No shop carries everything in real life either. There are plenty of decisions made on what goes on the shelves and what doesn’t.
I don’t see why this should be handled differently for digital.
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Sideloading Apps Would 'Break' the Security and Privacy of iPhone, Says Tim Cook
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No shop carries everything in real life either. There are plenty of decisions made on what goes on the shelves and what doesn’t.
I don’t see why this should be handled differently for digital.
You could make the same argument for Macs. Oh wait, you couldn't because it's a load of @#$&!.
And it is a good reason, they are a for profit corporation and are committed to provide best ROI for shareholders."side loader geeks" are most likely no where near any kind of majority. I would say that the vast majority of iPhone/iOS users like the device/ecosysem just like it is. Just use, it just works.I'm not giving reasons to the Pros and Cons, I'm stating that IMO, it's the core reason. Simple as that
Just listened to the interview - I feel around 15 minutes in Cook became a little more relaxed, and a little more honest with his answers. Props to Kara for pushing and pushing on certain topics! - Really enjoyed it!
That's the epitome of hypocrisy. Collecting data whether 1st party or 3rd party is not privacy. This is why the "privacy" rhetoric falls apart and is a spin.
If one doesn't like what Target is selling go to Walmart. If one doesn't like the products in Target, vote with your dollars at Walmart. If one doesn't like the apps in the ios store, go to android.
How is it different?
Exactly.
And if Apple themselves can't stop scam apps or lookalike apps... do we expect these "alternative" app stores to?
Are we really gonna trust "Jim's App Store" to protect us? Are we excited to give our credit card number to some unknown store?
Look... I don't know what will happen to Apple in the future. They seem to be getting sued on all sides because of their app store policies.
But I, personally, won't be buying apps from some alternative store.
Reminds me of that saying "the devil you know..."
It’s the purpose for which the data is collected that is the problem, not the collection itself.
And...if they were to lose all of the customers that want to sideload,I bet that would be less than .5% of their customers...maybe
Not legally.
The problem is, that would give alt developers access to the baseband. I don't know if that is legal. I know it is a serious terrorist threat. One application written by bad actors with access to the baseband would be able to trash the entire cell network during or just before a terrorist attack. If nothing else, every single phone with that app could be forced to dial 911 30 times a second, then hang up.
I have one in the family.
When you connect with low level access to the cell networks, you gain the ability to take out a significant portion of the worlds communications infrastructure. This is not a good thing. Even if Apple is forced to open their platform to some level or another, low level calls must remain blocked.
Because their customers want devices with better security than android phones?
This is a flat out lie, but sure, keep peddling on the ignorance of your average user, Tim.
Yeah I say let the market decide what they want, iOS or android.
So as long as I collect your personal information and not be malicious about it, then your secrets are private and safe. I will also tell my friend your details and mention to them also not be malicious as well. So then your data should be private with them too.
I'm being pedantic about it because the details matter a lot in this situation and why I am hesitant to believe the their marketing spin regarding privacy here.
The ability to sideload apps compromises security on a mac even if you don’t sideload. So if apple lets you do it on your iphone, it compromises security of my iphone. I don’t want to be affected by what you “decide.” Maybe being “a grown-up” means that if one really wants the ability to sideload apps one buys an Android phone, and leaves iphone and its superior security model to those who don’t?
I’m happy for some data to be collected as long as it is SOLELY for the benefit of making the product better for me (I.e., making the features I use now or in the future, better). I am absolutely DEAD AGAINST my data being collected to build advertising profiles or to sell targeted advertising.
But it’s not a lie. It’s math. Any path to allow apps to run is an attack vector. So each path that is added multiplies the likelihood of attack.
Let me be really clear. Who cares what Facebook thinks. They, and other data collectors, built entire businesses by turning US into their products without our knowledge more or less, their AI prays on us, manipulates us, damaging democracies and doing other damage to our society. I hope their businesses collapse
Launch .5 already
Launch .5 already
No, people aren't idiots.
Whether a person is tech-savvy or not, she deserves to know what's going on, and have some choice in her apps are coming from. It isn't just a developer problem; it's a user education problem.
Even if I don't know/care initially where a certain app came from, I'd rather know than not know, and once I know, I think the experience can be much better than the App Store. I'm not just talking about payment systems (needing to go through my Apple ID, paying extra for apps because developers are bundling in the Apple tax) or sideloading otherwise-censored apps. You also have local vendors that are much better at search-indexing in their native languages, game stores that are better at marketing/showcasing their content because they're curated by game developers, a medical app store that's more trustworthy -- and doesn't need a one-size-fits-all Apple guidance or "don't take our medical advice, call 911" type of disclaimer -- because it's curated by a trusted medical company, etc. etc. and a whole slew of other choices that can give the user a better experience.
TLDR: People are knowledgeable and they deserve to be able to exercise that. This argument that users wouldn't know any better and would get their phones into a hot mess of sideloaded apps is dumbing people down way too much. Treat people like they are intelligent beings and they will respond as such. If they don't, then use the UI (and other malware/silent detection built into the OS) to guide them.
As others have pointed out, macOS users are doing just fine. Humans didn't just become dumber because they started using the iPhone.
I guess it depends of what kind of privacy you're talking about.
At minimum... Apple knows your AppleID (email address) and your phone number if you use an iPhone. Is that acceptable?
Your cell phone carrier knows every phone call you make. And their towers can triangulate your location in every area you visit.
Your ISP knows every website you visit.
There are traffic cameras that can scan every license plate.
The list goes on and on...
At least Apple tries to keep your personal data from falling into the wrong hands. But there is no such thing as privacy if you use technology in the developed world.
They didn’t become dumber but iOS was the perfect opportunity to get rid of the downsides of the macOS and windows model and replace it with something better.
For some we might as well just submit to being surveilled all the time and just live with it, regardless of the downsides.I guess it depends of what kind of privacy you're talking about.
At minimum... Apple knows your AppleID (email address) and your phone number if you use an iPhone. Is that acceptable?
Your cell phone carrier knows every phone call you make. And their towers can triangulate your location in every area you visit.
Your ISP knows every website you visit.
There are traffic cameras that can scan every license plate.
The list goes on and on...
At least Apple tries to keep your personal data from falling into the wrong hands. But there is no such thing as privacy if you use technology in the developed world.
So Microsoft should get to decide what software you’re allowed to install? The only 2 ISPs in your town get to block all web traffic that’s critical of the Republican Party? That’s an... interesting take.
I used to wonder how ideologies like fascism and communism swept over nations and destroyed them so quickly. Turns out the answer is pretty simple: large swaths of the population really like authoritarianism.
Correct, there has always been an element of dumbness, since technology entered the home. I wonder if Windows would have had such a bad rep for viruses and malware, had the internet and a vessel to install software through a secure store had been available back in the day.