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Size comparison of my 16” pro vs. 14”
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How did you get it so early?! Thank you for sharingLooks great
Haha! I wish it was here already. Unfortunately, I'm in the November 10th-17th boat for it being delivered to me.
I think this is true for myself certainly. When I am in hardcore work mode I have a dual monitor setup, external keyboard and mouse and the laptop is in clamshell mode.
On the sofa the 16" was really clunky and I couldn't sit how I wanted and it didn't make that much difference having 16 vs 13 because I was still always full screen.
Size, weight and portability is probably more important for me in a laptop than screen size and I use that portability to work in the evenings in the living room or get a break from the office for a change of scenery. Most of my productive time is at my desk with the laptop behaving like a glorified desktop.
Well we’re all quite a few years older now and the muscles are no longer bulging as much.
How did you get it so early?! Thank you for sharing
He didn't get it early. Apple has been selling Augmented Reality tech for a few years now, he is just benefitting from that tech today.
4k Is where it's at for a lean and affordable setup. The pixel density holds up, colorists beware ; to my understanding 4k is the wild west of pannels.
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Yes, these 24" LG 4K displays are a great option too. Nowhere to be found at where I live at the moment though. Have found one second hand recently but close to the price of 27" 5K one...
Thank you for the photos!
EDIT: or these are 27" displays that you have?
Mine are 27'' though, gave up on trying to get the 24'' and treated myself to a few nights out with the difference
.The pixel density is allright still (I sit at around 67cm of them) with the extra size helping for legibility.
Not entirely topical but I was worried going from a 15" rMBP to a 13" M1 MBA and although it looked tiny at first I really wouldn't go back in size. My 15" rMBP looks massive now!
I see. So from these pics of yours 4k on 27" screen clearly works out just fine on MacOS scaling wise. This is definitely good to know since so far I came across very mixed info about that.?Mine are 27'' though, gave up on trying to get the 24'' and treated myself to a few nights out with the difference
The pixel density is allright still (I sit at around 67cm of them) with the extra size helping for legibility.
And pixel density for sure is good enough on this size still.
My only gripe is color accuracy, but it is a non-factor in my use-case.
If you have any subsequent questions, feel free to fire them my way.
Well I've been lifting & am in the best shape of my life right now. So that can't be it!
The way I was looking at it before & during the announcement...
I'm not into the larger iPhone Pro Max. Too big for me. I've always chosen the regular size iPhone Pro.
If I bought an iPad Pro, it'd be the 11" over the 12.9".
Now that the MacBook Pros have the same chips in either size, I wondered why am I buying the largest MacBook Pro? I don't need the larger display. But now that some time has passed I wonder if I'll miss the larger screen. It's crazy how the mind plays tricks on you.
I bought my Intel 16" MacBook Pro almost immediately when the store came back online in November 2019. I was coming from a late 2013 15" MacBook Pro so I was due for an upgrade at the time. Prior to that, I had an early 2009 17" MacBook Pro. At first the 15.4" experience felt diminutive. But I adjusted pretty quickly. Meanwhile, in 2015, my office switched to early 2015 13" MacBook Pros. I adjusted to that as well. It was the best of both worlds.
I'm using my office experience as a basis for getting the 14". I was just as productive on the 13" at work as was on the 15.4" at home, albeit the 13" MBP was noticeably slower in Final Cut. We would hook up our 13" MacBook Pros to 27" monitors when we were at our desks.
While the new 14" is a 1st generation Apple product, now that it's on Apple silicon, it'll likely get closer to annual updates or iPad Pro like updates (every 18 or so months). In late 2022, we'll probably be talking about our orders for 14" & 16" MacBook Pros with M2 Pro & M2 Max, HDMI 2.1, an SD card slot with UHD-III, etc. Any teething issues will probably get worked out. So I was figuring why blow a load on it when I might upgrade more regularly?
If it weren't for the fact that the 16" gets toasty oftentimes doing menial things I probably would have stayed put & waited out the initial M1 Pro/Max hoopla.
My mate had me totally convinced that he'd got his hands on a PS5 a few days before release with a screen grab of the box on his table. Turned out it was AR ?♂️ He was chuckling about that for ages the bastard lol
in my case when I'm at home or the office, I plug into displays. I'm so excited the smaller MBP finnally has some horsepowerWhile I obviously see the benefits of the 14", I can't see myself downsizing from a 16" to a 14". Since the 16" has slim bezels and moderate volume (vs a gaming laptop for instance) I found it not so heavy to carry.
I would pick 14" only if I use if i worked extensively on the go/outside which is not my case.
Anyway thanks for sharing !
Oh great, so now I need to buy an expensive external display to add to my $3,500 laptop order.
Actually that's a good idea, although if I want to use TouchID I won't be able to without spending even more money on a new TouchID external keyboard to replace my current bluetooth keyboard. ?. And since I use a long password, I'll definitely need that since I don't always wear my Apple Watch at home.
This is going to be one pricey upgrade.
if you guys are thinking of traveling wiht these, you are kidding yourselves. I traveled with the 12 inch 2lb MacBook for 3 years and it fit perfectly on the airplane tray table. the other sizes wouldnt fit with eh screen tilted properly. Also I enjoyed putting int into a small thin backpack or man purse. It was a 1 hand grab and carry when I was typing reports at convention events. That is a travel Mac.
If the ppi is higher than 14 is probably just as good as 16 for around the house. I put the 16" on an adjustable stand to eye level and use a full size keyboard. my view area is just right and I dont have to move my head around to look at side by side documents, which causes fatigue. Yea I have a 32" and 27" 4k monitors but find that I dont use them much because of lower ppi and the need to move my head around to read docs. Big monitors are great for creative work like video, photos, where you need all the tools spread out and comparison images. I dont know how you guys use multiple monitors without fatigue.
I wish these MacBooks can angle the screen further back so that I can sit it almost vertical on a stand and move it closer to my face to get a bugger screen effect. the higher ppi is better than a big screen in my opinion.
BTW im not the fat guy in the pic. Im 175 lb and I work out. just for your reference and my flight description use. 3.5lb or 4.5 lb doesnt really matter for home use I guess. it will both get uncomfortable in bed or on lap. only 2 lb will do for travel. Personally im trying to learn how to use the iPad mini for travel. for those of you with the romantic fantasy of occasionally working out of a coffee shop, I find it distracting and uncomfortable. if you indeed travel often and need a laptop, ideally you want the upcoming MacBook (hopefully 12.9" 2 LB) or you are kidding yourself. im torn between upcoming MacBook and bigger nicer screen in my face at home.
If the ppi is higher than 14 is probably just as good as 16 for around the house. I put the 16" on an adjustable stand to eye level and use a full size keyboard. my view area is just right and I dont have to move my head around to look at side by side documents, which causes fatigue. Yea I have a 32" and 27" 4k monitors but find that I dont use them much because of lower ppi and the need to move my head around to read docs. Big monitors are great for creative work like video, photos, where you need all the tools spread out and comparison images. I dont know how you guys use multiple monitors without fatigue.
I wish these MacBooks can angle the screen further back so that I can sit it almost vertical on a stand and move it closer to my face to get a bugger screen effect. the higher ppi is better than a big screen in my opinion.
BTW im not the fat guy in the pic. Im 175 lb and I work out. just for your reference and my flight description use. 3.5lb or 4.5 lb doesnt really matter for home use I guess. it will both get uncomfortable in bed or on lap. only 2 lb will do for travel. Personally im trying to learn how to use the iPad mini for travel. for those of you with the romantic fantasy of occasionally working out of a coffee shop, I find it distracting and uncomfortable. if you indeed travel often and need a laptop, ideally you want the upcoming MacBook (hopefully 12.9" 2 LB) or you are kidding yourself. im torn between upcoming MacBook and bigger nicer screen in my face at home.
I have a 24" display at home and most of the time the 14" will be hooked up to that, but when I travel the 14" is much better.
"Anything expensive in life is worth paying for. Something.. something, spend more money."Oh great, so now I need to buy an expensive external display to add to my $3,500 laptop order.
Actually that's a good idea, although if I want to use TouchID I won't be able to without spending even more money on a new TouchID external keyboard to replace my current bluetooth keyboard. ?. And since I use a long password, I'll definitely need that since I don't always wear my Apple Watch at home.
This is going to be one pricey upgrade.
-Tim Cook
I traveled with a 17" Powerbook/MacBook Pro + a 15" IBM/Lenovo/HP at the same time for well over a decade. Traveling with one 16" will be a cake walk.
I tried to decide which one to order and in the end, just ordered both. Getting 14" one on Tuesday and 16" in mid-November. If I realize that 14" is comfortable enough I'll just cancel my order for 16". If 14" will be restricting then I'll simply return 14" after I get 16". I'm on a 13" MBA currently and I really like the portability, but when I'm at my desk I wish I had a bigger screen. 1" is actually quite a significant difference, more than 2 cm, plus the resolution is higher. So probably 14" is going to be that perfect middle ground between more screen and portability for me.
I wouldn't recommend QHD displays. You can't get proper scaling other than native, but in this case, everything is super small and hard to see. High-res scaling doesn't work in the current Mac OS for QHD screens. I tried to find the solution for my MBA M1, found a lot of discussions on the Apple forum itself, no resolution. I then checked it on my wife's MBA Intel and the same thing, while I know for sure that in the past it wasn't a problem. It looks like Apple doesn't consider low-res displays as a priority. All their built-in displays are retina/4K, or 5k+, so they don't care about QHD that is not as popular as 1080p or 4k
Oh great, so now I need to buy an expensive external display to add to my $3,500 laptop order.
Actually that's a good idea, although if I want to use TouchID I won't be able to without spending even more money on a new TouchID external keyboard to replace my current bluetooth keyboard. ?. And since I use a long password, I'll definitely need that since I don't always wear my Apple Watch at home.
This is going to be one pricey upgrade.
I have a notebook on a stand next to the monitor (on the left notebook, on the right external display) -> TouchId is perfectly reachable this way so no need in new keyboards at all.
This is actually one of the benefits of using two displays, rather than placing notebook close in vertical position on some stand for example. I also found that I could place a 13” one next to a 24”-27” display on basically any desk (including times when studio monitors are used), but 15”-16” sometimes was pushing it (in case if speakers are used around).
Use notebook screen for reference materials mostly, sometimes task list or password manager.
If you work at least 10 hours a week on your notebook - investing in a good external monitor will make sense for sure. I still have 27” Apple Thunderbolt Display which was bought ages ago (using it in the office now).
Bought LG 5K when it was discounted and it is like one of the best IT investments together with full spec late 2013 MacBook Pro 15” (with only Iris Pro 5200 igpu and no nvidia), which my wife is using still to this day. If the hardware is great -> you will enjoy it for many years to come and that expensive original purchase will make more sense each year.
Something is telling me that these new MacBooks are also a great buy, so I went crazy on the specs and ordered 14” with M1 Pro 10-16 / 32 GB and 4(!) TB SSD. I have preordered one with 2TB first, but than figured that having 2TB of extra super fast internal SSD would allow me to basically throw absolutely anything at this MacBook, keep high res music collection on internal disk, will potentially increase life span of SSD and will just make the IT geek / admin part of me feel that in no way I have “cheaped out” with my choice.
Upgrading from a full spec 13” 2016 Macbook Pro (dual core Intel) which I use with Blackmagic eGPU (it just cannot handle 5K without it).
Sold few refernce DAPs that I had for some years and don’t use them much, will sell 13” and Blackmagic… I am looking to add basically only $500 or so from a family budget. Else it all is “an exchange” of great “toys”.
So yes - here is my upgrade story?
Interesting. Native scaling on 27” WQHD works fine for me, but I see your point for sure. Quite a few of my relatives / friends / colleagues 55+ years old simply prefer bigger displays text / scaling since it is more comfortable. Bigger resolution helps with sharpness big time for sure.
I just cannot understand how some companies release / sell 27” full hd displays to this day. I have tried such display many years ago and it was a horrible blurry experience.
*Will definitely test various 4K options when I get a chance to see how they work with scaling etc (in 24-28 inches).