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Steve Jobs has every right to define and try to control the fate of his company's brand. As others have pointed out, porn could rapidly become very popular on the iPhone OS platform if allowed into the app store. Apple has never tried to control access to porn on macs. I doubt that they care who uses porn or whatever on their macs (or iPhones outside of the context of the app store). Nobody tracks the fact that people are using their macs to view porn. However, the popularity and availability of highly popular porn apps would be there for all the world to see. This on highly portable devices that Apple wants to be family and school friendly. Porn on the Android platform is not strongly linked to a single company. Porn on an iPhone OS-based device would be linked to Apple. Imagine the outcry from assorted groups and some media outlets as the porn keeps pushing the envelope. Apple will never risk their brand's reputation to satisfy some notion of a right to freedom.
This is not about freedom in the absolute sense. It's about choice. Apple presents one choice. It's not the only choice.

I think a lot of people are confusing politics and consumerism here. Steve Jobs isn't trying to run the United States, he's trying to produce a product that he and his team thinks works well, and he's sticking to his guns. I really respect that about him. I think that's one of the reasons Apple is so popular and he is such a popular and successful CEO.
 
This is hilarious, but I do agree with Steve. If people want Porn they can go to a PC, if they need coffee they go to Starbucks, if they need quickly get directions to nearest Best Buy with Starbucks they use iPhone.

And if they want a quality GPS device to get them there, they'll just use their Droid phone.
 
Then don't pay for it, buy something else. I mean, if Flash is so important to you, how stupid do you have to be to buy a product that is famously incapable of running it?

Shhh, not so loud!

If you keep talking sense like that, you might break their delusion that they are bound and shackled by the fascists at Apple ;)
 
This is hilarious, but I do agree with Steve. If people want Porn they can go to a PC, if they need coffee they go to Starbucks, if they need quickly get directions to nearest Best Buy with Starbucks they use iPhone.

I am offended by the fact that you seem to think that only "PC" users view Porn:mad: I request that you correct this statement as there are many users in this thread that are Mac users and have acknowledged their use of porn sites. A computer user is a computer user, saying that if you want to view porn and should get a PC is very insulting:mad::mad::mad:
 
This doesn't even make sense. Apple couldn't just own Gawker because of some iPhone scandal. The people in this thread are incredible! I haven't seen something like this before, and I've been around here for a few years.

There will undoubtedly be a civil suit in federal district court for the northern district of California: apple v. Gawker. Apple has put blogs out of business before, and the potential monetary damages here are quite large.
 
What about some humility?

“By the way, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?”

This remark by Mr Jobs is futile.

One is not a lesser person just because he’s not as successful as Mr Jobs is (though “success” can be a relative concept)

I love Apple products, I own many, and to a certain extent I admire you, Mr Jobs, but please do not forget that humility is the mark of truly great people (it’s no coincidence it’s so hard to attain...)
 
“By the way, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?”

This remark by Mr Jobs is futile.

One is not a lesser person just because he’s not as successful as Mr Jobs is (though “success” can be a relative concept)

I love Apple products, I own many, and to a certain extent I admire you, Mr Jobs, but please do not forget that humility is the mark of truly great people (it’s no coincidence it’s so hard to attain...)

This is 100% incorrect. People exist on a scale. Some are better than others.
 
Gawker

Wow! Gawker? What is Gawker? A gossip site? A site that promotes the sick world wide obsession with celebrity? Spears? Lohans? Kardashians? Were not the Kardashians space creatures on Deep Space Nine?

Such a near porn site as Gawker, should fall on their well padded knees that ANYONE with the artistic vision, force of personality and leadership of SJ would even devote one pixel to their existence.

I mean NPR, sure. Gawker? Come on.
 
Why exactly have you not visited their site since the lost iPhone debacle? Are you upset that they presented the new iPhone before Steve got to?
Nope, I could care less about the release of the info. It's the way it was handled and their poor attempt to get page views by showing at least 5 different, yet related, stories about the whole thing all over Gizmodo... for like a week straight. The way they outed this guy that lost the phone just further illustrates that they're only interested in causing a debate which will keep the reader there. I won't buy into it. I can get my info from more credible and less illiterate bloggers like this latest Tate moron...
 
There will undoubtedly be a civil suit in federal district court for the northern district of California: apple v. Gawker. Apple has put blogs out of business before, and the potential monetary damages here are quite large.

You get it on the nose.

Apple can just put their money into this and break Gawker with out much effort at all.
 
There will undoubtedly be a civil suit in federal district court for the northern district of California: apple v. Gawker. Apple has put blogs out of business before, and the potential monetary damages here are quite large.

Gawker is a little too big to be put out of business over something as trivial as Apple losing track of one of their phones and Giz reporting on it.

No. People don't want to be forced to make ridiculous decisions at every turn though. A lot of people appreciate the care and consideration Apple puts into making their devices and the decisions they make. This freedom of choice mantra where everything has to be open and available to you is very juvenile and something people get a better perspective on as they get older and hopefully wiser.

It's never wise to grow complacent and let other people make decisions for you.
 
People can get their porn fix in safari. What's the problem if Apple shows a little class and doesn't allow porn apps? Choice is still there.

This is ridiculous. Apple can make whatever they want, and people can buy whatever they want. If porn and flash is a sticking point, then buy a different device.
 
Ryan Tate is clearly a moron.

"Revolutions are about freedom." Ummmm, no. Ugh. Sadly, the internet empowers lazy, uneducated writers... :(
 
"And you might care about porn when you have kids..."
An assumption made to belittle Ryan.

"Gosh, why are you so bitter [...]?"
Steve Jobs, being a professional gentleman (as if that's a title) :rolleyes:.

"You are so misinformed. [...] You're believing erroneous blogger reports."
Belittling the enemy. Ryan is likely very informed on what happened with Jason Chen.

But here's the real kicker. This is how gentlemanly and professional Steve Jobs is:
"By the way, what have you done that's so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others [sic] work and belittle their motives?"

Well....What has Ryan done in life besides using a persona email under conditions were he lied about his personage to use for his personal gain? I don't think that comment was unwarranted at all after Jobs had sat there being cussed out by this jerk over several emails. My comment stands, he was a perfect gentleman and Ryan Tate is a nothing and will be remembered as a nothing in history and Jobs an innovative creator who's passion got him in hot water a time or two.
 
Well....What has Ryan done in life besides using a persona email under conditions were he lied about his personage to use for his personal gain? I don't think that comment was unwarranted at all after Jobs had sat there being cussed out by this jerk over several emails. My comment stands, he was a perfect gentleman and Ryan Tate is a nothing and will be remembered as a nothing in history and Jobs an innovative creator who's passion got him in hot water a time or two.

What creative things have you contributed? Pot, kettle, black.
 
Sorry if I sound prudish but back in the day I would never write multiple e-mails to anyone that I did not know (much less the CEO of a major corporation) with the word f**k strewn throughout. I don't care if your like or don't like Steve Jobs, swearing in that way is crude, unprofessional, and idiotic. I credit Steve Jobs for engaging this primate at all.

And while I'm being prudish, no, I don't believe we need pornographic iPad or iPod apps distributed through the App store. The day that happens, I'll terminate my Apple Store account. Not only is it not necessary, it is inappropriate for a company like Apple to engage in that kind of business at all. And by the way, porn is not about freedom, the porn industry is infamous for the exploitation of everyone involved. Your freedom to view their naked bodies comes at a much greater expense to the women involved than you are willing to admit.

Again thank you!
 
Excuse me but however anybody puts it, it's still control. People keep saying that 'don't buy it if you want Flash', now if I opened a club saying nobody but whites are allowed in would people say 'just go elsewhere' NO, it's controlling and me stopping people who want to come into the club.

I'm sick of these idiotic moves that have been allowed recently... first the internet piracy crack down and now this... why should I be told what I can do and where I can do it.

No Flash is only affecting it's users... Flash is very powerful, and users should have a flippin choice what they want to use... the app store is another thing. Also you have to pay for a license to develop software for the Mac? I heard this and if it's true that's ridiculous and Mac is much more money hungry than Microsoft... people need to stop bumlicking Apple.
 
Excuse me but however anybody puts it, it's still control. People keep saying that 'don't buy it if you want Flash', now if I opened a club saying nobody but whites are allowed in would people say 'just go elsewhere' NO, it's controlling and me stopping people who want to come into the club.

I'm sick of this idiotic moves that have been allowed recently... first the internet piracy crack down and now this... why should I be told what I can do and where I can do it.

No Flash is only affecting it's users... Flash is very powerful, and users should have a flippin choice what they want to use... the app store is another thing. Also you have to pay for a license to develop software for the Mac? I heard this and if it's true that's ridiculous and Mac is much more money hungry than Microsoft... people need to stop bumlicking Apple.

Are you seriously comparing the control of a product to racism? Really? Oh and if you think a licensed product that's made to work on Windows doesn't result in Microsoft getting a fee from the devs like Apple does, you're in complete denial. Learn the business before you assume Apple is doing something that's so off the wall...
 
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Gawker is fast becoming an industry joke!
 
I really am, I see it this serious, honestly.

This stuff is getting out of hand now, why should I buy hardware that I own and be told what I can view and when I can view it.

So, basically you're pissed off at almost every piece of consumer electronics.
 
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