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Should the game be played?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 75.0%
  • No

    Votes: 11 19.6%
  • No Opinion / Don't Know

    Votes: 3 5.4%

  • Total voters
    56
I can't believe anyone would willingly sit outside for four hours in -50 temps to watch a football game. There's just no fun to be had.

I kind of agree with the OP…requiring workers to be out in that is pretty insane. And I'm also confused as to why a stadium in the north wouldn't be domed. There's "perfect playing conditions" and then there's just dangerous stupidity.

Oh you've clearly never been to Lambo during super cold weather.

You tailgate, chug hard booze, cook on the grill, bundle up, party, put on your cheese head, and cheer and scream the whole time so its never cold ;) And you bundle up and your fine.

I have a good amount of family in Wisconsin, and I think people who don't live up here do not understand that its just another day in the life of the deep winter, people up there know how to deal with cold, and don't complain about it like wussies.

-40? Bring it on. Been there and done that. It was great.

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I'm all for it. Let the savages on the field bash each others' skulls in until they're concussed or fall to frostbite. I especially look forward to some "manly" linemen going sleeveless and then having to lose an arm.

There's only so much you can do to protect someone from their own stupidity, but revenues > people, always. So let 'em freeze.

People have been going to football games, and people have been playing football in Greenbay professional since 1921 in sub zero temperatures, and SOMEHOW no ones arm ever fell off :rolleyes:

There's a reason the stadium is called the frozen tundra.

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Extreme cold is also life threatening.

Sub zero and nearly sub zero games have been played in green bay going on nearly 100 years now, and no one has ever been killed because of it. People in Wisconsin know how to deal with cold. It's part of every day life.

Visting my Grandparents from the age of 12 to this day, every winter we go out onto Lake Winnebago, totally frozen over, -15 or worse, wind chill, all that fun stuff. And we took out snow machines, went ice fishing, and bundled up.

Yet no one died!!!

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Oh. Were you outside for four straight hours?

I used to stay out all day in Wisconsin when I visit the family in sub zero temps, in fact I still do. Still alive!

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Four hours ? Ha ! you should try being a Packers fan and visit the parking lot 4 hours before the game. Then spend another four inside the stadium. Then another two in the parking lot. But then again they do have cars that can keep them warm.
Who needs to sit in a car or RV at Lambo? You got the grills and beer to keep ya warm ;)

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Exposure is the key word there, just don't have any exposed skin and you are fine.

This is what Im on about, games have been played in sub zero weather up there for nearly 100 years without any accidents.

Its just all the wussies that can't handle a little cold, and go into a starbucks for some overpriced coffee to warm up ;)

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And the NFL has to take responsibility for intentionally placing people's health and well-being in jeopardy by exposing them to these extreme conditions.

Have not heard any NFL players, or fans, or owners, or anyone really complain about the cold, besides some people who don't live in Green Bay who can't handle 50 degrees without a coat.

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So no more football in Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota for the next 2 years. Cancel the Superbowl this year.

Yep! Someone might get a boo boo! Waaaaaaaaa!

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What's your damage son? I'm from Wisconsin. I've gone hunting in the northern woods with my dad for 8 hours at a time in sub-zero temps without a problem. You just dress for it and deal with it. Get over yourself. These guys can handle it.

Not from Wisconsin, but spent lots of Winters there throughout my life. Bring on the cold, bring out the snow machine, grab the saw, grab some poles, lets go ice fishing ;)

Its called gloves and a coat. Or just build a fire out on the lake, Warm :D

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Seattle does but the NFL says Seahawks stadium only holds 65,000.

Too bad. I'd love to see a SB there.

Shame.

I would love to see the SB in Pittsburgh as well, awesome stadium with an awesome backdrop of a great looking city.

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There are plenty of people who will be at that game because their work requires it. They won't be there voluntarily.

One more note for anybody who says, "Well the Ice Bowl was cold too ..."

The Ice Bowl happened over 50 years ago. The Freeze Bowl in Cincinnati happened over 30 years ago. Since those bygone days, much has changed in the NFL in regards to looking out for player's safety ... and much more will be done in the future. There is simply no good reason to put the players, the fans or those working in support of the game at risk because of this extreme weather event.

Why not? This weather is not so different from Typical weather in Wisconsin.

Should we move the population out of those states because someone might get cold?

Also, I've been to Lambo many times, theres tons of heated areas and closed off sections, the benchs are warmed as well, as are most of the walkways.

I just don't understand why people WHO DON"T LIVE THERE. Think they know everything about an Area like Wisconsin in the winter.

I grew up in the deep south, I used to go play sports, BBQ, run, walk, and exist in 100+ weather with lots of humidty, and yet somehow! I lived! And then lived through the extreme cold in Wisconsin every winter, somehow! I lived!

Clearly someone should have told me to stay inside.

Should Alaskan bush pilots be grounded because they don't run on paved runways and often fly in the middle of storms? Because someone who's never been there says its to unsafe?
 
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There are plenty of people who will be at that game because their work requires it. They won't be there voluntarily.

I don't care what the NFL does, but will you be moving to cancel all crime and fires so the cops and firefighters don't have to be outside too? I guess we will be canceling military maneuvers, garbage pick up, street workers, mail delivery, power line repairs, and all construction work. Heck, lets just send a cavalry of U-Hauls to the northern states and take all the residents south until spring. :D
 
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I expect the man boobed fans being shirtless painted green and yellow. The combination of blubber, beer, and adrenaline gets them through four quarters.

On a cold day at Lambo? Not so much, people stay bundled up.

Prius drivers might not understand that people live in these conditions every single day up in that area.

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I don't care what the NFL does, but will you be moving to cancel all crime and fires so the cops and firefighters don't have to be outside too? I guess we will be canceling military maneuvers, garbage pick up, street workers, mail delivery, power line repairs, and all construction work. Heck, lets just send a cavalry of U-Hauls to the northern states and take all the residents south until spring. :D

We should! Someone might get cold! Or get a boo boo in the ice!
 
-40? Bring it on. Been there and done that. It was great.

Its just all the wussies that can't handle a little cold, and go into a starbucks for some overpriced coffee to warm up ;)

Have not heard any NFL players, or fans, or owners, or anyone really complain about the cold, besides some people who don't live in Green Bay who can't handle 50 degrees without a coat.

Yep! Someone might get a boo boo! Waaaaaaaaa!

Now you're starting to sound like some guys I used to work with who, when offered a ride to avoid walking a mile and a half home in a thunderstorm, instead turned it down and said "We're men, we can handle it". That's not impressive. That's just stupid. I don't mind some adverse conditions, but I won't purposely go into it, when there's a perfectly viable alternative, just to prove my manhood.
 
Now you're starting to sound like some guys I used to work with who, when offered a ride to avoid walking a mile and a half home in a thunderstorm, instead turned it down and said "We're men, we can handle it". That's not impressive. That's just stupid. I don't mind some adverse conditions, but I won't purposely go into it, when there's a perfectly viable alternative, just to prove my manhood.

It has nothing to do with " we're men "

It has everything to do with the fact that people handle these kinds of conditions in Wisconsin during the deep winter all the time, it's nothing they are not used to and deal with in daily life.

So I don't understand why people who do not live in Wisconsin are telling people who do live in Wisconsin how to live and what to do.

Some people don't seem to want to go, so they offered hand warmers, and now they want to go.

I assume this " unsafe " call is being made by cubical people who've never set foot in Wisconsin
 
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Looks like the No Fun Police have shown up outside of PRSI.

No fun police ;) People sitting in boring cubicles, sealed in their own bubble of comfort. Who feel they need to tell other people they've never met living in places they've never been how to live,.:mad:

" Waaaa! Ive never been to Wisconsin! Ive never met anyone from Wisconsin! I don't know what its like in Wisconsin! I don't know how people live in Wisconsin! But I read something in a book! I need to tell these people who have been living in Wisconsin for generations how to stay safe! Waaa! What if they get a runny nose!? Waaaa! I love Starbucks! "
 
I don't care what the NFL does, but will you be moving to cancel all crime and fires so the cops and firefighters don't have to be outside too?

I think there's a pretty clear line between emergency services and sports/entertainment.
 
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Maybe we should put safety warnings and handrails on everything too? Maybe we should but steps and guide rails up to the top of El Capitan so people don't get hurt. Maybe we should all wear parachutes if we work in tall buildings or fly an airplane. Maybe we should all wear padding and helmets when we drive our cars.

Just stop with your idiotic BS, get out of your sheltered room and live a little.
 
So I don't understand why people who do not live in Wisconsin are telling people who do live in Wisconsin how to live and what to do.

Whoa. Now there's a nice straw man.

Somehow you leapt from a national sport to your state's autonomy.

When it's cold and you make a stretch like that, I worry for your hamstrings.
 
I personally know one of the men who will be that fan tomorrow.

When I was growing up, I remember seeing GB so much that I literally thought that if you go shirtless to a football game, it was green and yellow that you put on your skin.

I wonder if they have the same genes are the polar bear club dudes.:p
 
Whoa. Now there's a nice straw man.

Somehow you leapt from a national sport to your state's autonomy.

When it's cold and you make a stretch like that, I worry for your hamstrings.

I worry about your obsession with telling other people what they should do.
 
Whoa. Now there's a nice straw man.

Somehow you leapt from a national sport to your state's autonomy.

When it's cold and you make a stretch like that, I worry for your hamstrings.

I don't live in Wisconsin, I just have lots of family in Wisconsin and have spent lots of time in Wisconsin.

It's not a straw man at all, this game is being played by people who live in Wisconsin, the stadium is staffed by people who live in Wisconsin, and the fans are from Wisconsin.

The game is Sold out, so the fans are not complaining, the players are not complaining, the staff is not complaining, no one is complaining.

Everyone wants to go out and do it, games have been played in this kind of weather before with no injuries or loss of life. And added to the fact the majority of people at this game LIVE in this kind of weather all the time, it doesn't bother them.

What is the point of not playing because someone might get hurt? even though there is a remote possibility?

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Hopefully I'm at the Packer game in Lambeau tomorrow. Bring on the cold!!

Did it every season growing up and visiting family. And I wish I could be there tomorrow. Who needs warm air when you have brats and beer?

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Don't get lost in machismo.

Even if you don't consider your own health, try to consider the health of others.

I don't think health is such a big thing to care about here, as stated before. The people going to this game live in this stuff all the time in their day to day life, whats the difference between a football game and repairing power lines outside? Or being a police officer on foot patrol?

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I don't understand why all northern stadiums aren't domed yet. Look at the Louisiana Superdome... It's in the south and it is domed so all games can be played out regardless of snow.

I don't know. Maybe the populations of those states actually live in that bad weather all the time and don't care about the " horrible " conditions.

I've been to tons of games on the Frozen Tundra growing up, and again whenever I get to see the family, 20+ years of going, never had an issue.
 
I don't live in Wisconsin, I just have lots of family in Wisconsin and have spent lots of time in Wisconsin.

It's not a straw man at all, this game is being played by people who live in Wisconsin, the stadium is staffed by people who live in Wisconsin, and the fans are from Wisconsin.

The game is Sold out, so the fans are not complaining, the players are not complaining, the staff is not complaining, no one is complaining.

Everyone wants to go out and do it, games have been played in this kind of weather before with no injuries or loss of life. And added to the fact the majority of people at this game LIVE in this kind of weather all the time, it doesn't bother them. Perhaps the OP is just a ***** who lives in Florida or Hawaii and has never experienced a real winter.

What is the point of not playing because someone might get hurt? even though there is a remote possibility?

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Did it every season growing up and visiting family. And I wish I could be there tomorrow. Who needs warm air when you have brats and beer?

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I don't think health is such a big thing to care about here, as stated before. The people going to this game live in this stuff all the time in their day to day life, whats the difference between a football game and repairing power lines outside? Or being a police officer on foot patrol?

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I don't know. Maybe the populations of those states actually live in that bad weather all the time and don't care about the " horrible " conditions.

I've been to tons of games on the Frozen Tundra growing up, and again whenever I get to see the family, 20+ years of going, never had an issue.

Amen fellow Cheesehead. If I can survive 8-9 hours of -30 degrees in the woods hunting Bambi as a 12 year old, surely these professional athletes with the stadium supplying advanced heating fans can survive. Sounds like the OP is a Niners fan who is used to ***** weather and is scared of facing Rodgers tomorrow.

GO PACK GO!!!
 
What was the point in creating this poll?

This seems like such a stupid question to ask.

Doming all stadiums, for football, baseball, etc, is just a stupid thing to consider. I was over in Japan for a month and went to a baseball game over there. All there baseball stadiums are domed and while fun was NOTHING like going to a ballgame at Jacobs (now Progressive) Field in Cleveland Ohio. When we hosted exchange students and took them to the Tigers ballpark the look on there face was priceless. They don't get to see open air stadiums which is a huge shame as the game is just not the same inside a dome.

I have spent long period of time outside in the UP of Michigan hunting, fishing, and trail riding on snow mobiles. Those were all day affairs and short of being a little cold when we got done after 12 hours outside we all survived.


The fans bought tickets and if they feel they can handle the weather then let them go. Don't try and play safety cop because you think they can't handle it.
 
Amen fellow Cheesehead. If I can survive 8-9 hours of -30 degrees in the woods hunting Bambi as a 12 year old, surely these professional athletes with the stadium supplying advanced heating fans can survive. Sounds like the OP is a Niners fan who is used to ***** weather and is scared of facing Rodgers tomorrow.

GO PACK GO!!!

Heck yes, visiting family every winter we went ice fishing in Osk Kosh on Lake Winnebago all the time, all day, did it as long as I can remeber, and somehow! We survived!

The only difference is when your little you have hot chocolate, and when you get older you switch to Hot Apple Cider spiked with Vodka.

Love the cold, bring it on.

I was born and raised in Atlanta however , and went Braves games all the time in 90-100 degree while pounding down dogs from the Varsity. We cant have baseball games in Atlanta! Its so hot! Ahhh! We should dome the stadium and make sure every single person gets their own personal AC unit! Its the only way!

Somehow....I lived though hot... and cold!!! Whoa!!!

Thats the problem with West Coast Types, they don't know what weather is. These are the same types who would complain that the BBQ joint I worked at in Tallahassee when I went to FSU was " unsafe " because we had a open firebox wood smoker. Oh no! Something interesting might happen!
 
Perfect playing conditions are no fun! A Superbowl in Green Bay would be unreal.

Ain't that truth...


I agree. It should be a requirement, especially for cities that historically can suffer from these types of extremes.

But it still doesn't really solve the problem when the weather is as cold as what is being predicted for Sunday. People are still going to venture out to attend the game. Parking lot attendants, security and other support personnel will still be exposed outside the stadium.

I hope for the best. The league—that is too stubborn to postpone or move the game—does not need to compound its mistake with people being harmed by the cold.

This isn't about sports at this point. It's a health and safety issue.


Agreed as well.

All that snow in Louisiana? Jiminy Cricket.

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HaHa! Yes your sarcasm is so refreshing.
 
The op must be heartened since the temperature in Green Bay is 6 F (while it's a -12.5 F here).
Balmy temperature to go with the balmy thread. :D
 
The bottom line is personal responsibility - yes an an alien term for this culture and generation. If you think its too cold, then don't go out.

I personally wouldn't be caught dead sitting outside in temps like that, but that's just me. I personally wouldn't be caught dead paying hundreds of dollars to go to a football game when I can enjoy it in the comfort of my house - even if its warm out :)
 
And the NFL has to take responsibility for intentionally placing people's health and well-being in jeopardy by exposing them to these extreme conditions.

Nobody is FORCING the fans to arrive at the game, they can make their own decision regarding their "health and safety" and choose not to show up (doubt they will fail to show). If they don't dress properly well, you can't fix stupid. There are heaters on the sidelines for the players, not to mention those jackets they will all certainly be draped in when not on the field. People going to a Green Bay game in Dec/Jan certainly know what they're getting in for weather-wise.

While extreme, the cold is NOTHING like lightning. As someone else said, lightning is unpredictable. While there may be a storm in the area when the fans leave home to go to the game, they storm may not show lightning potential until they get to the stadium, but it's not like the fans can do anything to protect themselves from it, while they CAN protect themselves from the cold. You'll see LOTS of people in the stands wearing these. Those are VERY warm, I have one.
 
Haven't proposed that at all.

If anything, I'd require that all of those cities plan to construct domed stadiums when its time to replace their current ones.



Again. Not true.

There are alternatives that haven't been taken.

For instance, the Green Bay game could have been switched to today where temperatures are in the 20s-30s.

Or the game location could have been switched to the Vikings Stadium in Minneapolis where the game could be played indoors.



I have never said that, "nothing is being done to control the hazards."

I imagine that a great deal is being done in an attempt to control the hazards.



I am home. I realize I am in the minority. And I do realize that many of you don't give a ****.

That is quite apparent.

They're currently in the process of tearing that stadium down to replace it. Guess what? The Vikings will be PLAYING OUTSIDE until the new stadium is ready.

Replace the non-domed cold-weather stadiums with domes when they next need replacing? Gillette opened in 2000, won't be replaced for at least 30 years yet. Met Life opened in 2010, has close to 40 years left (at least). Soldier Field (Chicago) was re-opened after complete renovation/overhaul in 2003, that won't be due for replacement/overhaul for 30-40 years. Sports Authority Field (Denver) opened in 2001, that has considerable time before replacement. What do you propose those teams do if your proposed dome requirement for cold-weather cities SOMEHOW is taken up by the NFL? There's considerable time before many of the cold-weather stadiums are due for replacement.
 
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