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Seven Years Ago Today: Steve Jobs Resigns as CEO of Apple, Tim Cook Named His Successor
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“The best products” is completely subjective. But, Apple isn’t putting a gun to anyone’s head forcing them to buy Apple products. The idea that sales, revenue and stock price don’t matter is ridiculous.
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This is what MR forum members said about the leaked iPhone that was found in a bar.
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Silly statement. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
If you mean from just a fiscal perspective, I would agree, but from an innovation and quality of product perspective, there has been many examples of companies having financial success from selling a turd of a product.
When MS launched Windows 95, it did so with one of the most successful advertising campaigns in history. The product that MS was selling was crap, and didn't work without updates, but it didn't stop people from buying it. There were reports of people that didn't even own a computer buying Windows 95. Also, all the major features that Windows 95 were advertising was already available on the Mac OS, a much more stable OS too.
I could probably list hundreds more example of similar situations. History is filled with situations that a company was financially successful, but had an inferior product.
If you are talking from an Apple shareholder perspective, then Apple if doing great, and should keep it up. From a consumer perspective, I would rather have great product from a company with good financials, than a inferior product from a company with the best financials.
Tim "Penny Pincher" Cook sacrificed Job's vision to get Apple to $1,000,000,000,000. I bet he feels great about it, too.
Yes, and that's what was needed for the first few years. Steve Job's vision of the iPhone wasn't done yet. Now it is. It, like the iPod, has reached its conclusion, but Apple doesn't have a successor yet.
It's long overdue. The Apple Watch arrived at the right time to be the successor, but it isn't it, because it wasn't envisioned by a Steve Jobs.
Hardly...
I'm not an Apple apologist, but this is revisionist history. Intel has been the biggest issue for Apple in the past couple of years with their massively delayed chips. It's clear Apple is now trying to design their own chips using ARM designs, which if fruitful thanks to TMCS fabs, the company will probably end up beating Intel hands down.
Again I think you will find that competitors are still behind. Have Apple made all the right choices design-wise? Definitely not, but they have definitely pushed the industry as a whole around smaller and lighter machines which also use less power.
Have you used after sales from another company like HP or Lenovo? If you have, then I think you can't ignore how good Apple is in this sense. I run a few machines due to work, and Apple still beats the rest of them hands down.
(I have both a MS Surface and an HP machine at the moment and a Lenovo only up until a few months ago. The grass is not always greener.
Definitely. I only wish I purchased some.
Sad day indeed. But still Apple came out better and more human than ever (to me).
people always dump on Tim Cook, he is NO steve jobs, that is true, but this guy is incredible.
As a CEO he is very good, as an operations guy he is very good ( maybe the best right now).
He is not an innovation powerhouse (and he might need a good right hand to take that to the next level), but he is in no way risk averse, ( just the way he decided to go to Apple in the first place shows this), so he has incredible potential to lead this company to the next level, he dopes however need a person that decides to make things that go beyond the newest iphone, or a freaking pencil.
As a CEO he is very good, as an operations guy he is very good ( maybe the best right now).
He is not an innovation powerhouse (and he might need a good right hand to take that to the next level), but he is in no way risk averse, ( just the way he decided to go to Apple in the first place shows this), so he has incredible potential to lead this company to the next level, he dopes however need a person that decides to make things that go beyond the newest iphone, or a freaking pencil.
Ok let us examine what have had or not had since Tim Cook became CEO of Apple.
Soldered in Mac components (Memory, Processor, Hard Drive) I support the Right to Repair.
Poorly designed Hardware.
MacBook Pro 2014 (Anti reflective coating becoming detached from display).
Current MacBook Pro (failing Butterfly mechanism keyboard, overheating due to poor ventilation).
Lack of consideration for the consumer USB-C only making dongles and adapters an essential additional purchase.
No MagSafe.
iPhone (Error 53 which bricked the device following Home Button replacement, parts becoming detached from the Logic Board also bricking the device).
iOS updates (intentionally slowing down older devices) planned obsolescence.
Removal of Headphone port on the iPhone.
No Mac mini update for four years (actually six years as the 2014 release was abysmal)
Poorly trained staff after sales support. I had an experience of this just recently.
Would you like me to continue?
Have a nice day.
I remember that day, kind of a mixed bag of feelings. I think my thought process was that it would be good to interject some fresh blood and new thinking into Apple, but what would become of Apple's innovation w/o Jobs? Seems some of thoughts were dead on, regarding innovation.
Evidence indeed that the pressure of running a company like Apple ages you and then some.
Look at the 'before' and 'after' pictures of Obama for further evidence of the tolls of a very high pressure & demanding job.
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6-7 out of those 8 are great for shareholders but do just about nothing for individual consumers. Maybe that's your point? Cook is a fantastic CEO for delighting AAPL shareholders?
On a relative (smaller Apple company) basis, Jobs had similarly, impressive growth claims on the financial side (for AAPL shareholders), while also adding multiple bullets that seem more about individual consumers (delight) than so much about how much money Apple makes under his leadership. Through my own lens, that seems to be the fundamental difference: Jobs seemed to put product & consumer experience even above maximizing profits, while Cook seems to put maximizing profits first expecting the faithful to just roll with whatever decisions Apple makes. And yes, I know all about Job's book-pricing shenanigans, so I won't try to crown him Saint or something. Maybe he was just better at casting an illusion that to him it was about making incredible products and growing corporate profit numbers were a byproduct of that, instead of focusing so hard on the profits even at the expense of customer experience.
Even more simply: as an Apple product consumer, I can't do anything with "700 Billion in shareholder value" or "70M units to well over 210M." Slinging such stuff around in a forum to try to make points of how much better a corporation is than some other corporation doesn't really do a thing for me. Where's the next "wow!" product? In about 13 years, Jobs rolled out reinvigorated Macs, OS X, iPod & iTunes, iPhone & app store,
TV, iPad and a variety of interesting accessories... iPod + iPhone + iPad in about 8 years. In 7 years, Cook's Apple has rolled out a Watch, the trashcan pro (to be replaced after 1 iteration), the HomePod and a few interesting accessories + the consumer burden of dongles to make Apple products work as they used to work with such commonplace connections built inside them. Otherwise, it's mostly screen-sized iterations of stuff already out under Jobs.I can completely agree with you that for AAPL shareholders, Cook is doing a gangbusters, impressive job... an incredible CEO performance for stockholders. For us individual Apple consumers though, I'd sure like to see more Jobsian-like product innovations and product experience delights. Apple used to be about making wow! products. Now it seems to be about making wow! buckets of money. IMO: 7 years later, the best Apple products are still products launched by Jobs. Where is the next iPod, iPhone or iPad-like whopper? I suspect a Jobs Apple would have rolled it- whatever it is- out during this 7-year period. Will that "it" roll out before it's the 10th anniversary? Or will we still be trying to spin how much money AAPL makes as the pinnacle of innovation for the post-Jobs Apple... which, even if $1T becomes $2T or $20T still does pretty much nothing for individual Apple consumers.
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Fats Domino!
Although sadly he passed away last year -- back to the drawing board/s
Where and when was the photo taken, what was the occasion, who is the photographer? And why is such info not routinely provided? Shoddy journalism.
In fairness to Cook, I think that the iPhone is a 'once in a generation' product i.e. like the PC operating system (Windows) in the 80s and 90s.
This would be a tough act for any company to follow.
Think about what sort of tech is bubbling under at the moment:
- AVR & VR ('glasses' and HUD displays on things like, you know, a car)
- Machine learning & AI (a proper proactive 'intelligent' AI personal assistant)
- Electric Cars & Automatic Driving (as it says on the tin...)
None of these product categories are even close to being consumer ready & think how hard it's going to be to ship new truly transformative products in these categories.
I think that we have to see the personal tech landscape right now as being equivalent to the 5 years or so before the iPhone - basically a pretty boring time where we just see iterations to existing product categories.
If you think back then, apart from the iPod and digital music, it was a time when the PC platform was entrenched and Apple was busy trying to build up OS X & Microsoft were wasting all of their energy on first patching up XP and then developing the unreleased Longhorn.
Ecommerce was happening but it was no way as big as now. Probably the rise of Google was the most interesting thing going on back then (as well as the iPod).
And then in 2007, along came the iPhone which transformed so many industries.
We're going to have to wait until at least the early 2020s for another moment like that.
I suspect that Cook is going to be around until around 2025 (at least) as CEO. So let's judge him by how he manages to take Apple beyond the iPhone with some of the product categories that I've mentioned above.
Let's hope that he doesn't turn Apple into Microsoft, trying to defend its key cash cow until it ends up shooting itself in the foot (I don't think that this is going to happen).
I was working for Apple at this time, I remembered being on my shift at my store the day he passed. I went to my car and cried that day and I can't even fully express why to this day.
The cult of Apple was already leaving me at that point but the impact of Steve and what he did not just for the company and the tech we love but the world was so profound and overwhelming at the time of his passing that I had to just get it out.
I thought about 3 years earlier when I was in Cupertino for training and in cafe Mac he walked pass me; even though we were told in the initial training to not treat him like a rockstar, it was hard for me not to stargazed and thought to myself "Jesus ****ing Christ, its Steve Jobs...."
The cult of Apple was already leaving me at that point but the impact of Steve and what he did not just for the company and the tech we love but the world was so profound and overwhelming at the time of his passing that I had to just get it out.
I thought about 3 years earlier when I was in Cupertino for training and in cafe Mac he walked pass me; even though we were told in the initial training to not treat him like a rockstar, it was hard for me not to stargazed and thought to myself "Jesus ****ing Christ, its Steve Jobs...."
6-7 out of those 8 are great for shareholders but do just about nothing for individual consumers. Maybe that's your point? Cook is a fantastic CEO for delighting AAPL shareholders?
On a relative (smaller Apple company) basis, Jobs had similarly, impressive growth claims on the financial side (for AAPL shareholders), while also adding multiple bullets that seem more about individual consumers (delight) than so much of how much money Apple makes under his leadership. Through my own lens, that seems to be the fundamental difference: Jobs seemed to put product & consumer experience even above maximizing profits, while Cook seems to put maximizing profits first expecting the faithful to just roll with whatever decisions Apple makes. And yes, I know all about Job's book-pricing shenanigans, so I won't try to crown him Saint or something. Maybe he was just better at casting an illusion that to him it was about making incredible products and growing corporate profit numbers were a byproduct of that, instead of focusing so hard on the profits even at the expense of customer experience.
Even more simply: as an Apple product consumer, I can't do anything with "700 Billion in shareholder value" or "70M units to well over 210M." Slinging such stuff around in a forum to try to make points of how much better a corporation is than some other corporation doesn't really do a thing for me. Where's the next "wow!" product? In about 13 years, Jobs rolled out reinvigorated Macs, OS X, iPod & iTunes, iPhone & app store,
I can completely agree with you that for AAPL shareholders, Cook is doing a gangbusters, impressive job... an incredible CEO performance for stockholders. For us individual Apple consumers though, I'd sure like to see more Jobsian-like product innovations and product experience delights. Apple used too be about making wow! products. Now it seems to be about making wow! buckets of money. IMO: 7 years later, the best Apple products are still products launched by Jobs. Where is the next iPod, iPhone or iPad-like whopper? I suspect a Jobs Apple would have rolled it- whatever it is- out during this 7-year period. Will that "it" roll out before it's the 10th anniversary? Or will we still be trying to spin how much money AAPL makes as the pinnacle of innovation for the post-Jobs Apple... which, even if $1T becomes $2T or $20T still does pretty much nothing for individual Apple consumers.
Totally! Nailed it, dude.
[As an side, i can tell Baymowe335's posts by content from afar -- he only gets aroused by AAPL performance, and of course that is his right -- but it does "pretty much nothing for the individual Apple consumers".]