Should I return my Samsung Galaxy S8 and wait for the new iPhone?

[I7guy]

Those videos show Touchwiz lagging ,not Android. Android does not lag on new devices. Just look at the Pixel running Android O

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/653718-youtube-videos-lagging.html

Seems like lag has nothing to do with touchwiz.

My problems have photographic evidence which no one can deny if you visited my thread.

I've posted photographic evidence also, which no one can deny as well. But is has been said (not mentioning names):
a) people don't notice problems that are there
b) people "see" issues that aren't present.

So basically,in a nutshell,both technologies have their fair share of problems except OLED has lesser problems

Except that oled issues are lesser but worse; burn-in, pink screen, color shifting, uneven wear etc.

Purely based on screen criteria,Samsung F700 came before iPhone 1

But it was the iphone 1 that caused the shift in the design of the phones as I proved above.

Not Sony,Samsung with the Note series. Sony hasn't done anything revolutionary on Android apart from waterproofing

Again, it was Sony with evidence proved above.

https://www.imore.com/history-iphone-original

Tell me a phone which matches all the criteria listed in the article. I'll wait.

There were other smartphones (and certainly cell phones) out there prior to the iphone 1; that is the point. And for a smartphone, missing copy and paste was a biggy, blackberry was doing that for years.

Hangouts has been phased out.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/06/hangouts-api-shut-down/

To make things even more confusing on android, one app is now replaced by two?

OLED screen is 50% of the functionality for me. Surprisingly,the ProMotion screen on iPad Pro would be around 45%. I never thought ProMotion was a game changing experience but wow its good. Now my iPhone 7 feels very stuttery after using iOS on the new Pro 12.9. Scrolling is smoothness taken to a whole new level

I get it. oled is 50% of the 5% increment in functionality. You are a person who is willing to pay double for a smartphone for 5% of the new features. I'm not debating your value system, if you take an objective look at this you can see why people want to buy iphones and why it seems with Huawei and OPPO (the spec king) Samsung, not apple is under attack.

Did they all use the same shell?

None of them had the exact same shell, no.

 

[ThatiPhoneKid]

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S8 because of the amazing screen and high quality front facing camera.

But other than a couple of good things it sucks!

Will the next iPhone have a comparable screen to the S8, and should I just wait until it comes out?

Yes take it back, e iPhone 8 is going to be great!

 

[lordofthereef]

Isn’t why this argument is going for so long. Vanilla android just doesn’t lag. I’m sure there’s video “proof” for every os under the sun lagging. It’s simply not the case anymore.

Regardless, but what you want. Not what you don’t. A week log back and fourth shouldn’t be necessary for that

 

[Radon87000]

https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/653718-youtube-videos-lagging.html

Seems like lag has nothing to do with touchwiz.

You are right. That lag has nothing to do,with touch wiz.Its a problem with the YouTube app. If you bothered to read the thread you posted, a guy with the 6 plus has the same issue.

I've posted photographic evidence also, which no one can deny as well. But is has been said (not mentioning names):
a) people don't notice problems that are there
b) people "see" issues that aren't present.

Can you not see the dead pixel I had on A brand new iPad Pro 12.9?

Except that oled issues are lesser but worse; burn-in, pink screen, color shifting, uneven wear etc.

Does oled need 5 exchanges every time you unbox a new product? Colorshiftint yellow tint and uneven whites are there on LCD as well. What's your point?

But it was the iphone 1 that caused the shift in the design of the phones as I proved above.

The F700 came out before iPhone 1 and had the same design.

Again, it was Sony with evidence proved above.

Wrong the Galaxy Note with a 5.5 inch screen came out in 2011. The XPERIA Z Ultra has a 6.4 inch screen,came out in 2013 and no one copied it.

There were other smartphones (and certainly cell phones) out there prior to the iphone 1; that is the point. And for a smartphone, missing copy and paste was a biggy, blackberry was doing that for years.

None of those "smartphones" have a touchscreen. That's a huge difference. So out of all the laundry list of features iPhone 1 had which the other phones didn't you single out copy and paste?

To make things even more confusing on android, one app is now replaced by two?

On the contrary its the iOS model. FaceTime and iMessage equivalents are Duo and Allo

I get it. oled is 50% of the 5% increment in functionality. You are a person who is willing to pay double for a smartphone for 5% of the new features. I'm not debating your value system, if you take an objective look at this you can see why people want to buy iphones and why it seems with Huawei and OPPO (the spec king) Samsung, not apple is under attack.

I said OLED display on its own is 50% of the functionality. If I consider wirless charging,iris scanners, Samsung Pay the total functionality is over 100%

Samsung can buy Huawei and Oppo with its cash in bank. That's how irrelevant they are

None of them had the exact same shell, no.

The 6,6s and 7 and the 7s have the exact same shell with antenna bands removed and the same subpar LCD display. That's what I call a boring upgrade

 

[I7guy]

You are right. That lag has nothing to do,with touch wiz.

There are more links similar to this. However, lag is lag. Right? Can we blame micro-stutters and all on the apps?

Can you not see the dead pixel I had on A brand new iPad Pro 12.9?

I'm not saying any manufacturing process is perfect. I had to return 0 iphones since 2010 and the screens are all cool-whitish. You seem to have your fair share at attracting the units with issues.

Does oled need 5 exchanges every time you unbox a new product? Colorshiftint yellow tint and uneven whites are there on LCD as well. What's your point?

Maybe oled needs more than 5 exchanges due to pink screen, color shifting etc.

The F700 came out before iPhone 1 and had the same design.

That is not the point, the iphone 1 radically shifted the look and feel of cell phones towards larger screens.

Wrong the Galaxy Note with a 5.5 inch screen came out in 2011. The XPERIA Z Ultra has a 6.4 inch screen,came out in 2013 and no one copied it.

The iphone 1 started larger screens and Sony took it to the next level, whether it was copied or not is not relevant.

None of those "smartphones" have a touchscreen. That's a huge difference. So out of all the laundry list of features iPhone 1 had which the other phones didn't you single out copy and paste?

But there were app stores etc. These units were considered smartphones and passes the litmus test of the definition.

On the contrary its the iOS model. FaceTime and iMessage equivalents are Duo and Allo

But not everybody on android uses those, which is the important point. IOS has additional video and messaging options, but two come standard.

I said OLED display on its own is 50% of the functionality. If I consider wirless charging,iris scanners, Samsung Pay the total functionality is over 100%

No matter how you slice it, a screen is a screen and if you want to pay double for that, nobody is questioning your value system. But you are paying double for an iris scanner essentially.

Samsung can buy Huawei and Oppo with its cash in bank. That's how irrelevant they are

Samsung mobile division, is still recovering from an 8 billion dollar loss.

The 6,6s and 7 and the 7s have the exact same shell with antenna bands removed and the same subpar LCD display. That's what I call a boring upgrade

It's quite easy to tell them apart, without even turning the units over.

So no, it's not the same shell. However, for a few "boring" updates in a row, apple has done quite well in the last few years.

 

[Hofstede]

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S8 because of the amazing screen and high quality front facing camera.

But other than a couple of good things it sucks!

Will the next iPhone have a comparable screen to the S8, and should I just wait until it comes out?

I expect the specifications of iPhone 8 will be a golden standard for other smartphone competitors. So, it's advisable to sell your S8 and wait for the revolutionary change.

 

[Radon87000]

There are more links similar to this. However, lag is lag. Right? Can we blame micro-stutters and all on the apps?

Android and iOS are equal as far as lags go. Manufacturer skins give Android a bad name. The YouTube app even on iOS lags on an iPad Pro. I bought ProTube which smooth as silk

I'm not saying any manufacturing process is perfect. I had to return 0 iphones since 2010 and the screens are all cool-whitish. You seem to have your fair share at attracting the units with issues.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...d-warm-bottom-edge-in-portrait.2051126/unread

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-ipad-pro-12-9-bad-sound-quality.2051385/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/stuck-pixels.2062860/unread

Clearly I am the only one who gets all the bad units

Maybe oled needs more than 5 exchanges due to pink screen, color shifting etc.

It just simply cant be worse than LCD. I don't understand why me and many other customers who spent 1K on Apple products have to unbox their purchase with pounding hearts. Its a real hassle to go back to the store, return the iPad thrice, and be told to wait for 2-3 days for new stock. I eventually ended up with a perfect one but why should I pay a premium price and suffer.

Not to mention I hate replacements because we literally have no idea whether its new or refurbished. After digging around,I found replacements with "N" in the model no. may be new or refurbished. There is no way to tell and my replacement has N in it. So for all I know I overpaid for a refurbished product.

OLED just cant make things worse than this

That is not the point, the iphone 1 radically shifted the look and feel of cell phones towards larger screens.

But the iPhone 1 was not the first with larger screens. That's all I am saying. Samsung did it first with the iPhone 1, then again with the Note 1. iPhone always followed Samsung's footsteps as regards screensize

The iphone 1 started larger screens and Sony took it to the next level, whether it was copied or not is not relevant.

In a time of 3.5 inch screens, Samsung dramatically invented a phone with 5.5 inch screen size. Sony went overboard 2 years later with that phablet

But there were app stores etc. These units were considered smartphones and passes the litmus test of the definition.

There is a night and day difference using an iPhone 1 and those smartphones so much so that you cant call them smartphones anymore.

But not everybody on android uses those, which is the important point. IOS has additional video and messaging options, but two come standard.

Just like FT and iMessage the option is there if people want it. Everybody on Android uses WhatsApp and Skype. That's how it is but if you ever do find a person not using both Allo and Duo to the rescue

No matter how you slice it, a screen is a screen and if you want to pay double for that, nobody is questioning your value system. But you are paying double for an iris scanner essentially.

A screen is not just a screen. So should we all abandon our iPhones and move to thr Curve since it also has a screen?

Samsung mobile division, is still recovering from an 8 billion dollar loss.

With the newly released Note 8, I am ready to bet they are gonna earn record profits to erase that loss

It's quite easy to tell them apart, without even turning the units over.

There is no way to tell a 6 Plus,6s Plus and a 7 Plus from the front if they are the same color. EVen from the back, the 6 Plus and 6s Plus are virtually indistinguishable. Heck even the 7s would still be indistinguishable had they not used glass

So no, it's not the same shell. However, for a few "boring" updates in a row, apple has done quite well in the last few years.

I get bored of using the same phone after a year so I upgrade to whatever is being offered even if its lacklustre. So obviously they did well

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Samsung did it first with the iPhone 1,

?

 

[I7guy]

Android and iOS are equal as far as lags go. Manufacturer skins give Android a bad name. The YouTube app even on iOS lags on an iPad Pro. I bought ProTube which smooth as silk

IOS lags less than Android due to the respective architectures. However, I'm glad you mention the sometimes app developers can cause lag, which people attribute to the o/s. But I'm not referring to app lag.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...d-warm-bottom-edge-in-portrait.2051126/unread

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-ipad-pro-12-9-bad-sound-quality.2051385/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/stuck-pixels.2062860/unread

Clearly I am the only one who gets all the bad units

http://televisions.reviewed.com/fea...creen-burn-in-problems-causes-image-retention

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...-more-problems-with-lg-oled-tvs/#5c0d2bb81014

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/LG-OLED-screen-burn-in-issues/td-p/2682213

It just simply cant be worse than LCD.
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OLED just cant make things worse than this

It sure can. I would be disgruntled with mis-coloration/burn-in, pink screen and uneven wear.

But the iPhone 1 was not the first with larger screens. That's all I am saying. Samsung did it first with the iPhone 1, then again with the Note 1. iPhone always followed Samsung's footsteps as regards screensize

In a time of 3.5 inch screens, Samsung dramatically invented a phone with 5.5 inch screen size. Sony went overboard 2 years later with that phablet

A larger screen is "not invented", in the same way a larger displacement petrol engine is "not invented". I'm saying the iphone 1 started it, and other manufactures copied Apples lead and made it bigger from there.

There is a night and day difference using an iPhone 1 and those smartphones so much so that you cant call them smartphones anymore.

This fits the definition of hyperbole to a "t".

Just like FT and iMessage the option is there if people want it. Everybody on Android uses WhatsApp and Skype. That's how it is but if you ever do find a person not using both Allo and Duo to the rescue

Much more dickering on android about "what is the standard" communication platform.

A screen is not just a screen. So should we all abandon our iPhones and move to thr Curve since it also has a screen?

A screen is a screen. Whether you want to abandon your iphone is up to you.

With the newly released Note 8, I am ready to bet they are gonna earn record profits to erase that loss

Maybe, and just like this year will erase Tim's "bonus deficit" from last year, when apple was down a quarter or two. But the Note 8 has a hefty price tag. I people buy that it's a portent the iphone x edition won't be available for months.

There is no way to tell a 6 Plus,6s Plus and a 7 Plus from the front if they are the same color. EVen from the back, the 6 Plus and 6s Plus are virtually indistinguishable. Heck even the 7s would still be indistinguishable had they not used glass

They are different and can be told apart easily.

I get bored of using the same phone after a year so I upgrade to whatever is being offered even if its lacklustre. So obviously they did well

Ok, I get bored also, but I upgraded because it was an exciting upgrade. The rational behind your purchase(and my purchase) is irrelevant. You bought a unit, that's all that counts.

 

[Complex757]

This topic has gotten ridiculous.

 

[tl01]

My main problem is the software.

It doesn't work well. I've had it freeze, crash, lag, and just overall been buggy.

It's definitely useable but not a joy to use.

That being said it looks incredible. I have jet black. And of course like I said, that screen is unreal. There are no words to describe how much I love the screen.

I have a 7plus for personal use and a S8 as my work phone. I actually like the S8 a lot/. Would I want it as my only phone? Probably now, but it functions better than my iPhone for what I need it to do. It isn't really laggy or buggy yet..but I have only had it about three weeks. I have been mildy surprised by it.

 

[Eggtastic]

For me, I am not too thrilled with the leaks of the 8. Not sure what apple is trying with the two awkward cut outs at the top of the LED screen (would be much better with a clean straight line). Again, no infinity display (not a deal breaker but would have really liked to see NO bezels).

The leaks also have the edges shiny and chrome like, and the back is glass. For grip, I want matte. They could easily matte or frost the glass and have a matte metal finish around the edges which would also reduce the sight of scratches over time vs chrome (especially for case people).

I of course am going to wait to see what the release brings and decide from there. If its going to be back ordered for months on end, I will go with the s8+ at a steeply discounted price and if I don't enjoy that experience I can simply return it and hope that the iPhone 8 is better over all.

The waiting game sucks, but it is what it is.