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The only way to guage the seriousness of this issue would be to provide an actual number of those affected. Whoever wrote this article should find another career cause journalism ain’t it.
 
No one should have their phones at full volume anyway. With all the messages and notifications we get these days, phone sounds are starting to become noise pollution. Put your phone on vibration and be happy! - but by all means, get it replaced if it's interfering with your phone calls :)
I have the sound off with most of my notifications because if I didn't, my iPhone would become really annoying and not only to me.
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The only way to guage the seriousness of this issue would be to provide an actual number of those affected. Whoever wrote this article should find another career cause journalism ain’t it.
I don't think Apple would ever release that number.;)
 
Just because you consider it average, surprisingly not everyone will share your opinion, I certainly don’t.

There will always and forever be a percentage of any product that ship to end users with faults. It’s simply not possible to manufacture with a 0% failure rate, especially with complex devices.

As for charging 1000 when it costs 300-400 to make, are you actually serious?
Perhaps it does cost around 400 bucks to manufacture. But the key word there is manufacture.

You’re conveniently forgetting the (at least) four years of development time and the costs involved there. Not to mention the vast piles of cash they spent buying up companies who’s tech was then evolved for the phone.

Oh and there’s the wages paid to a massive workforce involved in designing, developing and making the device. The costs of shipping millions of devices around the world. The costs involved with replacing the small percentage of faulty devices. Advertising costs and so on and so on. There’s a hell of a lot more to putting a product out than just how much it costs to manufacture. And after all of that’s taken care of they like to make some profit, not being a charity, so that they can continue to develop these devices and the software you get for free.

At the end of the day no-one is forcing you to buy an X, so you probably haven’t. There’s a huge volume of alternative devices out there to cater to everyone.
Personally, having owned and used the X for almost two weeks now I’m delighted with it. It’s easily one of the best phones Apple have put out so far. But that’s just my opinion, like yours I don’t expect everyone to agree with it.

I think it went over your head...

“The gross margin generated by the iPhone 8 is 59 percent with iPhone 8 Plus selling at $799 and iPhone 8 selling at $699. In Australia, where the iPhone X is sold at $1579, the margin would be about 70 percent using the same cost estimate from Techinsights.” Simple google search.

I like Apple products but you’re giving silly excuses for Apple that it’s okay to charge a phone £1000. My iPad Pro 12.9 2nd gen costs less than that £919. Now, please don’t say they’re different categories, as there are no justification. Samsung Note 8 goes through the same as you mentioned above (minus the iPhone X Face ID as they reported a year 2 ahead of the competition) yet it costs less than it. Your argument is weak. If this continues Apple will charge us for future iPhones £1.5 or even £2k, and you don’t even see it
 
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You mean like a 1200$ for a phone? Wich its primary function is .... well hearing and talking to people?

How can it not be an issue?? I mean I am sure people would scream scandal if it was Samsung having this "non issue".

Well let the "beta testing" continue :D.

No a phone speaker during a call shouldn't ever crackle

I tried it on all my idevices and could hear hissing at max volume and poor quality playback that could be considered breaking up/crackling, thought from more reports this could be something else and a fault . I don't have it . For me poor audio quality at max volume is the norm from tiny speakers
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I think it went over your head just like the rest of the sheeps...

“The gross margin generated by the iPhone 8 is 59 percent with iPhone 8 Plus selling at $799 and iPhone 8 selling at $699. In Australia, where the iPhone X is sold at $1579, the margin would be about 70 percent using the same cost estimate from Techinsights.” Simple google search.

I like Apple products but you’re giving silly excuses for Apple that it’s okay to charge a phone £1000. My iPad Pro 12.9 2nd gen costs less than that £919. Now, please don’t say they’re different categories, as there are no justification. Samsung Note 8 goes through the same as you mentioned above (minus the iPhone X Face ID as they reported a year 2 ahead of the competition) yet it costs less than it. Your argument is weak. If this continues Apple will charge us for future iPhones £1.5 or even £2k, and you don’t even see it because you’re intellectually challenged.

Please go cry me a river.

I agree , the pricing is becoming stupid, without gains is quality . In some cases backwards steps like intel modems. It's not about quality / value with Cook, it's just profit
 
I tried it on all my idevices and could hear hissing at max volume and poor quality playback that could be considered breaking up/crackling, thought from more reports this could be something else and a fault . I don't have it . For me poor audio quality at max volume is the norm from tiny speakers
Just because idevices do that does not make it "normal". Again, when you spend mega money (because 1200$ is MEGA MONEY) you expect to have better internals....unless you are paying that ammount just for a logo that is.

My 320$ phone might lacks lots of the X cool tech but at least I can hear loud and clear even at max volume.
 
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Just because idevices do that does not make it "normal". Again, when you spend mega money (because 1200$ is MEGA MONEY) you expect to have better internals....unless you are paying that ammount just for a logo that is.

My 320$ phone might lacks lots of the X cool tech but at least I can hear loud and clear even at max volume.

I tested video and music playback. I agree that a phone speaker at max volume should not have issue during a call.

Im very unimpressed with my phones £1150 price

If you think I'm a blind apple fan, barking up the wrong tree ;)
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I don’t see how age or gender is relevant to this pointless debate? What thoughts? I have already posted it, and I will not repost it just summary.

Summary: overpriced, silly notch, yet people defend it. Frankly, I am amazed by what I am reading!

I am not sure why demeanour is in question? Using your age and gender is questionable.

She is as quilty of gender as you are of bringing animals into the discussion..... You are creating an issue that is not there.
 
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I tested video and music playback. I agree that a phone speaker at max volume should not have issue during a call.

Im very unimpressed with my phones £1150 price

If you think I'm a blind apple fan, barking up the wrong tree ;)
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She is as quilty of gender as you are of bringing animals into the discussion..... You are creating an issue that is not there.

Unfortunately, I am not creating an issue. I don’t care about this but what I care is if someone can have an intellectual debate with me. When someone’s mentions something like this, they have a reason for it and waiting for her response.
 
Unfortunately, I am not creating an issue. I don’t care about this but what I care is if someone can have an intellectual debate with me. When someone’s mentions something like this, they have a reason for it and waiting for her response.

Cool. Only reason i jumped in, cause @GrumpyMom is no apple "sheep" , far from it. That's all.
 
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Mine's still on order. I hope it's one of the millions like yours, and not one of the dozens with this problem.
A previous poster had the issue and their replacement also had the issue. This tends to indicate the problem is not with a few dozen out of millions. Just based on the balance of probabilities.
 
A replacement having the same fault could just be a bad batch, which ended up shipping to a similar location/stockpile etc...

Or could indeed be a bad sign for Apple.
 
I think it went over your head just like the rest of the sheeps...

“The gross margin generated by the iPhone 8 is 59 percent with iPhone 8 Plus selling at $799 and iPhone 8 selling at $699. In Australia, where the iPhone X is sold at $1579, the margin would be about 70 percent using the same cost estimate from Techinsights.” Simple google search.

You‘d love to believe everything on the Internet, pay less than the price Apple asks for their hardware and yet expect them to stay in business. Good engineers, designers, marketing guys etc. cost good money. You wouldn‘t want to earn less money yourself in your profession just because your customers „don‘t feel that the price is right“ or „googled the price of components“. Business always goes both ways, and Android makers who cut too many corners just to hit certain price points are going out of business left and right. It‘s that simple.
 
Sadly part of the norm of nearly all smartphones, is the fact that there will be a few that make it out of the factory with issues. There are quite a few threads on this site form the past that will confirm that production issues are nothing new for iPhone releases.

Nice to see that Apple is taking care of people with these issues.

I was told by a genius that it was "within factory tolerance" but I could pay for a repair out of my own pocket :\
 
These types of statements have no credibility. I have owned plenty a first GEN devices that have never had problems. And just because you read about some issues on a tech forum, doesn't mean that everybody in the world is experiencing those issues. It's just reported here, because that's where others congregate to discuss what other issues they have located with their phones too. Technology is not perfect regardless if it's a first GEN device.

Honestly... all I can see in this kind of post are people trying to convince themselves that they made a good choice not buying the ipX, or that they do not need it just because they can’t afford it.
[doublepost=1510566928][/doublepost]I’ve personally seen 1k$ speakers making noises when pumped to the limit...
 
Honestly... all I can see in this kind of post are people trying to convince themselves that they made a good choice not buying the ipX, or that they do not need it just because they can’t afford it.
[doublepost=1510566928][/doublepost]I’ve personally seen 1k$ speakers making noises when pumped to the limit...
Yes, but good design would ensure that speakers couldn't be increased to that level preventing damage and poor sounding output.
 
Some percentage of new first-gen early adopter devices will always have some issues because not every problem might appear in testing or because some issues only appear in mass manufacturing, leading to slight method tweaks all the time along the lifetime of a product, or some issues appear that rare that the chance to appear in the pre-release test units was so low the issue didn't appear beforehand. Apple is no different and hasn't been in the past.

Don't quite know why this would be a software issue; my guessing is either damaged/not 100% quality speakers, speakers not fixed/glued to the device 100% so it can vibrate a little, speaker grille not fixed 100% or not up to 100% designed quality so parts of or on it vibrate. Speakers need to sit as tight as possible and no parts should move that are designed to not move for perfect quality. And on a $1500 phone (in Germany) I expect it to be perfect, but that's what consumer protection laws and return/repair possibilities are for.

Software could only suppress symptoms by making the speakers less loud so they will move less and cause less unwanted vibration or by possibly filtering out certain frequencies that reverb in the case or on which frequency other parts of the device vibrate that make these noises. Like there probably is a tone you make in the shower that gets really loud because it is exactly on the frequency with which your surrounding resonates. But these would be cosmetic patches to a manufacturing issue.
 
All the phones I have tested sound like this. Apple Stratford London (All display models),
Covent Garden store all display models. Both mine and my wife's phones sound exactly the same.

 
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