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Several macOS Monterey Features Unavailable on Intel-Based Macs

One thing to me that’s crazy is that Apple skipped over the entire 2014 MacBook line. I can’t recall a time they skipped an entire year of MacBooks for an OS upgrade after OSX.

Apple is moving to the M series but I think one of the big rubs here is that they are still selling brand new Intel machines and have Intel machines in the pipeline that won’t support features in the upcoming OS release. I can’t recall that ever happening? Apple can program a lot of these features to use Intel if they wanted to.
 
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dohspc said:
One thing to me that’s crazy is that Apple skipped over the entire 2014 MacBook line. I can’t recall a time they skipped an entire year of MacBooks for an OS upgrade after OSX.

Apple is moving to the M series but I think one of the big rubs here is that they are still selling brand new Intel machines and have Intel machines in the pipeline that won’t support features in the upcoming OS release. I can’t recall that ever happening? Apple can program a lot of these features to use Intel if they wanted to.
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Who says they have intel machines in the pipeline? The only thing rumored is a new BTO processor option on the Mac Pro.
 
Maybe for the Mac Pro?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1402316211619123202

Apple said the following in June 2020 when the M1 was announced “Apple will continue to support and release new versions of macOS for Intel-based Macs for years to come, and has exciting new Intel-based Macs in development.”

Pethaps the exciting new Intel was the 27” iMac in August 2020 (don’t buy that one), that has been the only Intel Mac since the M1 announcement to my knowledge. Maybe a future Mac Pro? Who knows I’m just going off what was said and read online. I’m sure things have changed a lot from then and Intel is out especially after their attack ads.
 
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dohspc said:
Maybe for the Mac Pro?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1402316211619123202

Apple said the following in June 2020 when the M1 was announced “Apple will continue to support and release new versions of macOS for Intel-based Macs for years to come, and has exciting new Intel-based Macs in development.”

Pethaps the exciting new Intel was the 27” iMac in August 2020 (don’t buy that one), that has been the only Intel Mac since the M1 announcement to my knowledge. Maybe a future Mac Pro? Who knows I’m just going off what was said and read online. I’m sure things have changed a lot from then and Intel is out especially after their attack ads.
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Not too long ago, someone looked at the beta, saw AMD and assumed that meant AMD processors in new Macs.
 
dohspc said:
One thing to me that’s crazy is that Apple skipped over the entire 2014 MacBook line. I can’t recall a time they skipped an entire year of MacBooks for an OS upgrade after OSX.
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Maybe its because they want to get rid of Nvidias…
 
jonnysods said:
Wow so if the Mac Pro is refreshed with the newer Intel processors, you miss out on features. That’s very interesting.
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My interactions with people who have purchased either a Mac Pro or iMac Pro are limited, but their devices were pretty much used almost for a singular purpose. Not saying they only used it for their business (one, graphics/marketing, the other, music) but their setup/setting was not conducive for much else. They both had laptops in addition to their desktops for non-work or light work activities.
 
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I know it's disappointing that you're not getting these features on your Intel Mac. But the software engineering team has to write and release code for TWO different architectures now.

So it's still a disappointment, but at least it's not a matter of Apple just not turning on features that are already in the code.
 
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TonyRS said:
I know it's disappointing that you're not getting these features on your Intel Mac. But the software engineering team has to write and release code for TWO different architectures now.

So it's still a disappointment, but at least it's not a matter of Apple just not turning on features that are already in the code.
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Apple has made the *choice* to actively sell TWO different architectures. I think the trouble of writing code for both of them is the least that Apple could be doing.

If they were not actively selling Intel-based computers I might have a different opinion.

This should be Apple problem rather than a paying customer problem.
 
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connormw said:
An interactive 3D globe doesn't require a neural network to display. Google Earth has had a 3D interactive map for almost fifteen years.

They NEVER have to explain anything - it's their choice. However, just because that is the case doesn't mean that people can't be rightfully angry about it.

Apple is selling devices TODAY that aren't capable of the full set of features in their latest OS release. This isn't a "we finished our transition to Apple Silicon - these new features will only be available for Apple Silicon Macs." This is them continuing to sell Macs starting at $1800 USD that will immediately become obsolete as it relates to running the full software stack.

That's not to say that some of this stuff does seem to require Apple Silicon support - like live text, etc. But that doesn't mean consumers can't be angry about this.
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Let's be honest people. This is Apple Tax in action, as it has been for at least a decade. This is Apple's way. They introduce new features but limit them to new hardware. Not many Apple customer can afford to just get a new Mac, but they don't care because they'll push you to get credit or sell something you have or whatever to get it.

I decided a while back not to play that game anymore so my 2015 MacBook Pro runs Linux full time and Windows runs in a VM for when I need it.

I cloned my Mac to an external HDD using SuperDuper and it's bootable if I need it.

If this sort of behaviour from Apple infuriates you, stop buying Apple. Same goes for iPhone. I jumped to Android and it's glorious. Had been for years now.

Vote with your wallet. That's the only way Apple will learn.
 
jeremiah256 said:
My interactions with people who have purchased either a Mac Pro or iMac Pro are limited, but their devices were pretty much used almost for a singular purpose. Not saying they only used it for their business (one, graphics/marketing, the other, music) but their setup/setting was not conducive for much else. They both had laptops in addition to their desktops for non-work or light work activities.
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I know what you’re saying, but that may not be the case for everyone. Apple still sell Intel products, so I see it as their responsibility to not remove functionality from the devices they continue to sell. If they were all discontinued it would be a different story.
 
Kaptajn Haddock said:
Very stupid move! Bought my Intel Mac mini weeks before the M1 version and I am already feeling short changed. Not okay, Apple! Not okay!
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Just to be clear, you bought a two year old machine, and are upset that the operating system that will come out about 3 years after it was released will have features that it will not support? Got it. Wow.
 
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Sebosz said:
Go ahead and explain this to Mac Pro owners 🤣
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My B/F bought a 2019 Mac Pro in December of 2019. That machine paid for itself by February of 2020. Looking forward to a replacement that supports Apple Silicon and the new features it enables. Anyone who purchased a Mac Pro and expected it to be supported forever was untethered to reality.
 
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patseguin said:
It's great that my less than a year old Mac Mini will already be starting to miss out on features.
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That Mac mini was released in 2018, so when Monterey is released it will be about 3 years old. At what point do you think Apple should be able to move ahead?
 
Skoal said:
Wouldn’t be so bad if this OS came out when the M chips were more widely available in the Mac lineup. I’m not buying an 13” M1 MBP or Air just for this OS to be spiffy.
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You do understand that this has not been released yet, right? I would be shocked if, by the time this is released, they have not filled out their line up.
 
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jonnysods said:
I know what you’re saying, but that may not be the case for everyone. Apple still sell Intel products, so I see it as their responsibility to not remove functionality from the devices they continue to sell. If they were all discontinued it would be a different story.
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You might want to check the definition of 'remove'.
 
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Sue De Nimes said:
Apple has made the *choice* to actively sell TWO different architectures. I think the trouble of writing code for both of them is the least that Apple could be doing.

If they were not actively selling Intel-based computers I might have a different opinion.

This should be Apple problem rather than a paying customer problem.
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They could have stopped selling Intel-based machines immediately once the apple silicon macs were announced. Would that make everyone happy?

No?

Didn’t think so.
 
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