Shipping Windows on iPad Accessories Slipping as Pre-Orders Mount

[kernkraft]

None of this nonsense really matters ... except to a few bloggers and analysts who need something to report.

And perhaps for those, who use a digital camera and wonder, why an expensive tablet is missing a port that would have cost a few dollars to put in.

If you want to take proper use of this thing, you'll have to carry a bunch of adaptors and accessories. They kind of defeat the whole purpose of having a light and slim tablet.

By the way, has anybody tried the Always Innovating Touch Book? How is it?

 

[robmax72]

I don't plan on getting an iPad until May anyway, that way some kinks can be worked out. But that being said, i'm excited to see it and what apps are going to be made for it. I already have some ideas for apps, and will see the pricing on getting them made.

What will be really interesting to me, will be in the realm of the jail broken version. I know several people that have jail broken their 3G phones, to get the multi-app functionality of the 3Gs, so i'm imagining that they will do something similar for the iPad, since it doesn't have it.

 

[LoganT]

I keep on reading this like they are shipping Windows 7 on iPad.

 

[robmax72]

If including them meant raising the price and size of the unit for everyone, even those who don't want or need such functionality, then adding them as a separate accessory means they are only passing along the cost to those who want it. Having said that, it seems odd that there are two separate components to the camera kit... why not have one part that includes both USB and SD card input? What would be interesting is if someone--Apple or 3rd party--creates an add-on that includes a full range of traditional laptop inputs and outputs. If such a thing is even possible.

As long as I'm dreaming, somebody make a pressure sensitive stylus and drawing app for this as well. Oh, and let me attach it to my desktop to use it like a drawing pad, haha. Oh dear... I've gone off topic.

I think that is a great idea, and really they would just have to have a stylus that provided the pressure sensitivity. I think that it would be absolutely phenomenal. I wouldn't use it, but i know my son would, and i'd buy him one for that purpose alone. Being able to do a drawing, and then hookup to his mac would be great.

 

[diabolic]

If you want to take proper use of this thing, you'll have to carry a bunch of adaptors and accessories.

I always thought it seemed a bit funny to carry a laptop with me only to end up placing it on a desk and connecting several peripherals to it. Maybe Apple does too.

Perhaps those who need to connect a lot of external add-ons might not necessarily be the target market.

 

[robmax72]

Apple, you used to be cool. Selling a USB adapter instead of building one into the iPad? This is probably the biggest d**k move I've seen from them.

Granted I don't know for sure, but why would you need a USB for it anyway? As long as your able to connect to iPhoto and get your pics, or use an app like air sharing to get files onto it. I personally am looking forward to a device that doesn't keep me tethered to my macbook, or macpro. And i'm looking forward to not being tethered to a plug-in. The only point in which i can see a USB port being really useful, is when your out taking pics, and your camera doesn't hold that many. Then being able to download them to the ipad would be neat. But in reality, the iPad wouldn't be anything more than a really over sized SD card.

So i'll take it as it comes in may, and then see what happens. I love my iphone, and my macs, and i'm looking forward to the iPad now as well.

 

[Veinticinco]

What's the big deal about these anyway - you'll be too busy fiddling and getting to know your iPad for the first few weeks before these accessories ship.

As for the camera connector, the USB version at least, isn't that already available. I bought one (and never used it) back in 2006 or 7. I'd guess there's nothing new in the realm of file transfer protocol that would stop this working.

 

[chadley_chad]

What don't we understand? Folks like you really think you're the chosen ones. Always trolling around telling people Apple is ripping them off. Let me tell you something tr*sh, I'm supporting Apple because no one in the game is doing it up like them. Period. End of. Now go back to you mom's basement and SATFU!

... as a fan of Apple products but with my head out Steve Jobs arse, its numpties like this that give Apple a reason not to include SD card slots or USB connectors on iPads (or even blue ray on iMacs) ... why should they when these Appleites blindly line Steve Jobs pockets with gold for nice stuff yes, but clearly specification wise inferior!

Wake up you nonces, get in the basement, smell the coffee, Apple stuff is great yeah and I'll keep buying; but Im certainly of the feeling Im being well and truly ripped off (as Im sure I will feel when we discover the UK iPad priced at £399 when they finally decide to tell us - which NB they haven't because at the £399 it WILL be, Apple don't want to create any product negativity whilst US sales are going well!)

 

[MartiNZ]

Hi, my RSS reader showed:
Shipping Windows® on iPad

The capitalized W is very scary.

I laughed at the wonderful juxtaposition also. Would be quite the feat if they pulled that off .

 

[JAT]

Will we be able to use the SD card reader to back up photos to our iPhone as well? Physically the connection looks like it will work fine.

This would be a boon for photographers who take the iPhone out on a shoot.

You want to offload photos from your 16GB SD card to your 16GB iPhone that's filled with apps, music, and video? Pros just have many cards, probably a laptop. Not to mention most pros are still geared towards CF cards.

 

[goobot]

Will we be able to use the SD card reader to back up photos to our iPhone as well? Physically the connection looks like it will work fine.

This would be a boon for photographers who take the iPhone out on a shoot.

confirmed a no

 

[Padriac]

For those photographers dreaming off off-loading digital photos to iPads in the field I remind you that ignoring that it is unlikly to support raw files or tethered shooting the biggest ipad is only 64GB. For me that means completely empty it'll hold two CF cards worth of photos... After putting normal data (portfolio photos, music, applications) on it that'll mean one 32GB Flash card tops could be off-loaded before it's full. In my case that's one day's shooting... Not much use if I'm away on a weekend shoot. Finally unless there is a way to hook an external hard drive up to backup those photos in the field it's further worthless...

It IS confirmed that the camera connector/iPad will support RAW files in some way: it says so on the camera connector page itself that it supports RAW. And that means there's nothing to stop somebody who isn't Apple from writing software to suck in RAW files and do things with them, should Apple's method be lacking in some way.

Also: shooting 32GB a day is excessive even for some pro shoots, let alone amateur/consumer use (I can already assume you have a 5DMII or D3x from this fact alone). Under heavy use I'd shoot maybe 12GB a day, which means a modestly filled 64GB iPad would still give me quite a few days of shooting before I'd need additional storage. Definitely last me a weekend, but obviously not a week-long trip where I'd probably want a full-laptop with me anyway.

And finally, many photographers want to use the iPad AS the backup, leaving the photos on the CF cards as well. Used that way, hooking a hard drive up to the iPad is somewhat pointless.

 

[JAT]

i thought this thread was about putting windows on the ipad...im out.

I would love a version of Wine to allow a Windows app to run. (maybe Win Mobile app) That might make me buy one even without 128GB or 3rd party multitasking.

But it's even less likely.

 

[Peter Harrison]

... as a fan of Apple products but with my head out Steve Jobs arse, its numpties like this that give Apple a reason not to include SD card slots or USB connectors on iPads (or even blue ray on iMacs) ... why should they when these Appleites blindly line Steve Jobs pockets with gold for nice stuff yes, but clearly specification wise inferior!

Wake up you nonces, get in the basement, smell the coffee, Apple stuff is great yeah and I'll keep buying; but Im certainly of the feeling Im being well and truly ripped off (as Im sure I will feel when we discover the UK iPad priced at £399 when they finally decide to tell us - which NB they haven't because at the £399 it WILL be, Apple don't want to create any product negativity whilst US sales are going well!)

But isn't that the expected amount over here anyway? Is anyone actually thinking it will be cheaper? If it's over £400 then that will raise concerns, but I think everyone who knows anything about Apple has already guessed somewhere between £380 and £399.

 

[sladey]

Are you forgetting this is Apple? Everything is overpriced... I'm surprised people don't understand this yet.

"Are you forgetting this is Apple?"

Market leading products that work seamlessly together.

I'm prepared to pay a bit more for that than save a couple of bucks and get rubbish.

"I'm surprised people don't understand this yet."

 

[sladey]

I keep on reading this like they are shipping Windows 7 on iPad.

Windows on an iPad. That needs a new netspeak acronym:

NWMLUIRLWUCBF = Nearly wet myself laughing until I remembered longterm Windows use causes brain failure.

 

[deconstruct60]

Finally unless there is a way to hook an external hard drive up to backup those photos in the field it's further worthless...

Buy another CF flash card. When fill most of one backup it up to the iPad. Pop in another flash card and do the second set of pictures on the other card ( again back up to iPad ) . You have redundant copies of data (on set on cards, one set on iPad flash storage). End of day can do second backup of cards and empty them for next days shotting (and/or dump the iPad). If shooting 32GB of photos a day neigther iPad nor cards are the long term backup solution. Just need a field backup solution until can get back to the real one. The CF card itself has the data so there is no "copying" if use it as one of the backups. 32GB over USB is going to be painful. If someone comes out with a CF adapter you can start the backup on card one while continuing shooting with card 2 with only very short "down time".

If have camera with dual slots... can have backups as shoot.

If try to pump 32GB from your camera to the iPad over USB likely going to knock battery time off the camera.

Filling your card to the brim is going to limit the amount of "wear level limiting" the cards can do. Likewise with the iPad.



Unlikely Apple will ever put a slot in the iPad since would have to increase thickness to do it. Plus you loose the "no correct orientation" with something sticking out the side. That already scarific that somewhat with the 30 pin port. Unlikely they would add a second one to the device.

If SD Card Support is SO critical that it required the removal of ExpressCard Slots from MBP 13s and 15s, why does this functionality require a special adapter in the iPad???

1. The SD support on the 13s and 15s doesn't fit internally. Likewise the 13s and 15s are substantially thicker and bigger than the iPad. If you like to point the copious unused space and wide edges of the iPad where this SD slot would go that would be very helpful. Going to be tough because they don't exist.

On the alternative universe, thicker iPad ... sure they have space. Let's just stick with the one in this universe right now.

Do you have any examples of devices with edges are as thin as the iPad's that have an easy access SD slot?


2. ExpressCards pushed itself off the MBP 13s and 15s. Relatively low user utilization and applicability lead to it going away. Once gone the next item down on the checklist of things with a larger user population but no edge space to implement likely was a SD slot.

 

[killerjoon]

Any Iphone Keyboard?

Why don't they make Iphone keyboard?
or can someone make wireless keyboard to work with iphone?

 

[padgadget]

Happy I pre-ordered early

I think the accessories will be in short supply for the first few weeks after April 3. I know several of my friends who ordered their cases and docks early on March 12 to make sure they had it as soon as their iPad arrived.

 

[deconstruct60]

I keep on reading this like they are shipping Windows 7 on iPad.

iPad is clearly an adjective here. it says "iPad Accessories". So is "shipping", an adjective (at least clear once you get to the real verb, slipping. )

Amazing how folks not only don't read the articles but don't parse the whole title before wanting to hit the "submit reply" button.

Can understand why the initial couple of words read that way, but should have it the cognitive reset stage once get to 'slipping' in the sentence. Don't keep re-reading only the first couple of words.

And perhaps for those, who use a digital camera and wonder, why an expensive tablet is missing a port that would have cost a few dollars to put in.

Why doesn't the camera have a wireless card to beam the photos to the iPad?

iPad quite obviously follows a minimalist design philosophy. Very similar hand waving can be thrown at the camera as to why it doesn't have more features to make interfacing with the iPad's set of inputs more easy. From the camera side the core issue is that those additional features to contribute to the primary mission. The same justification works both ways.

The iPad is as sealed, thin, and light as they can possibly make it. Being the swiss army knife of port types is not one of the design criteria.

Other slates will likely appear and be thicker, heavier, and/or significantly less rigid but will have a SD slot. Since doing periodic transfers ( not something going to do for extended time. ) it is plausible to get away with doing this with adapter may/may not always take with you (along with camera. )

If you want to take proper use of this thing, you'll have to carry a bunch of adaptors and accessories. They kind of defeat the whole purpose of having a light and slim tablet.

Not particular if only need to unload once/twice day. Can leave it with toothpaste and toothbrush in travel back back in your room. If a pro photographer on site, most likely have other lenses , filters, batteries, alternative SD cards , etc. etc. in a bag(s) with you (nevermind whatever traveling with to recharge/protect/etc. the iPad) . That small adapter isn't going to break the bank weight wise with the rest of the gear.

Same rigid adherence would put the power charger inside the ipad too since have to have accessories. The only way to maximize on light and slim is by throwing all but the essentials out.

 

[JAT]

Why doesn't the camera have a wireless card to beam the photos to the iPad?

Some do. (don't know that it could work with the iPad) But the iPad is still lacking enough memory to make this viable for serious use.

Wondering why this conversation keeps going with non-photographers making insane comments.

 

[The Final Cut]

I thought the magic mouse the worst apple product but this clearly wins the title. Its running cell phone software, yet Its not a cellphone. It's not as powerful as a netbook, yet it's three-five times the price of one! It's supposed to be a "revolutionary product", yet its just a larger ipod touch, which denies it true portability. Its like apple said "alright lets not only create product which falls short of our competitors in every respect, lets overvalue it and market as something much better" I would rather buy an Ibook G3, at least then I would not need 45 accessories just get basic functionality of it. Apple should have hired me, I would have suggested that they just go head and sell the screen separately from the iPad. is obviously all about deceiving the public and sucking every last dollar from them.

 

[deconstruct60]

noticed[/url] yesterday that shipping windows for several of Apple's forthcoming iPad accessories have begun to slip well past the device's own April 3rd launch date.

Curious how the iPad itself still has a "deliver by April 3" at the online apple store whereas these accessories have been updated because Apple knows it can't make that date.

Perhaps they are shipping a few more than amount of the initially allocated iPads worth of accessories off to the retail stores (or logistics warehouses) so they won't be short. Or just started ramping up accessory product much later than the iPad ( too supress info leaks ). Or a bit of both.

 

[deconstruct60]

Some do.

All don't. The issue is whether to uniformly install the slot across the iPad models. The bigger design tradeoff issue is that different designs make different choices. Big picture, trying to get folks to snap out of myopic viewpoints.

But the iPad is still lacking enough memory to make this viable for serious use.

Finger on the trigger shooting, FX sized frames like there is no tomorrow i can see, but if not effectively shooting slow frame rate video (or video for that matter) there is plenty for reasonable sized projects.

However, the iPad $/GB cost isn't going to be that much better than SD or CF cards. So if too expensive for those for backups then iPad isn't going to work either.

If need large, long term back-up / archiving then a hard disk is better. However, don't particualrly don't need to carry that everywhere you go. In fact probably don't because the more travel with it the more likely it will get lost/stolen/broken/etc.

 

[blackcrayon]

I thought the magic mouse the worst apple product but this clearly wins the title. Its running cell phone software, yet Its not a cellphone. It's not as powerful as a netbook, yet it's three-five times the price of one! It's supposed to be a "revolutionary product", yet its just a larger ipod touch, which denies it true portability. Its like apple said "alright lets not only create product which falls short of our competitors in every respect, lets overvalue it and market as something much better".

No one is ever able to show these "competing products" that are superior in "every respect".
I also like the groundbreaking revelation that the iPad is physically larger than an iPod touch! You forgot to add "If i have to carry a bag, I might as well carry a laptop!"