SJ and Ryan Tate go at it via email at 2AM!

[BrettJDeriso]

Spot On!

You know, I actually kind of agree with Steve.

The iPhone/iPad have two platforms: native and the web.

Apple controls the native stuff. It's in the AppStore and everything there is (depending on your parental controls) relatively clean. That's it's job. It's there to distribute functional apps, not to serve up every piece of content for the platform.

Apple doesn't control the web, and the web technologies have really been advancing. Google goes to the web when they can't get things approved in the AppStore; so should the porn industry. People accept that the web is unregulated.

I don't want the AppStore overrun with porn. Yes, it's popular, but I don't want it to get in the way of functional apps and make it a burden to use.

Couldn't agree more. All these developers and ranting bozos like Ryan whining about not being able to get their content past Apple's morality filter have grossly misinterpreted Apple's intent by cutting them in on their business model. It's like screaming at the local parishioner because he won't let you post an atheist screed in the Sunday church bulletin. Jobs is 100% right on this one: if you don't like our platform restrictions, don't code for it. No one's putting a gun to anyone's head.

If people want porn so bad (and in all honesty, I consume more than my fair share of it), they can get it elsewhere. Like on the web, in Safari. Jobs is under no obligation to put his company's stamp of approval on porn -or ANYTHING they disagree with, for that matter.

It's Steve's garden, and he does a fine job plucking the weeds.

 

[Prof.]

Anyone know the definition of "Gawk"?

From: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gawk

Main Entry: gawk
Pronunciation: \ˈgȯk\
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from English dial. gawk left-handed
Date: 1757
: a clumsy stupid person : lout​

I have nothing to add.

Not what I got:

 

[Mazda 3s]

For those of you opposed to Apple censoring the App Store and thus blocking porn, do you also have Netflix memberships?

You can't get porn through Netflix... where's the outrage?

 

[MUrhino]

I don't want porn in the app store just as I don't want strip clubs at Disneyland.

Let kids be kids.

In this day and age I think a good percentage of people have no taste or sense of class.... They make things that make money and disregard anything else. They push their freedoms to their max because they can, not because they should. Sadder still is that these people don't grow out of it.

I applaud apple deciding to create a safe place. I'm glad someone cares enough to put aside financial gain (porn would ludicrous amounts of money for the app store) for the luxury of security.

Hear, hear!

 

[Lesser Evets]

This blogger sounds like a total moron.

Why is Jobs centering on that clown?

"Revolutions are about freedom" : the assumption of an utter asshat. Revolutions are about rearranging power. Duh. A 2 year old can figure it out. Otherwise, how's that Soviet revolution doing for the Russians?

 

[RoboCop001]

Not what I got:

Either way it's not a good thing.

 

[myca]

For those of you opposed to Apple censoring the App Store and thus blocking porn, do you also have Netflix memberships?

You can't get porn through Netflix... where's the outrage?

Rabble, rabble, rabble...

I guess that means no porn on the 360 or Wii, which gives your point more punch, where are the people moaning about the serious and detrimental lack of porn on todays gaming consoles

Oh wait they're all on their iphones having a w*nk to...

If you want porn on your iPhone/iPad, you can go to Safari for:

Spankwire
Xshare
*******
*******

And it's flippin' FREE AND it's properly formatted for the iPhone's screen.

I honestly don't understand all the bitching.

 

[steviem]

What porn apps do you have on your Computer? Please tell me, because, I don't have any.

The way I see it is, we've never needed Porn applications on our computers to see a little porn, so why the hell would we need it on a phone?

If the porn sites use w3c standards, there'll be no problem for people consuming their products on whatever device they like. Although, I hear it's frowned upon to watch porn at work, on the train, or if you fly domestically in the US, joining the mile high club on your own...

Re the apps - I wish Apple would purge a few of the fart apps, they're just straight up annoying!

 

[parapup]

Aren't there parental controls on the iPod/iPad/iPhone which could be used to lock it down? Doesn't the App Store already allow classifying Apps as 17+ which would be disallowed when parental controls were in force?

Couldn't Apple just make the parental controls better and impossible to hack so that the people who wanted to give iDevices to children can still be not worried? And adults who wanted to buy or publish p0rn on App Store could still do it? Couldn't the kids still go to p0rn websites formatted for the iDevice? But hey that's all naive talk - it was never about anything else but control.

Steve has this habit of defending whatever crap he is cooking up using equally crappy arguments.

So one should just say as a CEO I am doing what I think is in best interest of my Corporation and that would end there. But instead Jobs goes into this "Think of the Children" drivel to defend whatever he has done. Then he says it's about Freedom. Then a mail or two below he says it's NOT about Freedom.

Then he ostensibly defends not using Intermediate Layers in the name of sub standard UIs while his company does exactly that on Windows. So seemingly Apple has business needs to use layers but other companies cannot do that.

Then he denies police knocking on Jason Chen's door. Then he does the worst thing a CEO can ever do - he asks his customers to get off his lawn if they don't like it. Sure Steve, I am already off your walled lawn.

So those who don't like it really have only one choice - move off old Steve's lawn and let him and his followers do what Steve wants. If enough people voted with their wallet - we would not need to have this discussion.

 

[cmaier]

Apple has every right to choose not to hose porn in their store. No one complains when Blockbuster or Wal-Mart enforces a similar policy. Apple does nothing to BLOCK porn- they just won't put it in the store, it is freely on the Internet. What's the issue?

From a corporate image perspective, selling porn in your store is a disaster. And Jobs has solid personal reasons not to on top of it.

Well, actually they do complain. I agree with then rest of your post.

 

[Stridder44]

Another example of the quality “journalists” at Gawker.

Seriously. These guys are as bad as Fox news.

 

[bubba*nix]

Is this really news that anyone else gives a **** about? This Ryan dude seems like a douche.

 

[hssky97]

Anyone know the definition of "Gawk"?

From: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gawk

Main Entry: gawk
Pronunciation: \ˈgȯk\
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from English dial. gawk left-handed
Date: 1757
: a clumsy stupid person : lout​

I have nothing to add.

Lol

 

[Gorilla Power]

Hey you cruel people leave Ryan alone ! He's a "journalist" !!

 

[Black Macbook]

Ryan Tate = ignorant, rude kid and (un)professional whiner who was totally owned by Steve Jobs.

From his twitter page -

I write for Gawker, live in Berkeley and perpetually wish I was in France.

That definitely sounds like a moonbat and loser that I would never, ever wish to meet or ever engage in any conversation about any subject whatsoever, a total waste of time.

 

[trisino]

Well, what about violence?

All the approval processes imply a certain degree of censorship; therefore, freedom is already gone...

As per Mr. Jobs' concerns about pornography, I have one question: why a virtual murder is better than a virtual sexual intercourse? Why a virtual gun is less harmful than a virtual bra? Why sex is so dangerous in many people's minds, whereas soldiers, weapons and violence are not even questioned?

Of course, Mr. Jobs is free to have his opinion and to enforce it in his company, but I believe he should avoid selling his company and himself as the last paladins of freedom.

Bye!

 

[skullhammer]

Hypocrisy?

Here are some excerpts from Gawker's comment policy:

"We only approve the comments we love - so make sure you're adding something of quality to the post. If we approve your comment, your username and password will be activated and you'll be able to login and comment freely from then on (or at least until you get banned)."

"We value intelligent contributions, good grammar, and not feeding the trolls. "

"5. Can I be banned from commenting?

Yes, if your comments are excessively self-promotional, obnoxious, or even worse, boring. There will be no warning, and no appeal."

Here is an excerpt from my attempt to comment:

"Even after you click the above link, your comment will not display on the site until your comment is approved. We will notify you if your comment is approved."

I hope these policies are "tongue in cheek" as they sound a lot like the iTunes App Store.

Has anyone seen any porn on the Gawker web site? I am sure it would generate a lot more hits on their web site and generate more revenue?

 

[mixel]

I find all this Gawker idiocy frustrating as there are some genuinely good, respectable bloggers on the Gawker network and as a group they're really not doing each other favours. :/

Why did he even post this, seriously? It doesn't reflect well on him at all. I can totally understand people "boycotting" Gawker for all their recent craziness but entire branches of Gawker aren't like this at all.

It's a real shame. I hope if Gawker does eventually meet its demise due to the recent legal stuff- or something else - that the *good* bloggers find new homes and aren't too screwed by it all.

Nothing that drastic is likely to happen anyway, but its still weird.

 

[addicted44]

This is how I feel as well, and it all comes back to the Flash discussion... if Microsoft was to say that anyone on Windows wasn't allowed to use Firefox or Safari a stink would be storming and Microsoft would get so many names and horrible comments thrown at them but Apple just don't care...

I only see the iPad as the bad move in technology, when I first saw it I thought it was April fools.

You guys are so narrow-minded.

I don't see anybody complaining about the choice of movies they get on airplanes. Or the fact that Ford restricts them only to MS SYnc on their cars.

Fact is, that for the majority of people who don't go around posting on computer forums, the computer is just another appliance, like the washing machine, or their refrigerator. The reason is not because they are braindead, or lazy, but just like you have no clue what OS should be running your vehicle's engine, they don't have the technical expertise, or the time, to worry about this stuff. They just want something that works well, allowing to get on with what real work they actually do. Like making movies, or designing a bridge, or creating the next great microprocessor, even.

For some reason computer users insist on elevating what is essentially a tool for the majority of people in the world, into a religion, which they need "freedom of". No, for most people, the computer is just another really really powerful hammer. And that is how it should be.

Until the government starts mandating we can only use iPads, this is a non-issue.

 

[nickweston]

if you don't like it....

like I say, all you Apple bashers...go buy something else, there are tons of products out there!
But please lose your fascination with what you *hate*

Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our time.

 

[Rot'nApple]

Another example of the quality “journalists” at Gawker.

I guess that makes him ready to go Pro and ready for the Big Times! New York Times that is.

Revolution is about Freedom?! Must have been educated in an American public school and went to Harvard or Columbia School of Journalism or something similar.

How's that Cuban Revolution of 1952 of doing? For that matter, the Iranian Revolution of 1979?

 

[Arran]

Not what I got:

Different dictionary? Not very flattering, nevertheless.

Makes you wonder why they chose that name. Does it define their readership? Themselves? Or was it just a random, "Hey! That sounds kinda cool", pick?

 

[NDPTAL85]

I think most of the complaints is around porn, not in the sense that it's not accessible, but more in the sense that it's not accessible to the masses on the i/phone/pad/etc because flash is not available. Most of the interactive content for porn is done in flash and unless these porn sites decide to employ expensive x-code developers, I don't think these devices will have mainstream porn on them any time soon.

It just goes to show that "freedom" of choice is really a bitch about why flash is not available so I can surf porn on my ipad.

Porn sites have been reformatted for the iPhone for YEARS now. Years. They probably whipped up iPad formatted verions of their sites 2 weeks before it was released for sale. Just google for "iPhone Porn" sites and you'll see them pop up like crazy.

 

[raybo]

Million

A million iPads in less than a month.

How many people read that Ryan Tate Gawker crap? Does he want to curl up with his porn? Try a netbook.

What a nut. What a poser. What a maroon.

Ray

 

[kenypowa]

Steve Jobs is the Thomas Edison of our time.

Love it when a CEO personally responds to email of customers.
Hate it when he runs the company like Stalin and Hitler.

But that's why he is such a successful visionary, and that's also why Apple's computer market share will never surpass MS and why iPhone's market share will lag behind Android's.