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Yep. It'd worry me if it was actually launched on time because that'd probably mean they've stuck Touch ID elsewhere.

This so much. I think the major shortages is them saying we aren't going to settle if I don't get mine till November or December, yea it would suck, but o well. I'd rather wait then them settle.
 
How many people are actually worried by these? Of course it will be in short supply at launch through the holidays. Happens every year.

Hey, here's an idea, do the launch in the early/mid summer, so that when fall, and the holiday season arrives, stocks are in full supply and Apple could get all those supposed 'holiday sales'. But no, they don't announce til sept/oct ... then don't have full supplies until jan/feb.... thus missing all those sales that people make as gifts.
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oh boy, can't wait for those that "get a new iPhone every time a new one is released" to be waving their's around on launch day....


can't wait...

agreed. vacant, self-centered, look-at-me consumerism at it's best.

Let's see: They bought an friggin' phone a few days/weeks before someone else. But apparently for some people these days, that somehow counts as some sort of 'accomplishment' to brag about.
 
I love post like this. While you are correct, the things mentioned are extremely important. How do you know that some if not most are able to do this and still enjoy the latest and greatest. It's funny that Macrumors has become more about financial advising then about rumors on brand new apple products. guess I didn't get the memo.
The reality is, some persons are living a keep up with the Jones mentality when the reality the missing the big picture in their lives. 1,000 is a lot of money to spend every year on an iPhone. Imagine doing that every year from 2014 to 2025. Thats 11,000 to have the latest and greatest.
 
The reality is, some persons are living a keep up with the Jones mentality when the reality the missing the big picture in their lives. 1,000 is a lot of money to spend every year on an iPhone. Imagine doing that every year from 2014 to 2025. Thats 11,000 to have the latest and greatest.

For me it is not about keeping up with the Jones, but actually my love of tech. However I am not one who rushes out anymore as to be honest, even though the new phone will be nice, there will not be a single feature on it that 'changes your life'. There will be nice to have extras.

When the original iPhone was released and subsequent models over the next few years it was exciting. But in reality I have not been excited really by any phone since the iPhone 5.

The phones have reached a plateau of what is really needed and are waiting for the next wave of tech to arrive properly, most likely in the guise of AR. Cant see this really happening until 2018 at least.

the same applies to the iPads and also the MacBooks. Which is why so many people see to be disappointed, even though it is super difficult to be 'innovative' all the time. Sometimes amazing innovation isn't required but just iterative improvements until they can deliver the really cool stuff, then it will be back to iterations of that, and so on.
 
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snip.. 1,000 is a lot of money to spend every year on an iPhone. Imagine doing that every year from 2014 to 2025. Thats 11,000 to have the latest and greatest.
All depends on how much you make.
1,000 or more yearly spent on phones may seem like a lot to you, not so much to others.
All a matter of how much disposable income you have available.
You can't apply your life situation to everyone.
 
iPhone 6 & 6+ were launched simultaneously amid rumors like this.

Those are my thoughts as well. Any iPhone models that are announced during the September keynote will launch in the same timeframe. I don't see the significance of separating the models on different time frames.
 
This literally is the Sponsored by Ming-Chi Kuo Website isn't it. I do wonder how much money KGI securities have made from this repetition of rumors as claims of inside knowledge?

Yes, but the point being that he earned this reputation by having a relatively accurate track record, compared to other analysts. Therefore if you're going to look for rumors, you'd probably want the rumor that is most likely to be accurate/real, which has been his for several years now.
 
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This literally is the Sponsored by Ming-Chi Kuo Website isn't it. I do wonder how much money KGI securities have made from this repetition of rumors as claims of inside knowledge?

Does anyone else actually at KGI? Or is it a one person business? Sure many details leaked seem legit and on the money but there have been notable failings too over the years.

Of course, Apple might be "leaking" these rumours too... nothing builds up demand like feeding the beast that is causing the slow down currently. Hype the crap out of what is coming and ensure sales. And early leaks can stop people jumping ship. Worked well for Microsoft for a long time...
 
I pre-ordered once and waited 3 months... Never again. Last time I walked in to a Best Buy 2 weeks after launch and found what I wanted.

So, this year you can wait 3 months to get it at Best Buy. Good luck!! :)..........the world may never know..........:apple:
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I would argue that it is innovation that is driving this (supposed) delay in production. So I'm not sure why you would cite a lack of innovation. Also, I wouldn't call FaceTime a "zero presence" in video calling...

I would call these details more like refinements. I'm afraid Ive has convinced Cook that incremental refinements equal innovation. Of course when they go home at night they all know they are full of BS.
 
All depends on how much you make.
1,000 or more yearly spent on phones may seem like a lot to you, not so much to others.
All a matter of how much disposable income you have available.
You can't apply your life situation to everyone.
It's not even about how much money you make. It's about what value you place the item in question. Someone may balk at paying a $1000 annually on phones but wouldn't bat an eye about paying $1300 annually on cups of coffee. Someone could happily pay for a $2K television but try to bargain with a cashier about $40 pair of sandals. Me? I'd have no issue paying $3K-4K for a gaming rig, but no way in hell I'd pay $1K for a phone. Nothing to do with disposable income. Just value judgments.
 
This could be a pivotal year for Apple. They seem to be struggling to innovate, while also maintaining supply, for their flagship device, the iPhone. Meanwhile, Amazon is further pushing into a space that Apple has zero presence in, and cutting into video calling. This could be a big deal...


Pivotal year? Sure, they are likely to become first trillion dollar company despite continual stories of "doom." All the signs are there--they've only sold 120 million of the "boring" iPhones in the last two quarters. Cash in bank just hit a quarter of a trillion dollars, rumor is that banks are running out of room to store it, and Apple is experiencing delays in getting it counted as well. Doom.
 
Tell us whether or not the device will have the fingerprint sensor in the display. That's pretty much all we care about at this point, we know it's going to be limited and hard to get, it always is. These reports are literally reiterating the same things over and over lol.

Seriously..

Touch ID on the front, or GTFO.
 
Same story every year. Reporting stories of apple having product shortages is like shooting fish in a barrel. They've never had enough stock during any of their product launches.
 
It's not even about how much money you make. It's about what value you place the item in question. Someone may balk at paying a $1000 annually on phones but wouldn't bat an eye about paying $1300 annually on cups of coffee. Someone could happily pay for a $2K television but try to bargain with a cashier about $40 pair of sandals. Me? I'd have no issue paying $3K-4K for a gaming rig, but no way in hell I'd pay $1K for a phone. Nothing to do with disposable income. Just value judgments.
Nah.
Without cash value judgements become irrelevant.
You can value something all you want.
All those examples you list, you need available cash to even consider a "value judgment".
Need income to make a value judgement a reality.
 
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Nah.
Without cash value judgements become irrelevant.
You can value something all you want.
All those examples you list, you need available cash to even consider a "value judgment".
Need the cash to make a value judgement a reality.
You're confusing what I mean by value with an ability to afford. They are not the same thing. If you and I both make $1M a year we can obviously afford to buy a $1000 phone every year. Let's say you find value in having the latest and greatest phone so you buy the top shelf model annually. I, on the other hand, find very little value in buying a new phone every year. So I don't. That has every thing to do with what I value and nothing to do with cash. Besides, with the multiple lease options available from Apple and the carriers getting a new phone every year is not a serious financial outlay. No one actually has to pay $1000 upfront for a $1000 phone. When the guy on fries at McDonald's is kicking an iPhone and an AW, it's pretty hard to argue affordability. Basically anyone who wants an iPhone can get one.
 
You're confusing what I mean by value with an ability to afford. They are not the same thing.
No confusion.
You really went of tangent here.
You're on a different topic altogether.
The initial response was to this line: "1,000 is a lot of money to spend every year on an iPhone."
If you and I both make $1M a year we can obviously afford to buy a $1000 phone every year. ...snip
You just proved my point in my initial response to you.
Income first, value judgements second.
However let's say the example is $20,000 a year. A new $1000 phone every year might be a little out of reach.
You may need more income.
If you don't have the funds in the first place, what difference does your value make then?
I, on the other hand, find very little value in buying a new phone every year. So I don't.
That is a perceived value that you have set and is irrelevant to original comment.
That has every thing to do with what I value and nothing to do with cash.
Putting the horse before the cart.
You still need income and sufficient income to consider your value judgement.
Besides, with the multiple lease options available from Apple and the carriers getting a new phone every year is not a serious financial outlay. No one actually has to pay $1000 upfront for a $1000 phone.
True but irrelevant to initial comment you quoted.
When the guy on fries at McDonald's is kicking an iPhone and an AW, it's pretty hard to argue affordability.
That's a big assumption. I gather you inquired as to how they got that phone or AW.
Basically anyone who wants an iPhone can get one.
When you can prove this point with verifiable data, it would go a long way to validating your claim.

All of the above has nothing to do with my original response.
There is only one item on the table I was addressing: is $1000 a lot of money to spend every year on a phone.
To some, $1000 is just chump change, they have enough income not to think about it.
 
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