Should I return my Samsung Galaxy S8 and wait for the new iPhone?

[I7guy]

So lets summarise. Your implying that Android is laggier than iOS based on an Article written 5 years ago on an Android version 4 iterations prior. Is that correct?

And you are saying IOS is laggier than Android due to an unsubstantiated video, which according to you in the past, can be altered, that shows apple 2012 hardware against Motorola 2017 hardware?

The articles Inlink are official articles and not clickbait. That site you link reminds me of Wccftech which scours over forums and post whatever they come across as breaking news.

So now you are saying any fan website is click bate?

I don’t recall any Apple handheld with a 5.5 inch prior to 2013. Can you show some evidence?

Just look at the before and after shots of cellular phone design circa 2007 and you'll get your answer.

Again wrong. Steve Jobs invented the smartphone and tablet and iPod. The guy was a legend.

Wrong again, the smartphone existed. Iphones didn't. In the same way in cars existed prior to Henry Ford.

You clearly aren’t in touch with Android. Hangouts was phased out into Allo and Duo.

The principal still applies, however, then why is google updating hangouts on IOS?

THats where you are wrong. An OLED display is note a 5 increment in functionality. Its almost a 50% increase in functionality.

No it's not. It's a screen, a screen is a screen, a car is a car. An increment is something I couldn't, as a user do before. Like the in again, out again ir blaster.

Build quality,wireless charging, Samsung Pay( a big plus considering its adoption is higher than Apple Pay) , software support, state of the art curved edge OLED Display, support for Oculus and Galaxy VR. This is why Samsung is the best on Android and Huawei will never catch.

And you are paying double for that 5%. Except I would remove build quality, samsung pay (as it's irrelevant and duplicated). So essentially you are paying for wireless charging and fashion and a free VR gear outfit. You have just outlined why Samsung, not apple is in trouble.

It does more tasks so obviously it wont be as good at the tasks it does like iOS.

But not more useful tasks.

With Windows? You know, the relevant operating system?

It's only relevant if you use it.

 

[Maetzle]

Personally I'd keep the S8, because it's a really nice phone. Who knows when exactly the iPhone 8 will be available to buy (and in stock) and who knows what "-gate" (ugh) this one will have. You can always buy the refined iPhone 8S (or whatever it will be called) next year.

 

[Xayah]

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S8 because of the amazing screen and high quality front facing camera.

But other than a couple of good things it sucks!

Will the next iPhone have a comparable screen to the S8, and should I just wait until it comes out?

I'd keep the S8 until the iPhone is available and then compare the 2. I got the S8 now and I quite like it, there aren't many things I can complain about. The biggest issue for me is that fps position.

 

[Radon87000]

And you are saying IOS is laggier than Android due to an unsubstantiated video, which according to you in the past, can be altered, that shows apple 2012 hardware against Motorola 2017 hardware?

Never said iOS is laggier than Android.They start out equal. However the Android is not updated and remains the same as regards speed while the iOS device slows down as it gets more and more updates

So now you are saying any fan website is click bate?

Articles like these certainly are. I really dont care about these reports of burn in as I have JUST had a harrowing experience with the iPad Pro 12.9

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/help-do-i-have-a-dead-pixel.2062280/

Already exchanged 2 iPad Pros 10.5 for yellow tint. bought a new 12.9 at the Apple store,saw no yellow tint,rejoiced for a while,put on a protector and some time of use found a dead pixel at the bottom(attached pics in case you think I am trolling) for the first time in my life. I even lost $30 on the screen protector.

I am actually scared unpacking any replacement after this.

I have had enough with these LCD issues. ENOUGH

Just look at the before and after shots of cellular phone design circa 2007 and you'll get your answer.

I do not see any 5.5 inch phone

Wrong again, the smartphone existed. Iphones didn't. In the same way in cars existed prior to Henry Ford.

The iPhone is the first competent smartphone hence Jobs invented it.

The principal still applies, however, then why is google updating hangouts on IOS?

Dunno but on my Android hangouts is no longer there. Only Allo and Duo

No it's not. It's a screen, a screen is a screen, a car is a car. An increment is something I couldn't, as a user do before. Like the in again, out again ir blaster.

If I can get rid of all these LCD issues plaguing my every purchase of an Apple product yes the functionality is more than 50%,make that 100%

And you are paying double for that 5%. Except I would remove build quality, samsung pay (as it's irrelevant and duplicated). So essentially you are paying for wireless charging and fashion and a free VR gear outfit. You have just outlined why Samsung, not apple is in trouble.

Huawei's finances are in such a pathetic state it could go down under any time

 

[Complex757]

It's hard to go back to Android after using an iPhone. I had an iPhone, got the Note 7, was sort of relieved of the battery issues. So I got rid of it during the first recall and ordered an iPhone on release day. I really couldn't have seen myself using the Note 7 for a year. I had been a user of Android phones in the past, but I'm more about convenience now.

 

[I7guy]

Never said iOS is laggier than Android.They start out equal. However the Android is not updated and remains the same as regards speed while the iOS device slows down as it gets more and more updates

The contention is android will lag even with no updates, which also begs the question about security updates.

Articles like these certainly are. I really dont care about these reports of burn in as I have JUST had a harrowing experience with the iPad Pro 12.9

my two iPads and 6 iPhones have perfect screens, including my iPhone 4.

I have had enough with these LCD issues. ENOUGH

I have seen burnt in oled, I'll take yellow screen any day.

I do not see any 5.5 inch phone

Just look at the before and after circa 2007, there was a major shift in phone ergonomics.

The iPhone is the first competent smartphone hence Jobs invented it.

There were smartphones prior to the iPhone.

Dunno but on my Android hangouts is no longer there. Only Allo and Duo

I guess that is your device only.

If I can get rid of all these LCD issues plaguing my every purchase of an Apple product yes the functionality is more than 50%,make that 100%

Your an example of a consumer who would pay twice the price for 5% of the functionality. Law of diminishing returns applies to you.

Huawei's finances are in such a pathetic state it could go down under any time

That has nothing to do with anything. You as a consumer should purchase your own phones for your own reason; including financial health, margin, CEO pay, etc. whatever reason you want, but it has nothing to do with Samsung is twice the price for a 5% bump in specs.

 

[Pnr2020]

I just sent my gs8 back for 1 reason the curved display. When holding with one hand my palm keeps touching the edge of screen causing screen to scroll when you don't want it to. This was a real pain for me. The phone even had a case on which did not help. So now I will get the next iPhone probably the 7s plus if there is one.

 

[Complex757]

Incorrect. You have Apple to thank for larger screens and the iPhone 1. Like the iPod theniohone 1 was revolutionary although Apple didn't invent the cell phone.

I didn't read most of the discussion, but this couldn't be further from the truth.

Steve Jobs hated big phones, and didn't want anything above a 3.5. Apple was pretty much forced to start making bigger phones or risk losing market share. It would have been interesting to see what they would have done had he lived.

 

[I7guy]

I didn't read most of the discussion, but this couldn't be further from the truth.

Steve Jobs hated big phones, and didn't want anything above a 3.5. Apple was pretty much forced to start making bigger phones or risk losing market share. It would have been interesting to see what they would have done had he lived.

What did the phones look like before and after iPhone 1 circa 2007? Larger is relative. most had small screens with keyboards.

If the question is when did phablet size phones come about, that was not made clear; only word "larger" was used which is relative.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

I didn't read most of the discussion, but this couldn't be further from the truth.

Steve Jobs hated big phones, and didn't want anything above a 3.5. Apple was pretty much forced to start making bigger phones or risk losing market share. It would have been interesting to see what they would have done had he lived.

I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to the generally larger touchscreen available on the original iPhone compared to most of the phones available at the time.

 

[Complex757]

I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to the generally larger touchscreen available on the original iPhone compared to most of the phones available at the time.

"he disliked the new crop of bigger phones from Samsung et al. "You can't get your hand around it," he said, "no one's going to buy that." He also derided big phones as "Hummers.""

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-was-wrong-about-big-phones-2014-9

 

[Gathomblipoob]

"he disliked the new crop of bigger phones from Samsung et al. "You can't get your hand around it," he said, "no one's going to buy that." He also derided big phones as "Hummers.""

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-was-wrong-about-big-phones-2014-9

You missed the point of my post. The screen on the original iPhone was larger than most of its contemporaries. I'm talking strictly about 2007, not what came afterward.

 

[Complex757]

You missed the point of my post. The screen on the original iPhone was larger than most of its contemporaries. I'm talking strictly about 2007, not what came afterward.

No, because Steve Jobs wasn't talking screen size. He was talking about Samsung and the Note and it being a 5+ inch screen phone and it's actual size. He saw that as being too big and didn't think anyone would want a big phone you needed more than one hand to use and a stylus. He was distinctly talking about the size of the phone. Thus, him referring to them as hummers.

Did you read the article?

 

[mib1800]

Ask these retro are pointless. Fact is apple backtracked on big screen after making an embarrassing self know it all statement that there is no market for big screen.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

No, because Steve Jobs wasn't talking screen size. He was talking about Samsung and the Note and it being a 5+ inch screen phone and it's actual size. He saw that as being too big and didn't think anyone would want a big phone you needed more than one hand to use and a stylus. He was distinctly talking about the size of the phone. Thus, him referring to them as hummers.

Did you read the article?

I'm not talking about the article. I'm stating objectively about the screen size of the original iPhone being larger than most of its contemporaries, Steve Jobs notwithstanding. But if it makes you feel good to drone on about "Steve said this..." and "Steve said that...", then have a ball. I'm out.

 

[I7guy]

Ask these retro are pointless. Fact is apple backtracked on big screen after making an embarrassing self know it all statement that there is no market for big screen.

And yet they laughed all the way to the bank. Yep they were embarrassed about record breaking revenue.

 

[Complex757]

I'm not talking about the article. I'm stating objectively about the screen size of the original iPhone being larger than most of its contemporaries, Steve Jobs notwithstanding. But if it makes you feel good to drone on about "Steve said this..." and "Steve said that...", then have a ball. I'm out.

What in the world are you talking about? Are you having a discussion with voices in your head?

I didn't quote you. You quoted me. I responded to someone who said that big phones are due to the iPhone. I said no, far from it, Steve Jobs didn't even like big phones and thought they wouldn't be popular.

You are having a separate discussion that doesn't even make sense. There were other phones with larger screens back then.

 

[Radon87000]

The contention is android will lag even with no updates, which also begs the question about security updates.

Android does not lag nor does iOS on brand new devices. If there is any lag present, it will be there on both platforms. iOS 11 has atrocious lag when you turn on assistive touch and activate the button whilst opening Siri. That lag is worse than anything I have seen even on Android gingerbread

Security updates= Google Play Services API

my two iPads and 6 iPhones have perfect screens, including my iPhone 4.

Each one of my devices has been exchanged apart from the Iphone 7 and iPad Air 2. 3 exchanges of the iPhone 6. 2 exchanges of the 10.5 and 1 exchange of the 12.9. Just received my replacement 12.9 and finally got a perfect screen.The customer service was impeccable, I will give you that. I thank my stars.

I have seen burnt in oled, I'll take yellow screen any day.

I haven't exchanged a single OLED device till now. I can easily deal with yellow screens. The issue arises when a part of the screen is yellow and the other part is bluish white. Thats annoying. My Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 have developed this tint as well so its not just an Apple issue.

Just look at the before and after circa 2007, there was a major shift in phone ergonomics.

Apple prior to 2013 obstinately stood their ground by not releasing a bigger phone when Android had flooded the market with 5 inch screens. The reason the 6 sold as well as it did was because of the pent up demand from iOS customers looking at the Android competition. The same is the case with the iPhone 8. Reason for the supercycle sales being that there is a pent up demand for OLED display iPhones.

There were smartphones prior to the iPhone.

Show me an example of a touch screen smartphone with an proper OS prior to the iPhone which could do everything the iPhone 1 did.

I guess that is your device only.

Impossible as Hangouts is connected with Google Play Services which auto updates on all devices at the same time

Your an example of a consumer who would pay twice the price for 5% of the functionality. Law of diminishing returns applies to you.

Who decides this 5%? You?

That has nothing to do with anything. You as a consumer should purchase your own phones for your own reason; including financial health, margin, CEO pay, etc. whatever reason you want, but it has nothing to do with Samsung is twice the price for a 5% bump in specs.

I only buy the best. Huawei is not a flagship company and they have atrocious build quality. Why will I spend money on a Huawei phone when I have an astonishing piece of engineering along with Samsung's display prowess avaialble to me?

And yet they laughed all the way to the bank. Yep they were embarrassed about record breaking revenue.

Well duh thats obivous. They had a pent up demand for larger screens just like the current situation with OLED. Its quite a clever tactic really. We get a few rocky quarters where we get boring upgrades while demand is being suprressed,than do worthwhile upgrades,charge 1K and break records.
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I'm not talking about the article. I'm stating objectively about the screen size of the original iPhone being larger than most of its contemporaries, Steve Jobs notwithstanding. But if it makes you feel good to drone on about "Steve said this..." and "Steve said that...", then have a ball. I'm out.

The iPhone 1 was not the first at having a larger screen if screen size is the only criteria

 

[Gathomblipoob]

The iPhone 1 was not the first at having a larger screen if screen size is the only criteria

Reread my post. I said larger than most of its contemporaries.

 

[I7guy]

Android does not lag nor does iOS on brand new devices.

that is not an accurate statement. I'll dig up YouTube videos showing lag on the s8.

Each one of my devices has been exchanged apart from the Iphone 7 and iPad Air 2. 3 exchanges of the iPhone 6. 2 exchanges of the 10.5 and 1 exchange of the 12.9. Just received my replacement 12.9 and finally got a perfect screen.The customer service was impeccable, I will give you that. I thank my stars.

You can also return devices because you believe they have a problem. Similar to claiming people not noticing microstutters but claiming all phones have them.

I haven't exchanged a single OLED device till now. I can easily deal with yellow screens. The issue arises when a part of the screen is yellow and the other part is bluish white. Thats annoying. My Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 have developed this tint as well so its not just an Apple issue.

You may have not exchanged an oled device but there are those who did.

Apple prior to 2013 obstinately stood their ground by not releasing a bigger phone when Android had flooded the market with 5 inch screens. The reason the 6 sold as well as it did was because of the pent up demand from iOS customers looking at the Android competition. The same is the case with the iPhone 8. Reason for the supercycle sales being that there is a pent up demand for OLED display iPhones.

You are putting a square in a circle. Larger phones came into creation after the iPhone 1. The pent up demand was for the 6, of which Sony started down that path. Personally I'm waiting for 7s.

Show me an example of a touch screen smartphone with an proper OS prior to the iPhone which could do everything the iPhone 1 did.

What, like copy and paste?

Impossible as Hangouts is connected with Google Play Services which auto updates on all devices at the same time

No, it's not there.

Who decides this 5%? You?

I'm guessing, but it's probably an accurate guess based on android market share for non-flagships.

I only buy the best. Huawei is not a flagship company and they have atrocious build quality. Why will I spend money on a Huawei phone when I have an astonishing piece of engineering along with Samsung's display prowess avaialble to me?

Your "buying the best" indicate why Apple is doing very well. You will pay double for a phone offering 5% of the functionality. Some posters should really read your post closely so they understand why Apple is successful.

Well duh thats obivous. They had a pent up demand for larger screens just like the current situation with OLED. Its quite a clever tactic really. We get a few rocky quarters where we get boring upgrades while demand is being suprressed,than do worthwhile upgrades,charge 1K and break records.
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The iPhone 1 was not the first at having a larger screen if screen size is the only criteria

Right. The 4, 4s, 5 and 5s was boring.

 

[bushman4]

stupid question to ask

 

[Radon87000]

that is not an accurate statement. I'll dig up YouTube videos showing lag on the s8.

Those videos show Touchwiz lagging ,not Android. Android does not lag on new devices. Just look at the Pixel running Android O

You can also return devices because you believe they have a problem. Similar to claiming people not noticing microstutters but claiming all phones have them.

My problems have photographic evidence which no one can deny if you visited my thread.

You may have not exchanged an oled device but there are those who did.

So basically,in a nutshell,both technologies have their fair share of problems except OLED has lesser problems

You are putting a square in a circle. Larger phones came into creation after the iPhone 1.

Purely based on screen criteria,Samsung F700 came before iPhone 1

The pent up demand was for the 6, of which Sony started down that path. Personally I'm waiting for 7s.

Not Sony,Samsung with the Note series. Sony hasn't done anything revolutionary on Android apart from waterproofing

What, like copy and paste?

https://www.imore.com/history-iphone-original

Tell me a phone which matches all the criteria listed in the article. I'll wait.

No, it's not there.

Hangouts has been phased out.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/06/hangouts-api-shut-down/

I'm guessing, but it's probably an accurate guess based on android market share for non-flagships.

OLED screen is 50% of the functionality for me. Surprisingly,the ProMotion screen on iPad Pro would be around 45%. I never thought ProMotion was a game changing experience but wow its good. Now my iPhone 7 feels very stuttery after using iOS on the new Pro 12.9. Scrolling is smoothness taken to a whole new level

Right. The 4, 4s, 5 and 5s was boring.

Did they all use the same shell?

 

[Gathomblipoob]

I never thought ProMotion was a game changing experience but wow its good. Now my iPhone 7 feels very stuttery after using iOS on the new Pro 12.9

I really need to check that out. It sounds great.

 

[Radon87000]

I really need to check that out. It sounds great.

I am a vocal critic of Apple's sub par LCD displays on iPhone but the Pro 12.9 is an exception. The screen is unreal and packed with tech. TrueTone and that 120hz screen is a gamechanger. In fact it would be very difficult for me if I were asked to choose between a ProMotion display and a Galaxy S8 OLED. I am surprised Apple didn't bring it to the iPhone till now.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

I am a vocal critic of Apple's sub par LCD displays on iPhone but the Pro 12.9 is an exception. The screen is unreal and packed with tech. TrueTone and that 120hz screen is a gamechanger. In fact it would be very difficult for me if I were asked to choose between a ProMotion display and a Galaxy S8 OLED. I am surprised Apple didn't bring it to the iPhone till now.

I'll have to run by a local Apple store and check it out.