store B? Honest question and an entirely possible scenario with several competing app stores.
 
Buy buying the proper phone for the app store you want...Hence choice. . Look, if you want the options available on a BMW don't buy a Mercedes. You make decisions up front. and live with your choice...EU is destroying tech.
The issue is that too many choices are bound up in just two options (iOS or Android), for no good reason. Your point would be valid if sideloading was the only difference between iOS and Android. But it’s just
one difference among many. Your argument is like saying “Oh, you prefer chocolate over vanilla? Then get a milkshake instead of ice cream.” Well, people would like chocolate ice cream, thank you very much.
 
Buy buying the proper phone for the app store you want...Hence choice. . Look, if you want the options available on a BMW don't buy a Mercedes. You make decisions up front. and live with your choice...EU is destroying tech.
It's not practical to mix and match hardware features of a car, but the limitation on what software you can use on a mobile platform is arbitrary. Apple uses their strength in some areas to compel the use of their products or services in other areas. "All or nothing" is not much of a choice.
 
Don't most people just naturally gravitate towards Steam, even though nobody is forcing them to? Granted, there are a few exclusives elsewhere, like on GOG, but it was kinda cool to see GOG get the opportunity to rise at all, and carve out their niche.
 
I look forward to hearing about the interesting, innovative apps that were rejected from the App Store for content or legal reasons that SetApp will now offer.

I'm pretty sure "P*rnHub" will have a new meaning in the EU by the end of the year :p
 
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I have had to clean mac's with viruses.. and most now need antiviral software...A walled garden is perfect for me.

You should make better choices from where you get your apps.

And the walled garden App Store does not prevent bad apps from getting through... only some of them. There are regular stories of a compromised app being caught at some point AFTER it got approved in the ONE store. There was just such a thread within the last 10 or 20 days about one. If anyone wants to do some searching, such threads regularly appear here and on other sites. Generally, app sneaks into the App Store, exists there for a while and then gets caught doing bad things and finally removed.

Sellers will be highly motivated to make this work well for their customers. If they infect their customers devices, those customers will learn to never trust them again. That's what generally polices app safety with all Mac app sellers. This will be the same. Nobody will want to kill their new golden geese, so they'll make great efforts to be sure this goes as smooth and safe as possible.

HOWEVER, that offered, anyone believing the risk is high can keep getting their apps the "as is" way. And if a few developers pull their apps from the App Store to only sell direct, the likely plunge in revenue will soon motivate a course correction on that "shoot themselves in the foot" decision... resulting in a very Mac app-like approach of offering apps both in the Mac App Store AND direct (and in bundles, etc). But even if they opt to not also offer it in the App Store too, there are PLENTY of copycat apps for nearly anything & everything in the App Store... so that will create new opportunities for other apps to take business only willing to procure apps from the ONE store.

Wider distribution will still mean less money made for the creators of the apps from people who buy via the established way... but something is better than nothing. And if some buyers opt to buy direct or via other stores, the app creator will gain additional sales and likely make a bit more money on those transactions. And even if the latter (revenue) performs relatively poorly for transaction #1, the good & trustworthy relationship established in the use of the app may then move some app users to buy the upgrade version next year+ direct from the creator so they can make more money then.

So Apple Inc. just loses? Nope. Happy users of Apple devices in the EU will likely be motivated to buy more Apple devices. Their friends will hear glowing endorsements of Apple advantages and some of them will embrace Apple too... just like it has always worked with Macs.
 
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Omg you guys, i’m in the EU and i’m so scared right now i’m literally shaking. How do i protect myself and my loved ones from this horrible ungodly update. I feel so unsafe! Should i just buy an android? I mean i have a mac and i never had a problem with “side loading” there but i always knew it was an unsafe device so i always preferred my iphone. /s
 
Unfortunately I'm an EU resident (for now), but I have a UK Apple ID with UK credit card and UK region setting, I use a UK SIM and regularly travel to the UK, really hope I won't see these so called "features" and can keep using PWAs. Thanks EU, but I'm absolutely not interested in what you're trying to achieve. There are so many other way more important things than this nonsense.
 
You actually believe this is going to result in lower prices? 😂 Running your own storefront isn't free. In fact, it is going to be a NEW expense. New expense + business goal to PROFIT does not = lower costs. Especially because the things you need to use to do these things...aren't getting any cheaper either.

Yes, I believe competition will result in lower app prices & related fees for some apps. That's the only way to manage prices for consumers. Where there is zero competition, there is pretty much always high prices... because they can be high... because there are no other choices.

How is it on Mac? Mac App Store may have an app priced at $X. Developer might also sell the app direct for $X or less than $X since they don't have to build in Apple's 15%-30% "right off the top" cut. Developer could also bundle app into those many bundle deals that many of us use to get "10 great apps for [cheap price]". How often do we see those kind of steep app bundle discounts for iDevices?

Running a storefront does have cost. However, most developers already sell Mac versions of their apps to Mac people. So they already have sunk costs in setting up store fronts. These can just be additional apps now for sale on their established store fronts.

Those who lack storefronts already can either create one themselves or team up with only small developers in a "bundle" of shared costs to offer their apps in new shared retailer app. There are MANY options here... which is almost always better than only ONE option. Entrepreneurs able to quickly build a good app storefront in the EU should be approaching all of the tiny independents without any direct selling capabilities now... attempting to "manage" the sales of their apps for them for a relative bargain vs. the Apple cut. Since there will likely be many such entrepreneurs, they will be competing with each other to charge the smallest commission to entice as many independent apps as possible. That's classic competition at work (FOR CONSUMERS).

And of course, anyone with the capabilities to code iOS apps PROBABLY have the capabilities to code their own store front too. So I doubt that that will be some big hinderance to app developers. But for anyone who can code iDevice apps but can't code a storefront, nothing forces them to change ANYTHING- they can just keep selling their app only in the Apple store, exactly as they do now.

Believe it or not... all we have to do is stand by and see how it plays out in the E.U. Several months from now, there will be various recap stories sharing what happened in all of this. I expect some of those to illustrate how some apps cost less than they did in the App Store but developer is making more per transaction when those are purchased direct. Rather than imagine the utter destruction of the EU for whatever rationale we can conjure, this rocket is already fired and roaring. Simply stand by and see for yourself how this plays out.

If any reader is not in the EU, none of this affects you in the least, so you can keep doing everything exactly as you do it and let the EU function as a kind of guinea pig experiment in a localized test market... resulting in the total annihilation, plague & famine, et all... or... much like how being forced to USB-C would be similarly "end of the world", just about nothing terrible will manifest and we'll come to realize it was mostly a bunch of spin to try to protect the lone, "Company Store" and it's very lucrative lock on every single transaction.
 
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Buy buying the proper phone for the app store you want...Hence choice. . Look, if you want the options available on a BMW don't buy a Mercedes. You make decisions up front. and live with your choice...EU is destroying tech.
I like this analogy because it’s perfectly possible to install aftermarket parts or even ones from a different car manufacturer inside your car as long as you find a way to make them work
 
And with that...some developers might learn they were better off before this. Between running their own storefront and being required to host other developers' apps on said storefront...there's going to be some backend costs, which is going to require spending money they didn't previously need to. Running your own marketplace isn't free and neither is being required to host apps that aren't even yours.
This was my main concern. That we’d have a bunch of apps hidden behind exclusive app stores… an Amazon store, a Microsoft store, a Meta store, etc.
 
Fragmented experiences aren't consumer friendly (especially when you consider that the average consumer isn't very tech-savvy and wants things to be as simple and streamlined as possible).

A part of me is looking forward to reading complaints from consumers because what was once simple and streamlined...isn't anymore. The average consumer probably isn't going to celebrate this. They are probably going to complain that they now have to go through multiple steps that they didn't have to before, take an extra 2 seconds to pick defaults, etc. I think back to my very NOT tech-savvy neighbor asking me "why the **** do I have to go through so many **** steps to set this thing up?!" And those were steps that, literally took only a few seconds to go through. The average consumer just wants things to be easy.
By sheer gravity & habit the average consumer will likely stick to the Apple App Store.

I am not just speaking of the 3rd party App Stores but things relating to

- consumer replaceable batteries
- USB-C on all devices with batteries
- right to repair
- Android OS support lasting as long as Apple's iPhone

All of that enforced by the EU or being debated on the EU now.
 
Apple really did an amazing job making people believe that they are somehow the only one to be trusted with your data when they are just „another“ company dealing with customer data at the end of the day.

Do you never buy things online? How many times have you been falling victim to a „suspicious“ payment process? Do you not buy plane tickets online? Movie tickets? Food orders?
 
Fragmented experiences aren't consumer friendly (especially when you consider that the average consumer isn't very tech-savvy and wants things to be as simple and streamlined as possible).

A part of me is looking forward to reading complaints from consumers because what was once simple and streamlined...isn't anymore. The average consumer probably isn't going to celebrate this. They are probably going to complain that they now have to go through multiple steps that they didn't have to before, take an extra 2 seconds to pick defaults, etc. I think back to my very NOT tech-savvy neighbor asking me "why the **** do I have to go through so many **** steps to set this thing up?!" And those were steps that, literally took only a few seconds to go through. The average consumer just wants things to be easy.
Just don’t download the alternative App Store then problem solved
 
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