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Siri AI Will Have a Waitlist When iOS 27 Launches

Rafagon said:
So we don't even get past the waitlist as a thank you for using the betas and helping Apple clean up the software? Wow.
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Why on earth did you assume that you would have to sign up on a wait list again? Also, are you using a beta to test it or because you want something for yourself for doing it?
 
syklee26 said:
oh because memory price is too high and government wouldn't allow Apple to use CXMI waaaaaaaahhhhhhh

Thank god Tim Cook era is coming to an end. Investors are king, customers are dirts.
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Why lie about such well-reported things? CXMI declined to provide a price break. The government never even got to the table. And yes, investors ARE king BY LAW because it’s THEIR money that is being risked in the first place. If you want things to be different, pony up your own money and then convince everyone else to make less in their retirement funds because you want cheap stuff.
 
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So much drama over this. I'm ok with them slowly rolling it out to avoid network and compute congestion. I can wait ☺️. Besides, I live in Europe, so there's that 😂
 
Meh. After using the developer beta for as long as it’s been out, Siri AI isn’t something I think is going to be any good on day one, anyway. If I need to wait again, nbd
 
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diblasio said:
New siri is awful. Apple should have just rolled this out two years ago without any fanfare because now expectations are high and this product does NOT deliver. It's the least capable chatbot on the market today.
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It works, but it is indeed slower than any current cloud-based AI models. Siri AI is different in the depth of its integration into the system and user data, as no other AI agents can crawl through your entire image library and email and message history. This should not be underestimated and I think it will get better over time.
 
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For me, Siri AI is a mix. Compared to the current version, it makes a step forward in bringing the dedicated chatbot app, but fails at simple tasks like playing a playlist or calling a contact. I was hoping that it would be getting better as the beta cycle progresses, but as of now (DB7/PB5) it is still struggling. Let’s see how it goes with the public release.
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It's struggling to call a contact?

Really?

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Tip: I would suggest that if you want to minimize your time on the waitlist, join the public beta now.

The risks are low, because the current beta is an "a" build, which means that almost all of the bugs have been ironed out and a final release is likely imminent. And odds are, beta users will continue to retain access to Siri AI; the delay adding users after production rollout will likely be linked to Apple upscaling the virtual server farm in order to meet demand.

I was showing Siri AI to my youngest son the other day, and he asked if he could get it. I suggested that he could sign up for the public beta. He did so and was running iOS 27 less than an hour later, so I showed him where to go to enable Siri AI and get added to the waitlist.

The next day, he showed me that Siri AI was already fully functional on his iPhone.

(Your mileage may vary, of course.)
 
johnsawyercjs said:
You are correct sir. I just installed iOS 27 beta 7, and at Settings > Siri, at the very bottom, is a button labeled with red text saying "Turn Off Siri", but that's just for Siri. There's no longer a single option for turning off Apple Intelligence, which of course is the more overall, pervasive assistant. Instead, Apple has replaced it with a series of finer-grained options in the Settings app. In beta 7 (and one or two prior 27 betas?), weirdly (or stupidly) enough, several of them are at Settings > Screen Time > Content & Privacy Restrictions, where you'll see an entry labeled "Siri", and when you tap on that, the pane that's displayed is actually titled "Siri Restrictions", and this pane displays a section titled "Allowed Siri Version", under which are options labeled "Siri AI (Beta)", "Siri Classic", "Don't Allow Siri". Further down in the Siri Restrictions pane is an option labeled "Writing Assistance", whose choices are "Blocked" and "Allowed". There are other toggles and options related to other Apple Intelligence features here and there in the Settings app, but no longer a single toggle to turn them all off at once, so if someone doesn't want to see the Apple Assistant prompts across the board, they'll have to track down these options individually and set them to "Blocked" or whatever it's labeled as for each of these options.

In other words, while Apple has given users finer-grained options, it's also made the Siri and Apple Intelligence on/off settings much more confusing for the average user.
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Dude, I can’t thank you enough for this. Siri AI is frustratingly slow IMO (not super slow, but slow enough to make mundane tasks like setting timers annoying).
 
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dss33k said:
I’m on iOS 27 beta and am I the only one who doesn’t really find Siri much more capable than it was before? It has its own app but there are almost no proactive features that Apple advertised in their original reveal. It still fails often enough that I don’t want to use it and look like an idiot.
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I was riding the Siri hate bandwagon for as long as the next person, but that criticism is no longer accurate. Siri is a completely diffrent product now and it's actually useful for the first time in its history (thanks Google). If you're not seeing that, you're still stuck on the Siri hate trend, or you haven't been using it correctly.
 
I wonder if this is a true waitlist or if it's more accurately an "opt-in". When I first tried it in the beta there was no "waiting" on the waitlist.
 
After how badly Apple has botched Siri for the last several years, and the class action brought against them for false advertising with Siri - really? A waitlist? C'mon guys... what's happening?
 
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jbc25 said:
I wonder if this is a true waitlist or if it's more accurately an "opt-in". ...
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Likely, both.

jbc25 said:
... When I first tried it in the beta there was no "waiting" on the waitlist.
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Timing is everything; you basically got lucky. When I activated Siri AI in iOS 27 dev beta 1, just a few days after it first dropped, I must have hit it at the worst possible moment, because it was nearly a week before it finally came alive on my iPhone. I'm by no means the only one with such a story, of course; the article even comments on it.
 
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DanteHicks79 said:
After how badly Apple has botched Siri for the last several years, and the class action brought against them for false advertising with Siri - really?
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It's situations like this that have eroded the trust of many.

Yet there are those who blindly trust and completely believe the narrative surrounding the word (privacy) oft repeated by the Cupertino Company.

What if ... at some point in the future, like with so many other companies, we learn of a "breach"?

Those living in denial and the ones "with nothing to hide" suddenly are faced with a new reality.

Hopefully this will never happen, but healthy skepticism generally serves one well. Buyer beware as they say.
DanteHicks79 said:
A waitlist? C'mon guys... what's happening?
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A waitlist is an age old marketing trick to create an image of desirability and scarcity. Nothing new here.
 
zenmacx said:
A waitlist is an age old marketing trick to create an image of desirability and scarcity. Nothing new here.
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I can certainly see why you might come to that conclusion... but in this case, I expect it's more about cost management. They're basically spinning up additional virtual infrastructure to support new users at a highly controlled rate, with corporate bean counters avidly looking on every step of the way, so that they know exactly how much money they're tossing into the bonfire in service of AI slop.
 
zarmanto said:
I can certainly see why you might come to that conclusion... but in this case, I expect it's more about cost management. They're basically spinning up additional virtual infrastructure to support new users at a highly controlled rate, with corporate bean counters avidly looking on every step of the way, so that they know exactly how much money they're tossing into the bonfire in service of AI slop.
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I agree I can imagine servers being inundated if they don't have a wait list. I was also wait listed for SIRI when I downloaded the beta and received capability in a few days. No big deal. It might be longer when it launches but I can understand why.
 
I was genuinely VERY impressed with Siri AI in beta. Exceptional ability to go deep in personal context to find information—e.g., “What’s my kid’s student ID no.” had it go into the attachments of emails where the ID was not in the email, subject, or attachment name—just the actual file content—and successfully pull it, and then validate that by also seeing a photo of my kid wearing their ID badge in my photos and extracting the ID no. from that image.

Hopefully being on it in Beta gets a quick shot in without significant wait at the actual release.
 
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