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Um, what?

Siri shortcuts are open to third party apps. An example I did myself below. About the only problem with them is they aren’t parameterized (hopefully that’s coming).

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Interesting!

I guess the problem is low uptake from developers. I wish this operated more like actions in Photoshop - recording a set of actions the user takes and replays them upon voice command.
 
Interesting!

I guess the problem is low uptake from developers. I wish this operated more like actions in Photoshop - recording a set of actions the user takes and replays them upon voice command.

Yep, that would make sense for simple flows, for sure. I’m guessing they will do that at some point.

Developer uptake is high, because it’s pretty much for free as long as they supported handoff and certain other features already.

Go to settings | Siri & search | all shortcuts

You should see a list of shortcuts that you can assign to a Siri shortcut.
 
Indeed. It routinely ignores the limits i set for my daughter, randomly changes the limits, and then reports that she’s spent only 35 minutes of screen time of which 1.25 hours was Roblox. The only thing that seems to work is the time-of-day limits.
...and, my time-of-day limit doesn't work. It won't stop until the kid quits the app. Also, why can't you limit specific apps? Instead, it's categories. What's in the category? Who knows! All it tells you is how many are in the category. I had such high hopes and it doesn't work.
 
Siri shortcuts: will we be able to trigger Automator stuff or is this the sign that’s going?

This can be done already: open system preferences and the accessibility tab. Select the Dictation item in the list on the left and click "Dictation Commands...". From there you can set up key phrases that run any workflow you like.
Granted, this is somewhat limited as it doesn't allow any options in terms of input parameters, but it can be very useful as a makeshift solution.
 
Yikes. This thread is an embarrassment. There is plenty to criticize about Apple. Siri Shortcuts coming to macOS is… not one of those things.

I hope they have a good story on how this will, in the long run, replace Automator.

That story is simple. AppKit is deprecated in 10 years, and we are done.
 
To run Mac OS you need a Mac. Does Apple still make Macs?

The top of the line Mac Pro is 6 years old with 4+ year old hardware. The Macbook Pro has keys that stick. The Mac mini is MIA. The iMacs have 5200RPM hard drives that I had in my Mac 10 years ago and replaced with SSDs. Shouldn't all Mac come standard with SSDs in 2019?. I am still using my 2008 Mac Pro and am waiting for a compelling upgrade.

How does the worlds most valuable company forget to do what brought them to the dance?
I guess the heroin of iPhone profit has killed the golden Apple of innovation. "Can't innovate my ass" is right.

It’s called a “laptop”. I haven’t bought a desktop in *years* ... and neither have most people. That’s why they are so far down on the totem pole ...
 
shortcuts is useless? LOL.
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That's how it even works on iOS. if you block instagram for example, you wont be able to access instagram.com...
Do your research ma boi

Says “do your research”

Doesn’t read whole thread before replying.

Also it’s not well documented that this is how it works. And as I said in another reply... the granular controls should be way more obvious and in the same place as the “category” controls, not an extra step in a completely different sub menu.
 
People rarely consider the excellent procrastination potential of Shortcuts. I’ve spent hours with it and the only genuinely useful shortcuts I have are for zipping/unzipping files. Just think of all the work I might have been forced to do instead.

Yes, an archiving feature should be standard in the Share menu (especially with the Files app), but that’s not the point. I have managed to avoid a great deal of actual work, and that’s the real success story here.
 
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Never understood Shortcuts, I am not a programmer so it made no sense to me and didn’t bother to check it out ever again
Shortcuts are designed so people can accomplish tasks without being a programmer, that's who they are targeted at. If people still can't figure them-out then Apple has failed with it's goal.
 
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I remember when this used to be a place for Apple fans. Now it's a place for Apple critics.
I want Apple to do better than it has for a long time.

For me the decline started with OS X Lion and iMovie 08.

I'm primarily a Mac user more than iPhone, and the software quality has just been really poor. Remember when iWork and iLife got better each year? They had leapfrogged Microsoft with Keynote, and then the last update I tried was a disaster--the one where they tried to make it compatible with the iOS version by crippling the Mac version. Even Spotlight used to work better. QuickTime was more powerful. MacOS has bad networking reliability and just so many bugs.

And now there's not a single Mac laptop I could recommend to a friend/family member nor one I'd want to buy myself.
 
I remember when this used to be a place for Apple fans. Now it's a place for Apple critics.

These news threads tend to bring out the trolls. Discussions in the user created threads in the forums tend to be more even handed (not “pro-Apple” mind you: even handed)
 
Screen time will be useful on the Mac, not really bothered with shortcuts much yet, I'll probably have a play with that.

The OS is largely fine, I'm more interested in them keeping the hardware on a respectable update cadence and putting a serviceable keyboard on the laptops. Those are the biggest issues with the Mac in my opinion.
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Soon enough, I expect the only difference between macOS and iOS to be floating windows and the menu bar. I'd never go back to macOS myself, but I don't think this is going to sit well with the legacy users on this site.

Wont happen anytime soon. There is much more between iOS and macOS than a menu bar and floating windows.
 
Shortcuts are designed so people can accomplish tasks without being a programmer, that's who they are targeted at. If people still can't figure them-out then Apple has failed with it's goal.

Agree with this 100%. Apple touted Shortcuts on stage at WWDC for an extended amount of time and then proceeded to throw it out into the wild with very little in the way of evangelization, support, guidance in the way of tutorials and a user-friendly help system. The Workflow help text, which was largely adopted whole cloth by Apple was very good, but not easily searchable. It was much better suited for the power users who were the primary users of Workflow.

My guess is that the original plan was to release Shortcuts with IOS 13, but that the rapid adoption of Alexa and Google Home/Assistant forced Apple to rush it out the door to try to give Siri enough new features so they could claim parity on some level.

I have higher hopes for Shortcuts 3.0 which should sport much more polish, along with MacOS support.
 
Agree with this 100%. Apple touted Shortcuts on stage at WWDC for an extended amount of time and then proceeded to throw it out into the wild with very little in the way of evangelization, support, guidance in the way of tutorials and a user-friendly help system. The Workflow help text, which was largely adopted whole cloth by Apple was very good, but not easily searchable. It was much better suited for the power users who were the primary users of Workflow.

My guess is that the original plan was to release Shortcuts with IOS 13, but that the rapid adoption of Alexa and Google Home/Assistant forced Apple to rush it out the door to try to give Siri enough new features so they could claim parity on some level.

I have higher hopes for Shortcuts 3.0 which should sport much more polish, along with MacOS support.

Yep. I've heard very little about shortcuts really and therefore haven't really given it much attention, some of that could be because I am a programmer and have used automator on the Mac for years.

Honestly though I just think this is further evidence that modern Apple doesn't really understand the Mac, I just don't think this constant dumbing down of the Mac is really necessary.
 
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Actually they are 5400 RPM hard drives. I can't defend it, but average Joe might not care as much as you do.

Apple are working on a new Mac Pro and I'm sure you know that. They admitted to ****ing up, so let's not go there until they've shown us what they're working on.

Yes, all Macs should have SSDs as standard, but I don't want to pay an extra £500 for more storage capacity so I'd rather take a Fusion Drive if they can't offer at least 512 GB of SSD capacity without affecting their normal profit margins. And that's what I did when I bought my 27-inch iMac.
They’ve been working on the mac pro for ages now, so I’d say they deserve the “praise” on that matter.
 
These news threads tend to bring out the trolls. Discussions in the user created threads in the forums tend to be more even handed (not “pro-Apple” mind you: even handed)
Well, I'm one of those "trolls". I own 5 apple device (all aged at this point), and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what I'm going to replace them with in the future because staying in the product ecosystem is simply no longer a good option. Believe it or not, some (if not most) of the people you call "trolls" are dissatisfied former fans.
 
The Mac mini is MIA.

What? They just updated it late last year, no?


The iMacs have 5200RPM hard drives that I had in my Mac 10 years ago and replaced with SSDs.

Yes. This bit is unforgivable. It makes no sense because magnetic hard drives are prone to failure when filled (as most users will do) and almost impossible to replace without significant risk thanks to the iMac's design.
 
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